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You bastard you made me spit out my Bengali Tea. 🤣Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
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Originally Posted by smashup
AJ's manager is white. So is his promoter. Joshua has made a lot of white ppl rich. Black ppl don't own Wembley or any stadiums were he fights. Black ppl dont own stub hub or any ticket outlets.
And how can Joshua tell blk ppl not to spend money with whites.
IN THE UK WHITES OWN EVERYTHING (pretty much)
They own the clothes on AJs bk. They own the clothes on my bk. That's how racism wrks. It creates a dependency on the ppl your sh*tying on.
All AJ is saying is that most racism to blk ppl is economic so he was encouraging blk economic empowerment which I agree with.
They won't let blacks succeed financially.
The great Marcus Garvey is proof of that.
I try not to get involved in horse shit race baiting threads like this , but who is “they”?Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
In Sport, the most successful and rich Sportsmen are Black! And deservedly so. Look at Mayweather, Joshua, Hamilton , Tiger, Jordan, And so many others both now and in the past. The list goes on and on and on!
Why? Because they are the fucking best. Could be luck, coincidence, superior genetics, better attitude and mental strength ?? who the fuck knows.
But what I do know is that some of the biggest icons and financially successful people in Sporting history are Black.
Naturally, a lot of white people have got rich hanging onto their shirt tails, but how are we gonna stop that?
So if “they won’t let blacks succeed financially”, then “they” are doing a pretty lousy job, don’t you think? :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Spicoli
Had to see what all the uproar was about so I clicked on the link. Found a very short video clip so had to rely on the written account.
So.... what's with all the anger being directed at AJ? Flipping the script and making suppositions about what if Fury said something similar are moot. It wasn't the umpteenth a white man was murdered by a black cop without anything having been done about it. So yeah... a little frustration is understandable.
Or is it that we can accept a black athlete talking about his left jab, but he's not allowed to speak his mind on social issues?
Just trying to get a handle on things here.
"They" is the God damned Build-a-Bears!!!! They lure in young children, they sell them a husk of nothing and then things get fucking serious. They're harvesting Teddy Bear organs and selling them right in the fucking stores!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraI try not to get involved in horse shit race baiting threads like this , but who is “they”?Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
In Sport, the most successful and rich Sportsmen are Black! And deservedly so. Look at Mayweather, Joshua, Hamilton , Tiger, Jordan, And so many others both now and in the past. The list goes on and on and on!
Why? Because they are the fucking best. Could be luck, coincidence, superior genetics, better attitude and mental strength ?? who the fuck knows.
But what I do know is that some of the biggest icons and financially successful people in Sporting history are Black.
Naturally, a lot of white people have got rich hanging onto their shirt tails, but how are we gonna stop that?
So if “they won’t let blacks succeed financially”, then “they” are doing a pretty lousy job, don’t you think? :rolleyes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAIf-T5mQdA
Better than you ? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzYou can barely write English Al and have never respected anyone unless they indulge you in your fake patriotic bollocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlVictim ? you think anything Joshua says has any relevance to me ?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzStop playing the victim card. Pull up your socks like a big boy and enough of your blatant bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlI think his comments were racist, a white person would never be able to say do not shop in black shops only use white owned shops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Joshua is a boxer thats it, i certainly have gone from fan to not a fan.
But the ironic thing about Joshua's comments is that personally I couldn't care less about anything he says, however is Tyson Fury said the same in reverse he and his family would already be in a police cell.
Double standards for sure from the liberal left wing media and PC system, I mean the British Bullshit Corporation for all their politial race bating , couldnt even use the correct photo on their report of George Floyd's funeral.
Your guys have the blood of 60,000 British Citizens on their hands ushered in by a right wing BBC and you have the absolute front to blather "what about Labour?"
At least you can drop the fake not a racist bullshit. The fact you still insist on calling Ali 'Clay' spreaks volumes.
https://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfo...tid=5375&stc=1
The person who talks bullshit is the one who despite the crushing loss of the left , still tell everyone he is right.
You are the only victim who constantly bleats and goes on public demonstrations, why because you always have something to bleat about.
This entire protest is a non peaceful one , the type you condemn when its comes to the right, so basically Beanz fuck off you cunt .
My opinion is my opinion , I'm entitled to it as everyone else is theirs.
Also yes i will be cheering anyone who fights Joshua from now on , he is a cunt.
P.S I wouldn't surprise anyone here if you and the rest of your cronies went one this march.
60,000 British Citizens dead many of them veterans and at least 20,000 of them due to a delay in lockdown caused by Johnson a law breaking racist thug you championed. And from you silence.
So fuck off with your smug I'm better than these other idiots crap. You ain't mate. No better than me, no better than Joshua, no better than Denilson.
For one you cunt , my parents who you have branded racist because they vote Tory are not remotely racist.
One thing my parents did teach me is not to take tattooed scrounging left wing protesting ponces seriously.
Not sure what polish gypsys are taught but there is an example of how I was brought up.
So I will leave you with your usual left wing why go to work when you can be a protesting with the violent masses.
For the record we all know your not a scrounger , or from polish gypsy stock, or a protestor, i say this before you jump to conclusions.
ps. how did the house sale to fund your holiday go ? in a council flat yet ?
:fyou:
these public figures are put in these positions for a reason. why would anyone take what they say seriously? make up your own mind & don't be manipulated. understanding that we are all susceptible to propaganda is a great place to start
Found this earlier and looks to be the complete 'speech'. Honestly as mentioned earlier this may have more to do with him participating in the first place and less about the chopped cherry picked line. He gets smug about being a 'hustler' sure and seems a bit odd a multi billionaire surrounded there but imo hardy a racist rant ffs. https://youtu.be/a_DbXlILlD8Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Had to see what all the uproar was about so I clicked on the link. Found a very short video clip so had to rely on the written account.
So.... what's with all the anger being directed at AJ? Flipping the script and making suppositions about what if Fury said something similar are moot. It wasn't the umpteenth a white man was murdered by a black cop without anything having been done about it. So yeah... a little frustration is understandable.
Or is it that we can accept a black athlete talking about his left jab, but he's not allowed to speak his mind on social issues?
Just trying to get a handle on things here.
I never mentioned your parents because I am not hung up on race or where one of someone's grandparents were born, unlike you, you big girls blouse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlBetter than you ? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzYou can barely write English Al and have never respected anyone unless they indulge you in your fake patriotic bollocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlVictim ? you think anything Joshua says has any relevance to me ?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzStop playing the victim card. Pull up your socks like a big boy and enough of your blatant bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlI think his comments were racist, a white person would never be able to say do not shop in black shops only use white owned shops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Joshua is a boxer thats it, i certainly have gone from fan to not a fan.
But the ironic thing about Joshua's comments is that personally I couldn't care less about anything he says, however is Tyson Fury said the same in reverse he and his family would already be in a police cell.
Double standards for sure from the liberal left wing media and PC system, I mean the British Bullshit Corporation for all their politial race bating , couldnt even use the correct photo on their report of George Floyd's funeral.
Your guys have the blood of 60,000 British Citizens on their hands ushered in by a right wing BBC and you have the absolute front to blather "what about Labour?"
At least you can drop the fake not a racist bullshit. The fact you still insist on calling Ali 'Clay' spreaks volumes.
https://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfo...tid=5375&stc=1
The person who talks bullshit is the one who despite the crushing loss of the left , still tell everyone he is right.
You are the only victim who constantly bleats and goes on public demonstrations, why because you always have something to bleat about.
This entire protest is a non peaceful one , the type you condemn when its comes to the right, so basically Beanz fuck off you cunt .
My opinion is my opinion , I'm entitled to it as everyone else is theirs.
Also yes i will be cheering anyone who fights Joshua from now on , he is a cunt.
P.S I wouldn't surprise anyone here if you and the rest of your cronies went one this march.
60,000 British Citizens dead many of them veterans and at least 20,000 of them due to a delay in lockdown caused by Johnson a law breaking racist thug you championed. And from you silence.
So fuck off with your smug I'm better than these other idiots crap. You ain't mate. No better than me, no better than Joshua, no better than Denilson.
For one you cunt , my parents who you have branded racist because they vote Tory are not remotely racist.
One thing my parents did teach me is not to take tattooed scrounging left wing protesting ponces seriously.
Not sure what polish gypsys are taught but there is an example of how I was brought up.
So I will leave you with your usual left wing why go to work when you can be a protesting with the violent masses.
For the record we all know your not a scrounger , or from polish gypsy stock, or a protestor, i say this before you jump to conclusions.
ps. how did the house sale to fund your holiday go ? in a council flat yet ?
:fyou:
Don't judge other people by your own double standards you sad wannabe fucking aristocrat.
And no we don't live in a council flat. I was raised on a council estate but we live in our own property on which we paid the mortgage years ago. We sold another second property to fund my Mrs being able to travel before her mobility deteration makes it impossible.
Unlike you we have to rely on one income, which you know means I have had to work really hard. It obviously fucking irks you which is why since the day I told you, you have been PMing like a flapping fishwive telling everyone I am some kind of benefit scrounger.
You sound like bitter Gladys.
Dark Lady Ada pushing up you false boobs and spitting your teeth out.
No, there are a handful of rich blacks that whites let get rich but only for their sports or singing entertainment to serve the entertainment needs of whites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraI try not to get involved in horse shit race baiting threads like this , but who is “they”?Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
In Sport, the most successful and rich Sportsmen are Black! And deservedly so. Look at Mayweather, Joshua, Hamilton , Tiger, Jordan, And so many others both now and in the past. The list goes on and on and on!
Why? Because they are the fucking best. Could be luck, coincidence, superior genetics, better attitude and mental strength ?? who the fuck knows.
But what I do know is that some of the biggest icons and financially successful people in Sporting history are Black.
Naturally, a lot of white people have got rich hanging onto their shirt tails, but how are we gonna stop that?
So if “they won’t let blacks succeed financially”, then “they” are doing a pretty lousy job, don’t you think? :rolleyes:
What do I have to do with this you Sperg Merchant? Stick to Al who I consider a fine Englishman with fine English heritage.
I am quite happy and do better than you. You are welcome.
If I do well in a black country then is that not through blacks allowing ne to get rich too? Though to be fair Nigeria doesn't really have a white Oprah or Diana Ross.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellNo, there are a handful of rich blacks that whites let get rich but only for their sports or singing entertainment to serve the entertainment needs of whites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraI try not to get involved in horse shit race baiting threads like this , but who is “they”?Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
In Sport, the most successful and rich Sportsmen are Black! And deservedly so. Look at Mayweather, Joshua, Hamilton , Tiger, Jordan, And so many others both now and in the past. The list goes on and on and on!
Why? Because they are the fucking best. Could be luck, coincidence, superior genetics, better attitude and mental strength ?? who the fuck knows.
But what I do know is that some of the biggest icons and financially successful people in Sporting history are Black.
Naturally, a lot of white people have got rich hanging onto their shirt tails, but how are we gonna stop that?
So if “they won’t let blacks succeed financially”, then “they” are doing a pretty lousy job, don’t you think? :rolleyes:
HOLY SHIT!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliFound this earlier and looks to be the complete 'speech'. Honestly as mentioned earlier this may have more to do with him participating in the first place and less about the chopped cherry picked line. He gets smug about being a 'hustler' sure and seems a bit odd a multi billionaire surrounded there but imo hardy a racist rant ffs. https://youtu.be/a_DbXlILlD8Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Had to see what all the uproar was about so I clicked on the link. Found a very short video clip so had to rely on the written account.
So.... what's with all the anger being directed at AJ? Flipping the script and making suppositions about what if Fury said something similar are moot. It wasn't the umpteenth a white man was murdered by a black cop without anything having been done about it. So yeah... a little frustration is understandable.
Or is it that we can accept a black athlete talking about his left jab, but he's not allowed to speak his mind on social issues?
Just trying to get a handle on things here.
Thats it??????????? THATS what everybody is up in arms about?????????????
Thats my first viewing of it, I was expecting some racist ranting tirade. That was fucking TAME. ZERO RACIST IN THERE, SORRY.
They are just looking for justification for their own blatant racism. For years it has been tolerated here on the forum and they are desperately looking for an excuse to not change. They are like kids who never even really graduated to high school, let alone from it.
Look at the disdain they show toward any kind of opportunity to learn or grow. They think change is a weakness.
those pushing race are the problem
It was racism and he is ASSUMING racism in the case of a crime in America which is not proven as racism and suggests avoiding white businesses in a country that is basically a white country not even connected with the murder. What does the local white butcher have to do with anything and is he wrong if he factually believes more whites are killed than blacks by police in the UK? Does evidence or logic not matter at all? How would that not be pointless discrimination against the butcher?Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellHOLY SHIT!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliFound this earlier and looks to be the complete 'speech'. Honestly as mentioned earlier this may have more to do with him participating in the first place and less about the chopped cherry picked line. He gets smug about being a 'hustler' sure and seems a bit odd a multi billionaire surrounded there but imo hardy a racist rant ffs. https://youtu.be/a_DbXlILlD8Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Had to see what all the uproar was about so I clicked on the link. Found a very short video clip so had to rely on the written account.
So.... what's with all the anger being directed at AJ? Flipping the script and making suppositions about what if Fury said something similar are moot. It wasn't the umpteenth a white man was murdered by a black cop without anything having been done about it. So yeah... a little frustration is understandable.
Or is it that we can accept a black athlete talking about his left jab, but he's not allowed to speak his mind on social issues?
Just trying to get a handle on things here.
Thats it??????????? THATS what everybody is up in arms about?????????????
Thats my first viewing of it, I was expecting some racist ranting tirade. That was fucking TAME. ZERO RACIST IN THERE, SORRY.
Joshua was admitting there that he is a 'hustler' too. It is only boxing that saved him. Take that away and where is he? Not such a good place. Good on him for using that chance, but most who try won't go that far as like with anything you usually need to be doing it from a very young age like Calzaghe or Hatton. It is something we work on all our lives like we do in classrooms with our minds. It is more likely that a stable life will come from doing well in the classroom and choosing a reasonable career from the basis of a healthy loving family. That is where it all starts. Working on something when young and molding the mind towards a goal. That is how we grow.
Your life story has more holes than a sieve, yes you did call all tory voters racist, which includes my parents.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzI never mentioned your parents because I am not hung up on race or where one of someone's grandparents were born, unlike you, you big girls blouse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlBetter than you ? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzYou can barely write English Al and have never respected anyone unless they indulge you in your fake patriotic bollocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlVictim ? you think anything Joshua says has any relevance to me ?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzStop playing the victim card. Pull up your socks like a big boy and enough of your blatant bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlI think his comments were racist, a white person would never be able to say do not shop in black shops only use white owned shops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Joshua is a boxer thats it, i certainly have gone from fan to not a fan.
But the ironic thing about Joshua's comments is that personally I couldn't care less about anything he says, however is Tyson Fury said the same in reverse he and his family would already be in a police cell.
Double standards for sure from the liberal left wing media and PC system, I mean the British Bullshit Corporation for all their politial race bating , couldnt even use the correct photo on their report of George Floyd's funeral.
Your guys have the blood of 60,000 British Citizens on their hands ushered in by a right wing BBC and you have the absolute front to blather "what about Labour?"
At least you can drop the fake not a racist bullshit. The fact you still insist on calling Ali 'Clay' spreaks volumes.
https://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfo...tid=5375&stc=1
The person who talks bullshit is the one who despite the crushing loss of the left , still tell everyone he is right.
You are the only victim who constantly bleats and goes on public demonstrations, why because you always have something to bleat about.
This entire protest is a non peaceful one , the type you condemn when its comes to the right, so basically Beanz fuck off you cunt .
My opinion is my opinion , I'm entitled to it as everyone else is theirs.
Also yes i will be cheering anyone who fights Joshua from now on , he is a cunt.
P.S I wouldn't surprise anyone here if you and the rest of your cronies went one this march.
60,000 British Citizens dead many of them veterans and at least 20,000 of them due to a delay in lockdown caused by Johnson a law breaking racist thug you championed. And from you silence.
So fuck off with your smug I'm better than these other idiots crap. You ain't mate. No better than me, no better than Joshua, no better than Denilson.
For one you cunt , my parents who you have branded racist because they vote Tory are not remotely racist.
One thing my parents did teach me is not to take tattooed scrounging left wing protesting ponces seriously.
Not sure what polish gypsys are taught but there is an example of how I was brought up.
So I will leave you with your usual left wing why go to work when you can be a protesting with the violent masses.
For the record we all know your not a scrounger , or from polish gypsy stock, or a protestor, i say this before you jump to conclusions.
ps. how did the house sale to fund your holiday go ? in a council flat yet ?
:fyou:
Don't judge other people by your own double standards you sad wannabe fucking aristocrat.
And no we don't live in a council flat. I was raised on a council estate but we live in our own property on which we paid the mortgage years ago. We sold another second property to fund my Mrs being able to travel before her mobility deteration makes it impossible.
Unlike you we have to rely on one income, which you know means I have had to work really hard. It obviously fucking irks you which is why since the day I told you, you have been PMing like a flapping fishwive telling everyone I am some kind of benefit scrounger.
You sound like bitter Gladys.
Dark Lady Ada pushing up you false boobs and spitting your teeth out.
For the record I am working class and proud of that fact, doesn't everyone enjoy the finer things in life when they work hard to achieve them ?
I presume your comment - " wannabe aristocrat "
Is reference to the fact you don't understand someone could be working class , proud and successful enjoying the finer things in life they have worked hard to achieve ?
If my comments in the cuisine page about food and wine offend you then just don't read them if it makes you feel better.
I am not bitter about life at all, but as everyone does sometimes you get furious by another's comments . Putting across you point is always more difficult in text form, especially when typing on a phone etc. It is far easier to debate a point in person, which is my preferred way.
This entire forum is here for us to have fun, I know I certainly do.
Bitter - NO, life is too important to be bitter about a boxing forum.
What black man who stood for his people hasn't been called a racist. None.
How many blacks own businesses in white neighborhoods?:confused:
How many whites venture into black neighborhoods to do business?:rolleyes:
So in sync, wherever I go, whites who cant agree politically or religiously can somehow always find a racist in blacks. By words, not action. All the time.
Name a white guy who is a racist and 3/4 of the board will call that poster a bleeding heart liberal or a hater of their own. :eek:
Exactly. Also, Any man can call for anything, what happened to freedom of speech? I can call for all Scorpios and Pisces to avoid Mexican food on Tuesdays and Fridays. It's not racist. Joshua can say "frequent African and Carribean businesses only", it's freedom of speech. What's wrong with encouraging the self determination of your own people??? What's wrong with Kurds doing business with other Kurds and avoiding Irish shops? Is there any law against that? I support the downtrodden (400 years of intergenerational trauma, changes the DNA, etc.) Uplifting Themselves BY ANY (LEGAL) MEANS NECESSARY. Afro-Cubans should purchase their products at African stores. Fuck Walmart and Mike Brady's "Old Galway Shop". Armenians shop at Armenian, Indian, Arabic and Persian bazaars. We don't give our money to Fritz Ulmer's Delicatessen. Bangladeshis shop at Bengali and Pakistani stores. They don't give their hard earned money to Billy Kirk's Auto Shop. Fuck that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
I buy all my cassava, fufu, coconut, jackfruit, bhindi, palak, saijan, tamarind, catahar, aloo, jeera, dhania, haldi, ajwain, lal mitch, etc.at ARMENIAN, INDIAN, IRANIAN STORES.
I give nothing to Timmy Taylor's Food Market
Damn that was a good post.
I wonder sometimes those who think that comment is bad, do they ever shop or entertain in Chinatown? LOL! I wonder if the word is oxymoron? I get it. there is no whiteguy town or Aryan Shopping mall- BY name. To make matter worse Blacks do a disservice by still clinging on words that emphasize Black ---do the term black Lives matter, of course, but so few of my people seem to know or care how many whites are waiting to see what crime did the dead guy do in the past to justify being murdered in cold blood. Blacks cant protest with guns wrapped around us. We kneel as one does in prayer a sign of humility-well now it is a sign of hating the flag. Damn we kneel we hate our country? AJ asks his people to keep their dollars in their communities like everyone else does...well he is a racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellExactly. Also, Any man can call for anything, what happened to freedom of speech? I can call for all Scorpios and Pisces to avoid Mexican food on Tuesdays and Fridays. It's not racist. Joshua can say "frequent African and Carribean businesses only", it's freedom of speech. What's wrong with encouraging the self determination of your own people??? What's wrong with Kurds doing business with other Kurds and avoiding Irish shops? Is there any law against that? I support the downtrodden (400 years of intergenerational trauma, changes the DNA, etc.) Uplifting Themselves BY ANY (LEGAL) MEANS NECESSARY. Afro-Cubans should purchase their products at African stores. Fuck Walmart and Mike Brady's "Old Galway Shop". Armenians shop at Armenian, Indian, Arabic and Persian bazaars. We don't give our money to Fritz Ulmer's Delicatessen. Bangladeshis shop at Bengali and Pakistani stores. They don't give their hard earned money to Billy Kirk's Auto Shop. Fuck that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
I buy all my cassava, fufu, coconut, jackfruit, bhindi, palak, saijan, tamarind, catahar, aloo, jeera, dhania, haldi, ajwain, lal mitch, etc.at ARMENIAN, INDIAN, IRANIAN STORES.
I give nothing to Timmy Taylor's Food Market
or as Hannity stated:
https://youtu.be/_oIobOMTMOU
AJ knows he has a platform and telling black to fight with dollars and not with guns still wont reach the thick-headed people who choose to see life in black in white, left or right, blue or red. He is wrong.
Personally if I had the say- -1. My people do have to stop using the term black. 2 stop accepting Democratic patronage, solely 3. Find common ground with other demographics whom are probably pissed off as well be it Muslims, Independent political parties, Latinos, heck I think even Irish were targeted a few years ago by this admin.
A lesbian chick makes a statement on facebook- it turns into a name- BLM. No weapons training. No mission statement yet reading this forum and every other one...Black Lives Matters is worse than Evopra, Aryan Brotherhood, Neo Nazi, America First Party, KKK...heck they are the terrorists of today Black lives Matter...based on what I am reading.
AJ verdict: Great initiative, poor judgement. The media is kind to no one and can take any part of a person's statement and turn it against them.
Welcome to hatesville AJ. You don't have to hate whites, to be racist, just love your own enough to keep your money out of the hands of those who mean u little good. That is all it takes to become a racist today.
I want to post one more time here. Not intending to offend, but if I do, take it in context- Do you think there is ever a time where a black man can teach any of you anything? If, so. Just chill a moment, please.
Class is in::teacher::
AJ- is communicating the one thing blacks around the world got hipped on too -while taking in the history of civil rights in America.
The Bible was used, it got Martin Luther King nowhere. Not a Christian came to his aid, the entire movement was ignored by every religious doctrine.
Non-violence was used, it got Martin Luther King nowhere but ass whooping after ass whooping. Not one came via an atheist or Muslim BTW.
When he was fighting for integration at a damn lunch counter...,he was ok...but when that negro was educated by the Nation on how his CIVIL rights movement was a fight against his own Christian brethren...When he got educated on how the nation said....solicit your own...and see if he wont come to the bargaining table then...so said MLK Jr said- BOYCOTT THE city BUSES.
When the $ comes up short? The powers get pissed. So what can we do? They integrated the busses not because Christ told them too. Because their money came up short.
Now, we got bargaining power. We realized we cant fight the system with guns. So the life taken of a person by a bad cop is backed by a good unit presents heartache -since we are in the year 2020 and no churches will consider, then only one option remains...find a way to take that $ away- when it comes up -they need that money that blacks spend...well how much is it worth to you?
Is it worth coming to the table on reform for policing units globally? How can we have so many neo Nazis unveiled as cops in Milwaukee, Atlanta to name a few police departments that learned after killing.
Money has a way of making even soulless evil beings cloaked in flesh...willing to renegotiate.
We die with no weapons in our hands, while we watch white protestors guns, locked and loaded. We tried that. We weren't even locked nor loaded, so what happened? Ronald Reagan with Democrats and Republicans passed overnight the right to carry & conceal...should be stripped in bipartisan fashion they did it practically overnight, so we have proof we cant protest like whites do.
I am happy for AJ. He will be hated by some whites, not all. He can be loved just like Ali- a man who reached beyond shores, boundaries and flags. But the price is always hate. hated for words, not actions.
Just like when Lebron James got the most hate mail on the week he spent 8 million dollars of his own money to start a school- but fuck him -cause he hates Trump. My point? If Lebron can be loathed over a text...called racist. While taking responsibility for HIS OWN! :mad: THEN AJ can expect the same. hell, some people love to hate.
Just my opinion on how some whites just want to perceive racism as you want and not by definition.
I do not hate him at all. I just happen to think he is misguided. Are black people honestly being discriminated against in an obvious way or even being murdered in the UK? And if not, then what is he talking about? Why does he have an objection to using John Smith's butcher shop based on John Smith being white and disagreeing that black people are being sacrificed by British police officers.
There is simply no case there. He has had his own brushes with the law and it was because he was doing things that are illegal. It just happens to be the case that black people proportionally carry out more illegal activities than some other groups. It is not racism at work here.
Fair play to him saying that the thug life is a road to nowhere, but he did choose to go there himself. If he was being really honest he would avoid the topic of white businesses and address the real issue which is that the black community has a very big issue with simply raising kids in an environment with a loving mother and father. It is a self responsibility issue more than racism.
If there are group differences, then the only way to address that in some way is to provide equality of opportunity and let the smart one's do what they can do and many indeed do that. This current mania of hunting down companies to see how many blacks are in their board rooms is stupid. Start with the basics first which is to raise a kid and teach self responsibility and civic duty. When a society starts to understand that it all starts with a tidy room, then great things can happen.
Miles have you watched the full speech? I ask because I've said multiple times that 'Joshua' or whoever he was being a mouthpiece for, pretty much agrees with you. The message is very clear.
The social media buzz is comical. 'Hope Fury batters the racist' ;D Short memories some of these Facebook boxing experts.
I'd like to think you don't hate him either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Since I am not near his country I have no clue of the intricate details of his plans. From an outside perspective I could imagine him or team member telling him- since this issue is blowing up globally, respond. That's what Ali would've done.
So he could be making a play on a global stage, thus looking out of place internally-as I wont pretend to know about John's Butcher shop being Ground Zero.
Fair play is hard to define. how so? Since so many blacks are rich athletes, the argument is how can black complain, not comprehending the % is small, let alone that it was only the love for $ that allowed blacks into sports. That matters to us.
as your statement: It just happens to be the case that black people proportionally carry out more illegal activities than some other groups
we will agree to disagree, here in America , there is a disproportionate number of whites who can find legal representation to lessen or eliminate the guilt. In other words, the amount of whites who stand in front of a judge isn't the number sent to prison.
As far as him having brushes with the law, not sure what that means. That means he cant become a better person and then become a mentor for those who saw him doing wrong? Those are the ones that get the bad kids to turn around. nice guys don't have pull in the streets, you know this bro. He should silence himself for brushes with the law? :confused:
I dig your society statement, but again we differ.
Society: the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community and having shared customs, laws, and organizations.
When a people realizes that an order for shared laws and customs can deny or denounce the latter's customs as evil, immoral, too ethnic, then that society has to identify the origins of each people's laws, customs. When it is all said and done, the one who has the guns, the military is the one to dictate how a society behaves.
And when a people at the bottom of any society rise, naturally they will be scene as either an impediment or impeding the process of maintaining the origin of their society. ready to die and or kill anyone who wants to change that order.
That IMO is why societies all across the world are turning upside down.
See we weren't alive to see these massive migrations when it was Europe moving into Africa to know how they dealt with it. We live in the hear and now where African nations are moving into Euorpean countries disrupting a society via change.
had there been no fucked up presentations of God, we may have had a different means to resolve, but since religion has proven full of it..well the only way to solve is politically.
And we are given two raggedy ass parties to choose from...oh, society as we know it is transitory my friend.:cool:
He is more concerned about John Smith the butcher than watching the full speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Yes, I have watched the 2 minute video. John Smith was the man who might have nixed the Blair tyranny too, but alas his heart broke. He made excellent pork scaratchings.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe is more concerned about John Smith the butcher than watching the full speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
I don't buy into the notion of boycotting for no good reason. Britain is one of the least racist countries in the world, so I don't really know what his problem with John Smith is.
Many black people live good lives by just not doing what their parents did if bad or by doing what their parents did if good. It is a personal choice to go off the rails though and for that I do support Joshua stating as such.
The boycott part just makes no sense and the same with the protests in general unless understood from a radical Marxist position. Statues in the UK have nothing to do with a personal rivalry between 2 men likely gone a bit wrong. Where is the racism in that incident? Has that been proven? If not, then what is it all about?
Scaratching is not a word. I meant scratching.
No, he actually IS John Smith.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe is more concerned about John Smith the butcher than watching the full speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
He has the flitting attention span of a gnat and can't stand the idea of someone not adoring him. He doesn't even give a shit about John Smith. He knows nothing about his own history or culture and so has to desperately grasp for some relevance by denigrating the achievements of others.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe is more concerned about John Smith the butcher than watching the full speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
You sure have a hell of a lot of time for someone you supposedly ignoreQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzHe has the flitting attention span of a gnat and can't stand the idea of someone not adoring him. He doesn't even give a shit about John Smith. He knows nothing about his own history or culture and so has to desperately grasp for some relevance by denigrating the achievements of others.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe is more concerned about John Smith the butcher than watching the full speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
He sure does. Unlike him I actually have a degree in History and you know that I am rather involved in my culture in a way that he cannot be. However, let the useless man rant away. He is assuming a lot but knows little.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongYou sure have a hell of a lot of time for someone you supposedly ignoreQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzHe has the flitting attention span of a gnat and can't stand the idea of someone not adoring him. He doesn't even give a shit about John Smith. He knows nothing about his own history or culture and so has to desperately grasp for some relevance by denigrating the achievements of others.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe is more concerned about John Smith the butcher than watching the full speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
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Originally Posted by El KabongYou sure have a hell of a lot of time for someone you supposedly ignoreQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzHe has the flitting attention span of a gnat and can't stand the idea of someone not adoring him. He doesn't even give a shit about John Smith. He knows nothing about his own history or culture and so has to desperately grasp for some relevance by denigrating the achievements of others.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe is more concerned about John Smith the butcher than watching the full speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Still refusing to debate anything like an adult then? There are about 15 posts that you refuse to reply to . A list of questions in one and still it is too much for you.
You are not very good at ignoring for a lifetime are you? Why should I respect your wish to not have your awful wretched life insulted when you speak like this? Final warning. I am playing fair, by giving you a heads up. This is the main board and again you are making it a duel. You don't need to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzHe has the flitting attention span of a gnat and can't stand the idea of someone not adoring him. He doesn't even give a shit about John Smith. He knows nothing about his own history or culture and so has to desperately grasp for some relevance by denigrating the achievements of others.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe is more concerned about John Smith the butcher than watching the full speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
He probably has a job and owes you nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongYou sure have a hell of a lot of time for someone you supposedly ignoreQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzHe has the flitting attention span of a gnat and can't stand the idea of someone not adoring him. He doesn't even give a shit about John Smith. He knows nothing about his own history or culture and so has to desperately grasp for some relevance by denigrating the achievements of others.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe is more concerned about John Smith the butcher than watching the full speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Still refusing to debate anything like an adult then? There are about 15 posts that you refuse to reply to . A list of questions in one and still it is too much for you.
@SlimTrae - The UK is nothing like the US. Joshua hasn't been vilified by the media (zero criticism) or vast majority of the UK. There's a tiny minority, in the overall scheme, on social media calling him racist, and I repeat, they would have done the same regardless of the speech, just a picture with a BLM t-shirt would have been enough. Eddie Chambers, an African American, exposed Joshua's "black is the superior race" comments, it didn't make a ripple. It doesn't offend me.
From what i've seen from your own country, maybe Joshua's speech would have resonated more with "your people" looting and attacking their own neighborhoods/businesses? Opportunist scumbags, regardless of whose "people," don't give a shit whether they're wreaking mayhem on corporate giants or their grandmother.
We need to stop feeding people - every person regardless of colour/ethnicity - envy, paranoia and hate. You're not going to be Michael Jordan, it's OK, you can still have a fantastic life.
Bloody brilliant article about Peter Norman the white guy in this iconic photograph
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLvU7OGWsAAEbrX.jpg:large
https://www.filmsforaction.org/artic...7LDiB.facebook
Yes Beanz quickly change the subject. Which posts am I not responding to? Also are you calling for me to post MORE? I feel like I'm getting mixed signals from you, but that would be understandable wouldn't it? A list of questions eh, give me this list of questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
But yeah Gandalf is living rent free in that cavernous noggin of yours isn't he?