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Re: Sky Race Warnings on movies
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El Kabong
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Spicoli
Just for clarification are these flicks, other than Gone with the Wind on a certain platform, actually going anywhere? Sounds like it’s literally a 2-3 line label to viewers almost like warnings that already exist on movies. Yeh def a little hyper sensitive but there’s a difference between chopping or 86ing them outright and a FYI label.
I mean seriously name any movie in the history of Hollywood and at least 1 line or scene can be highlighted as outdated, offensive or racially ‘whitewashed’. You’d literally have to delete the majority of Westerns from the early Century 30’s through 70’s. How many times did Burt Reynolds depict an Indian ffs. Aliens is a head scratcher. I thought it was for ‘Vazquez’. Ironic though as it spawned one of the most badass characters for a female lead over the movies and stood apart.
Warnings like what? Don't record this & sell on the black market? Or "This movie contains nudity, profane language, sexual content, etc" :rolleyes: .....the warnings have only gotten longer you've got to warn people about smoking these days. Why? Who is the target audience for these warnings? And as you see from the list of films the warnings themselves are arbitrary and lump everything together regardless of if it's satire or a comedy or serious. 'Tropic Thunder' is offensive? Really? To who?
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Beanz
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El Kabong
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Beanz
Lots of things are fucking dumb if you are outraged by a few words before a movie you are a full on fucking broflake. Get over yourself.
As per usual Beanz excuses stupidity.
Nowhere did i condone or approve your stupidity. ;D
If your idea of censorship is not having the right to demand a private company remove a warning from a product they have paid for the rights to, you probably need to have a little more grit sprinkled in your shoes... softy.
Ironic how Mr. Photographer, Mr. Punk Rock is ok with warning labels on art. I guess you wouldn't remember Tipper Gore and the PMRC who slapped a warning label on Frank Zappa's entirely INSTRUMENTAL album, Danzig skirted the PMRC with the lyrics in 'Mother', Dee Snider of 'Twisted Sister' railed against Tipper Gore in front of Congress, NOFX wrote 'The PMRC Can Suck on This'......and yet here you are defending this warning label. How very punk of you ;D
It ain't my place to speak over the artist's meaning or crowd their style. I can have an opinion on art, but I don't require a warning Grandma.
Unlike you, i don't suck Murdoch's cock so i don't have to read any warnings.
This is just you stamping your feet and demanding that people be outraged like the Politically Correct Corporate boot licking arsehole you have always been.
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Beanz
Unlike you, i don't suck Murdoch's cock so i don't have to read any warnings.
This is just you stamping your feet and demanding that people be outraged like the Politically Correct Corporate boot licking arsehole you have always been.
Thought you said the warning labels were Murdoch's idea so he wouldn't be sued?
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Beanz
Ha!
So they are still showing them but including a legal disclaimer because Murdoch doesn't want to be sued or something?
If I support Political Correctness why would I oppose the warning labels?
Are you having trouble comprehending this Beanz?
I believe in what Mark Twain said “Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it.”
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Re: Sky Race Warnings on movies
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El Kabong
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Beanz
Unlike you, i don't suck Murdoch's cock so i don't have to read any warnings.
This is just you stamping your feet and demanding that people be outraged like the Politically Correct Corporate boot licking arsehole you have always been.
Thought you said the warning labels were Murdoch's idea so he wouldn't be sued?
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Beanz
Ha!
So they are still showing them but including a legal disclaimer because Murdoch doesn't want to be sued or something?
If I support Political Correctness why would I oppose the warning labels?
Are you having trouble comprehending this Beanz?
I believe in what Mark Twain said
“Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it.”
Unlike you I don't buy the Sun, watch Fox or subscribe to Sky. So I don't have to read the bloke you supports warnings. The fact remains though that the films are still available unedited. Nobody is telling you that you can't deep throat as much prime beefcake as you want.
And still you seem to be forgetting that being politically correct is not just something misused by people on the left. Right Wing prissy nutjobs like you are just as bad. Here you are in all seriousness as a staunch defender of decidedly anti Christian hyper capitalism insisting that a private subscription company should be prevented from deciding to include a warning before an unedited film, purely because you personally are so pathetic, you are offended by some words on screen.
The irony is delicious.
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Beanz
Unlike you I don't buy the Sun, watch Fox or subscribe to Sky.
I don't buy The Sun, I have watched both Fox & FoxNews but I no longer have cable, and I've never watched Sky. However, the warnings aren't only being placed on Sky. HBO/Max has provided a lecture for 'Gone With The Wind'. One that I do not need or want to see as I know of the historical context of both the Civil War and era around 1939 when the movie was produced.
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So I don't have to read the bloke you supports warnings. The fact remains though that the films are still available unedited. Nobody is telling you that you can't deep throat as much prime beefcake as you want.
And still you seem to be forgetting that being politically correct is not just something misused by people on the left. Right Wing prissy nutjobs like you are just as bad. Here you are in all seriousness as a staunch defender of decidedly anti Christian hyper capitalism insisting that a private subscription company should be prevented from deciding to include a warning before an unedited film, purely because you personally are so pathetic, you are offended by some words on screen.
The irony is delicious.
Again, I don't pretend to speak for the artists and I don't care if it's "Piss Christ" or "The Greatest Story Ever Told" artists should have their say and nobody should step in front of them to attempt to explain their art to their audience.
But I guess Mr. Punk Rock feels differently about that.....indeed, delicious irony, on that we can agree.
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Do I have to be making a point?
I was highlighting the warnings sky were putting on their movies if you read the fucking post.
Did I say you could no longer watch.
Started down a path that will see more films than not needing a warning
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Beanz
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Beanz
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TIC
this is what happens when you start censoring free speech
No. most of the guys here really do not give a fuck about free speech. They would willingly stand by and watch decent people all over the world rot in jail and die after being tortured for excercising free speech.
The amount of derision and general disdain when i have mentioned or linked to Amnesty International and Index against Censorship campaigns and events i have worked on here proves that.
This what happens when you believe any conspiracy that has been designed to distract your from REAL CENSORSHIP AND REMOVAL OF HUMAN RIGHTS AND FREE SPEECH
BLAZING SADDLES HAS NOT BEEN BANNED
i'm not sure how most of that relates to my post. i would say this is what happens when you believe instead of know. i haven't said anything about movies but they are want & getting things changed like aunt jemima. when you start putting feelings above free speech this is the path it leads to
Take you own advice
'This is what happens when you believe instead of know'
Blazing Saddles hasn't been banned. People want to believe it has but when it is shown and explained that has not happened
They simply do not want to know.
i take that advise everyday. i still haven't said anything about movies
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Re: Sky Race Warnings on movies
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El Kabong
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Spicoli
Just for clarification are these flicks, other than Gone with the Wind on a certain platform, actually going anywhere? Sounds like it’s literally a 2-3 line label to viewers almost like warnings that already exist on movies. Yeh def a little hyper sensitive but there’s a difference between chopping or 86ing them outright and a FYI label.
I mean seriously name any movie in the history of Hollywood and at least 1 line or scene can be highlighted as outdated, offensive or racially ‘whitewashed’. You’d literally have to delete the majority of Westerns from the early Century 30’s through 70’s. How many times did Burt Reynolds depict an Indian ffs. Aliens is a head scratcher. I thought it was for ‘Vazquez’. Ironic though as it spawned one of the most badass characters for a female lead over the movies and stood apart.
Warnings like what? Don't record this & sell on the black market? Or "This movie contains nudity, profane language, sexual content, etc" :rolleyes: .....the warnings have only gotten longer you've got to warn people about smoking these days. Why? Who is the target audience for these warnings? And as you see from the list of films the warnings themselves are arbitrary and lump everything together regardless of if it's satire or a comedy or serious. 'Tropic Thunder' is offensive? Really? To who?
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Beanz
Lots of things are fucking dumb if you are outraged by a few words before a movie you are a full on fucking broflake. Get over yourself.
As per usual Beanz excuses stupidity.
Nowhere did i condone or approve your stupidity. ;D
If your idea of censorship is not having the right to demand a private company remove a warning from a product they have paid for the rights to, you probably need to have a little more grit sprinkled in your shoes... softy.
Ironic how Mr. Photographer, Mr. Punk Rock is ok with warning labels on art. I guess you wouldn't remember Tipper Gore and the PMRC who slapped a warning label on Frank Zappa's entirely INSTRUMENTAL album, Danzig skirted the PMRC with the lyrics in 'Mother', Dee Snider of 'Twisted Sister' railed against Tipper Gore in front of Congress, NOFX wrote 'The PMRC Can Suck on This'......and yet here you are defending this warning label. How very punk of you ;D
It ain't my place to speak over the artist's meaning or crowd their style. I can have an opinion on art, but I don't require a warning Grandma.
Well yeh the standard rating system warnings they do. As long as I can recall there’s been advisories for shows or movies on public air and sure they’ve added in as times change. Like I said I’d rather that than editing out or censoring movies. But that’s also been done for the longest. Studios often rework versions both for ‘public’ aka free commercial network vs an HBO or theater etc. As long as I can get the uncut version than as a consumer that’s where I’ll go. Do they really have warnings for smoking in movies?? Truth is I haven’t been to a theater in years but haven’t seen a warning for it on a Netflix or Hulu etc. I know they prohibit paid product placement for tobacco but unsure of a mandated warning.
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Re: Sky Race Warnings on movies
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Spicoli
Well yeh the standard rating system warnings they do. As long as I can recall there’s been advisories for shows or movies on public air and sure they’ve added in as times change. Like I said I’d rather that than editing out or censoring movies. But that’s also been done for the longest. Studios often rework versions both for ‘public’ aka free commercial network vs an HBO or theater etc. As long as I can get the uncut version than as a consumer that’s where I’ll go. Do they really have warnings for smoking in movies?? Truth is I haven’t been to a theater in years but haven’t seen a warning for it on a Netflix or Hulu etc. I know they prohibit paid product placement for tobacco but unsure of a mandated warning.
Netflix to introduce smoking warnings to its ratings system
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...atings-system/
The Man With No Name is about to be slapped with a health warning. Netflix is to add smoking to its online rating system, listing it alongside scenes of sex and violence.
Classic films that will be branded for their tobacco content include The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, in which Clint Eastwood is rarely seen without a cigarillo between his lips.
All future films made by Netflix will omit smoking unless the writer and director can prove it is “essential to the creative vision” of the project. A remake of Sergio Leone’s spaghetti western would be unlikely to feature Eastwood drawling: “After a meal, there’s nothing like a good cigar.”
From Princess Margaret in The Crown to Don Draper in Mad Men, Kristin Scott Thomas in Four Weddings and a Funeral to Renee Zellweger in Bridget Jones’s Diary, some of film and television’s most memorable characters have a cigarette in their hand.
All will merit smoking warnings under new rules announced yesterday(7/3/19) by the US streaming service, along with a ban on smoking in all new content (a TV-14 or below rating for television, PG-13 or below for film) aimed at young people except “for reasons of historical or factual accuracy”.
Higher-rated projects will only include smoking if it is “essential to the creative vision of the artist or because it’s character-defining (historically or culturally important).”
All I'm saying is allow artists to create art.
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Random but have to throw in, the Dee Snider testimony was and remains one of the truest moments before Congress that we’ve witnessed. I remember it very well and the push for album labeling and frankly only purchasing albums and cassettes WITH the labels for that very reason ;D. But Dees main point of contention wasn’t that warning labels are good or bad it was that he was personally targeted and his art misrepresented and his content distorted by the PMRC. To the point of Gore outright lying about merchandise and presenting their lyrics out or order to push their agenda and use him as a scapegoat. I recall the go they had at Biafra and Frankenchrist too as mostly the PMRC were distorting actual content solely based on album covers or jackets and talking out of their asses. Snider made the case perfect..they watched the video but ignored the lyrics. The actual parental advisory sticks actually became a marketing tag in time blowing up in their faces and an exercise in Government futility and idiocy.
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Re: Sky Race Warnings on movies
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El Kabong
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Spicoli
Well yeh the standard rating system warnings they do. As long as I can recall there’s been advisories for shows or movies on public air and sure they’ve added in as times change. Like I said I’d rather that than editing out or censoring movies. But that’s also been done for the longest. Studios often rework versions both for ‘public’ aka free commercial network vs an HBO or theater etc. As long as I can get the uncut version than as a consumer that’s where I’ll go. Do they really have warnings for smoking in movies?? Truth is I haven’t been to a theater in years but haven’t seen a warning for it on a Netflix or Hulu etc. I know they prohibit paid product placement for tobacco but unsure of a mandated warning.
Netflix to introduce smoking warnings to its ratings system
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...atings-system/
The Man With No Name is about to be slapped with a health warning. Netflix is to add smoking to its online rating system, listing it alongside scenes of sex and violence.
Classic films that will be branded for their tobacco content include The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, in which Clint Eastwood is rarely seen without a cigarillo between his lips.
All future films made by Netflix will omit smoking unless the writer and director can prove it is “essential to the creative vision” of the project. A remake of Sergio Leone’s spaghetti western would be unlikely to feature Eastwood drawling: “After a meal, there’s nothing like a good cigar.”
From Princess Margaret in The Crown to Don Draper in Mad Men, Kristin Scott Thomas in Four Weddings and a Funeral to Renee Zellweger in Bridget Jones’s Diary, some of film and television’s most memorable characters have a cigarette in their hand.
All will merit smoking warnings under new rules announced yesterday(7/3/19) by the US streaming service, along with a ban on smoking in all new content (a TV-14 or below rating for television, PG-13 or below for film) aimed at young people except “for reasons of historical or factual accuracy”.
Higher-rated projects will only include smoking if it is “essential to the creative vision of the artist or because it’s character-defining (historically or culturally important).”
All I'm saying is allow artists to create art.
Yeh now ya see that’s just dumb. I can see a line affixed to the general rating system as passable but no go at all at omitting content. Isn’t that the whole point of a rating system in the first place, adult material sexual content, gore, blah blah gets slapped with an R rating. It fixes itself it would seem. I highly doubt there will be a stringent follow through of actually chopping content and if their is than better buckle up for some lawsuits as said content was created and distributed under standing laws etc. Censoring a cigar in a scene while gunning down five whiskey swilling hombres seems a little assbackwards and unlikely but we’ll see.
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Re: Sky Race Warnings on movies
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Spicoli
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Well yeh the standard rating system warnings they do. As long as I can recall there’s been advisories for shows or movies on public air and sure they’ve added in as times change. Like I said I’d rather that than editing out or censoring movies. But that’s also been done for the longest. Studios often rework versions both for ‘public’ aka free commercial network vs an HBO or theater etc. As long as I can get the uncut version than as a consumer that’s where I’ll go. Do they really have warnings for smoking in movies?? Truth is I haven’t been to a theater in years but haven’t seen a warning for it on a Netflix or Hulu etc. I know they prohibit paid product placement for tobacco but unsure of a mandated warning.
Netflix to introduce smoking warnings to its ratings system
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...atings-system/
The Man With No Name is about to be slapped with a health warning. Netflix is to add smoking to its online rating system, listing it alongside scenes of sex and violence.
Classic films that will be branded for their tobacco content include The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, in which Clint Eastwood is rarely seen without a cigarillo between his lips.
All future films made by Netflix will omit smoking unless the writer and director can prove it is “essential to the creative vision” of the project. A remake of Sergio Leone’s spaghetti western would be unlikely to feature Eastwood drawling: “After a meal, there’s nothing like a good cigar.”
From Princess Margaret in The Crown to Don Draper in Mad Men, Kristin Scott Thomas in Four Weddings and a Funeral to Renee Zellweger in Bridget Jones’s Diary, some of film and television’s most memorable characters have a cigarette in their hand.
All will merit smoking warnings under new rules announced yesterday(7/3/19) by the US streaming service, along with a ban on smoking in all new content (a TV-14 or below rating for television, PG-13 or below for film) aimed at young people except “for reasons of historical or factual accuracy”.
Higher-rated projects will only include smoking if it is “essential to the creative vision of the artist or because it’s character-defining (historically or culturally important).”
All I'm saying is allow artists to create art.
Yeh now ya see that’s just dumb. I can see a line affixed to the general rating system as passable but no go at all at omitting content. Isn’t that the whole point of a rating system in the first place, adult material sexual content, gore, blah blah gets slapped with an R rating. It fixes itself it would seem. I highly doubt there will be a stringent follow through of actually chopping content and if their is than better buckle up for some lawsuits as said content was created and distributed under standing laws etc. Censoring a cigar in a scene while gunning down five whiskey swilling hombres seems a little assbackwards and unlikely but we’ll see.
I noticed that smoking warning on Netflix has been around for a few months unless they are making even a bigger deal about it now.
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walrus
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Spicoli
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Well yeh the standard rating system warnings they do. As long as I can recall there’s been advisories for shows or movies on public air and sure they’ve added in as times change. Like I said I’d rather that than editing out or censoring movies. But that’s also been done for the longest. Studios often rework versions both for ‘public’ aka free commercial network vs an HBO or theater etc. As long as I can get the uncut version than as a consumer that’s where I’ll go. Do they really have warnings for smoking in movies?? Truth is I haven’t been to a theater in years but haven’t seen a warning for it on a Netflix or Hulu etc. I know they prohibit paid product placement for tobacco but unsure of a mandated warning.
Netflix to introduce smoking warnings to its ratings system
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...atings-system/
The Man With No Name is about to be slapped with a health warning. Netflix is to add smoking to its online rating system, listing it alongside scenes of sex and violence.
Classic films that will be branded for their tobacco content include The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, in which Clint Eastwood is rarely seen without a cigarillo between his lips.
All future films made by Netflix will omit smoking unless the writer and director can prove it is “essential to the creative vision” of the project. A remake of Sergio Leone’s spaghetti western would be unlikely to feature Eastwood drawling: “After a meal, there’s nothing like a good cigar.”
From Princess Margaret in The Crown to Don Draper in Mad Men, Kristin Scott Thomas in Four Weddings and a Funeral to Renee Zellweger in Bridget Jones’s Diary, some of film and television’s most memorable characters have a cigarette in their hand.
All will merit smoking warnings under new rules announced yesterday(7/3/19) by the US streaming service, along with a ban on smoking in all new content (a TV-14 or below rating for television, PG-13 or below for film) aimed at young people except “for reasons of historical or factual accuracy”.
Higher-rated projects will only include smoking if it is “essential to the creative vision of the artist or because it’s character-defining (historically or culturally important).”
All I'm saying is allow artists to create art.
Yeh now ya see that’s just dumb. I can see a line affixed to the general rating system as passable but no go at all at omitting content. Isn’t that the whole point of a rating system in the first place, adult material sexual content, gore, blah blah gets slapped with an R rating. It fixes itself it would seem. I highly doubt there will be a stringent follow through of actually chopping content and if their is than better buckle up for some lawsuits as said content was created and distributed under standing laws etc. Censoring a cigar in a scene while gunning down five whiskey swilling hombres seems a little assbackwards and unlikely but we’ll see.
I noticed that smoking warning on Netflix has been around for a few months unless they are making even a bigger deal about it now.
I dunno man I had a helluva slow day at work so had a look. Cape Fear, Good the Bad and the Ugly and even something called ‘Rolling Papers’ and there was no sight of a smoking tag. Oddly Fear had a strong violence, language and suspense ??? but nothing else. Clint has his stogies and Rolling Papers just listed ‘substances and language’ but it was rated TV MA. I forgot how sadistic Cape Fear was btw, dude was sick.
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Spicoli
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walrus
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Spicoli
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El Kabong
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Spicoli
Well yeh the standard rating system warnings they do. As long as I can recall there’s been advisories for shows or movies on public air and sure they’ve added in as times change. Like I said I’d rather that than editing out or censoring movies. But that’s also been done for the longest. Studios often rework versions both for ‘public’ aka free commercial network vs an HBO or theater etc. As long as I can get the uncut version than as a consumer that’s where I’ll go. Do they really have warnings for smoking in movies?? Truth is I haven’t been to a theater in years but haven’t seen a warning for it on a Netflix or Hulu etc. I know they prohibit paid product placement for tobacco but unsure of a mandated warning.
Netflix to introduce smoking warnings to its ratings system
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...atings-system/
The Man With No Name is about to be slapped with a health warning. Netflix is to add smoking to its online rating system, listing it alongside scenes of sex and violence.
Classic films that will be branded for their tobacco content include The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, in which Clint Eastwood is rarely seen without a cigarillo between his lips.
All future films made by Netflix will omit smoking unless the writer and director can prove it is “essential to the creative vision” of the project. A remake of Sergio Leone’s spaghetti western would be unlikely to feature Eastwood drawling: “After a meal, there’s nothing like a good cigar.”
From Princess Margaret in The Crown to Don Draper in Mad Men, Kristin Scott Thomas in Four Weddings and a Funeral to Renee Zellweger in Bridget Jones’s Diary, some of film and television’s most memorable characters have a cigarette in their hand.
All will merit smoking warnings under new rules announced yesterday(7/3/19) by the US streaming service, along with a ban on smoking in all new content (a TV-14 or below rating for television, PG-13 or below for film) aimed at young people except “for reasons of historical or factual accuracy”.
Higher-rated projects will only include smoking if it is “essential to the creative vision of the artist or because it’s character-defining (historically or culturally important).”
All I'm saying is allow artists to create art.
Yeh now ya see that’s just dumb. I can see a line affixed to the general rating system as passable but no go at all at omitting content. Isn’t that the whole point of a rating system in the first place, adult material sexual content, gore, blah blah gets slapped with an R rating. It fixes itself it would seem. I highly doubt there will be a stringent follow through of actually chopping content and if their is than better buckle up for some lawsuits as said content was created and distributed under standing laws etc. Censoring a cigar in a scene while gunning down five whiskey swilling hombres seems a little assbackwards and unlikely but we’ll see.
I noticed that smoking warning on Netflix has been around for a few months unless they are making even a bigger deal about it now.
I dunno man I had a helluva slow day at work so had a look. Cape Fear, Good the Bad and the Ugly and even something called ‘Rolling Papers’ and there was no sight of a smoking tag. Oddly Fear had a strong violence, language and suspense ??? but nothing else. Clint has his stogies and Rolling Papers just listed ‘substances and language’ but it was rated TV MA. I forgot how sadistic Cape Fear was btw, dude was sick.
I can’t comment on cape fear as I didn’t watch it on Netflix but I watched a documentary and one of the warnings was smoking. It was a documentary on innocent people who did a bunch a jail time. By the way you should watch the original cape fear if you haven’t yet, good stuff.
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walrus
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Spicoli
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walrus
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Spicoli
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El Kabong
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Spicoli
Well yeh the standard rating system warnings they do. As long as I can recall there’s been advisories for shows or movies on public air and sure they’ve added in as times change. Like I said I’d rather that than editing out or censoring movies. But that’s also been done for the longest. Studios often rework versions both for ‘public’ aka free commercial network vs an HBO or theater etc. As long as I can get the uncut version than as a consumer that’s where I’ll go. Do they really have warnings for smoking in movies?? Truth is I haven’t been to a theater in years but haven’t seen a warning for it on a Netflix or Hulu etc. I know they prohibit paid product placement for tobacco but unsure of a mandated warning.
Netflix to introduce smoking warnings to its ratings system
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...atings-system/
The Man With No Name is about to be slapped with a health warning. Netflix is to add smoking to its online rating system, listing it alongside scenes of sex and violence.
Classic films that will be branded for their tobacco content include The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, in which Clint Eastwood is rarely seen without a cigarillo between his lips.
All future films made by Netflix will omit smoking unless the writer and director can prove it is “essential to the creative vision” of the project. A remake of Sergio Leone’s spaghetti western would be unlikely to feature Eastwood drawling: “After a meal, there’s nothing like a good cigar.”
From Princess Margaret in The Crown to Don Draper in Mad Men, Kristin Scott Thomas in Four Weddings and a Funeral to Renee Zellweger in Bridget Jones’s Diary, some of film and television’s most memorable characters have a cigarette in their hand.
All will merit smoking warnings under new rules announced yesterday(7/3/19) by the US streaming service, along with a ban on smoking in all new content (a TV-14 or below rating for television, PG-13 or below for film) aimed at young people except “for reasons of historical or factual accuracy”.
Higher-rated projects will only include smoking if it is “essential to the creative vision of the artist or because it’s character-defining (historically or culturally important).”
All I'm saying is allow artists to create art.
Yeh now ya see that’s just dumb. I can see a line affixed to the general rating system as passable but no go at all at omitting content. Isn’t that the whole point of a rating system in the first place, adult material sexual content, gore, blah blah gets slapped with an R rating. It fixes itself it would seem. I highly doubt there will be a stringent follow through of actually chopping content and if their is than better buckle up for some lawsuits as said content was created and distributed under standing laws etc. Censoring a cigar in a scene while gunning down five whiskey swilling hombres seems a little assbackwards and unlikely but we’ll see.
I noticed that smoking warning on Netflix has been around for a few months unless they are making even a bigger deal about it now.
I dunno man I had a helluva slow day at work so had a look. Cape Fear, Good the Bad and the Ugly and even something called ‘Rolling Papers’ and there was no sight of a smoking tag. Oddly Fear had a strong violence, language and suspense ??? but nothing else. Clint has his stogies and Rolling Papers just listed ‘substances and language’ but it was rated TV MA. I forgot how sadistic Cape Fear was btw, dude was sick.
I can’t comment on cape fear as I didn’t watch it on Netflix but I watched a documentary and one of the warnings was smoking. It was a documentary on innocent people who did a bunch a jail time. By the way you should watch the original cape fear if you haven’t yet, good stuff.
Robert Mitchum was badass!
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El Kabong
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walrus
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Spicoli
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walrus
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Spicoli
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Well yeh the standard rating system warnings they do. As long as I can recall there’s been advisories for shows or movies on public air and sure they’ve added in as times change. Like I said I’d rather that than editing out or censoring movies. But that’s also been done for the longest. Studios often rework versions both for ‘public’ aka free commercial network vs an HBO or theater etc. As long as I can get the uncut version than as a consumer that’s where I’ll go. Do they really have warnings for smoking in movies?? Truth is I haven’t been to a theater in years but haven’t seen a warning for it on a Netflix or Hulu etc. I know they prohibit paid product placement for tobacco but unsure of a mandated warning.
Netflix to introduce smoking warnings to its ratings system
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...atings-system/
The Man With No Name is about to be slapped with a health warning. Netflix is to add smoking to its online rating system, listing it alongside scenes of sex and violence.
Classic films that will be branded for their tobacco content include The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, in which Clint Eastwood is rarely seen without a cigarillo between his lips.
All future films made by Netflix will omit smoking unless the writer and director can prove it is “essential to the creative vision” of the project. A remake of Sergio Leone’s spaghetti western would be unlikely to feature Eastwood drawling: “After a meal, there’s nothing like a good cigar.”
From Princess Margaret in The Crown to Don Draper in Mad Men, Kristin Scott Thomas in Four Weddings and a Funeral to Renee Zellweger in Bridget Jones’s Diary, some of film and television’s most memorable characters have a cigarette in their hand.
All will merit smoking warnings under new rules announced yesterday(7/3/19) by the US streaming service, along with a ban on smoking in all new content (a TV-14 or below rating for television, PG-13 or below for film) aimed at young people except “for reasons of historical or factual accuracy”.
Higher-rated projects will only include smoking if it is “essential to the creative vision of the artist or because it’s character-defining (historically or culturally important).”
All I'm saying is allow artists to create art.
Yeh now ya see that’s just dumb. I can see a line affixed to the general rating system as passable but no go at all at omitting content. Isn’t that the whole point of a rating system in the first place, adult material sexual content, gore, blah blah gets slapped with an R rating. It fixes itself it would seem. I highly doubt there will be a stringent follow through of actually chopping content and if their is than better buckle up for some lawsuits as said content was created and distributed under standing laws etc. Censoring a cigar in a scene while gunning down five whiskey swilling hombres seems a little assbackwards and unlikely but we’ll see.
I noticed that smoking warning on Netflix has been around for a few months unless they are making even a bigger deal about it now.
I dunno man I had a helluva slow day at work so had a look. Cape Fear, Good the Bad and the Ugly and even something called ‘Rolling Papers’ and there was no sight of a smoking tag. Oddly Fear had a strong violence, language and suspense ??? but nothing else. Clint has his stogies and Rolling Papers just listed ‘substances and language’ but it was rated TV MA. I forgot how sadistic Cape Fear was btw, dude was sick.
I can’t comment on cape fear as I didn’t watch it on Netflix but I watched a documentary and one of the warnings was smoking. It was a documentary on innocent people who did a bunch a jail time. By the way you should watch the original cape fear if you haven’t yet, good stuff.
Robert Mitchum was badass!
And Gregory Peck kicks some serious ass they were both great actors I have to say I prefer the original but I’m partial to the classics anyway
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Re: Sky Race Warnings on movies
Original Scarface is fucking mint!
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Original Scarface is fucking mint!
I like modern movies. They make plenty of good ones but something about the old classics where they relied less on effects and camera work and more on the story I just really love that old shit. I’m watching I’ll cry tomorrow with Susan Haywood right now, don’t know if I’ll watch the whole thing but it’s looking good.
You ever read about Hedy Lamarr, the old time actress and her involvement in WW2. Its quite amazing she was a genius, smoking hot genius.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smith...-fi-180971584/
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Originally Posted by
walrus
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Original Scarface is fucking mint!
I like modern movies. They make plenty of good ones but something about the old classics where they relied less on effects and camera work and more on the story I just really love that old shit. I’m watching I’ll cry tomorrow with Susan Haywood right now, don’t know if I’ll watch the whole thing but it’s looking good.
You ever read about Hedy Lamarr, the old time actress and her involvement in WW2. Its quite amazing she was a genius, smoking hot genius.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smith...-fi-180971584/
Read about her? She's in the film version of my favorite Steinbeck novel! 'Tortilla Flat'
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Re: Sky Race Warnings on movies
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Quote:
Originally Posted by
walrus
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Original Scarface is fucking mint!
I like modern movies. They make plenty of good ones but something about the old classics where they relied less on effects and camera work and more on the story I just really love that old shit. I’m watching I’ll cry tomorrow with Susan Haywood right now, don’t know if I’ll watch the whole thing but it’s looking good.
You ever read about Hedy Lamarr, the old time actress and her involvement in WW2. Its quite amazing she was a genius, smoking hot genius.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smith...-fi-180971584/
Read about her? She's in the film version of my favorite Steinbeck novel! 'Tortilla Flat'
Damn she was incredibly beautiful. Obviously she had a type of brilliance beyond the norm. Betty Davis I really like as an actress but I never really saw her as beautiful as Lamarr, Hepburn and many other of those beauties back then. Great actress though.
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Re: Sky Race Warnings on movies
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Originally Posted by
Mark TKO
Do I have to be making a point?
I was highlighting the warnings sky were putting on their movies if you read the fucking post.
Did I say you could no longer watch.
Started down a path that will see more films than not needing a warning
I read the post but the immediate knee jerk over reaction of most was to assert that everything was being banned. Even you said 'everything has gone to fuck.'
What is really insane is pointing out people being tortured and imprisoned (including British Citizens) for refusing to censor stories etc and being told to shut up you SJW snowflake, and then those same people bursting into tears and stamping their feet over a warning before a bloody film ffs.
What a bunch of soft lads. Seriously lame.
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Re: Sky Race Warnings on movies
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Originally Posted by
walrus
Quote:
Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
walrus
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
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Originally Posted by
walrus
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Well yeh the standard rating system warnings they do. As long as I can recall there’s been advisories for shows or movies on public air and sure they’ve added in as times change. Like I said I’d rather that than editing out or censoring movies. But that’s also been done for the longest. Studios often rework versions both for ‘public’ aka free commercial network vs an HBO or theater etc. As long as I can get the uncut version than as a consumer that’s where I’ll go. Do they really have warnings for smoking in movies?? Truth is I haven’t been to a theater in years but haven’t seen a warning for it on a Netflix or Hulu etc. I know they prohibit paid product placement for tobacco but unsure of a mandated warning.
Netflix to introduce smoking warnings to its ratings system
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...atings-system/
The Man With No Name is about to be slapped with a health warning. Netflix is to add smoking to its online rating system, listing it alongside scenes of sex and violence.
Classic films that will be branded for their tobacco content include The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, in which Clint Eastwood is rarely seen without a cigarillo between his lips.
All future films made by Netflix will omit smoking unless the writer and director can prove it is “essential to the creative vision” of the project. A remake of Sergio Leone’s spaghetti western would be unlikely to feature Eastwood drawling: “After a meal, there’s nothing like a good cigar.”
From Princess Margaret in The Crown to Don Draper in Mad Men, Kristin Scott Thomas in Four Weddings and a Funeral to Renee Zellweger in Bridget Jones’s Diary, some of film and television’s most memorable characters have a cigarette in their hand.
All will merit smoking warnings under new rules announced yesterday(7/3/19) by the US streaming service, along with a ban on smoking in all new content (a TV-14 or below rating for television, PG-13 or below for film) aimed at young people except “for reasons of historical or factual accuracy”.
Higher-rated projects will only include smoking if it is “essential to the creative vision of the artist or because it’s character-defining (historically or culturally important).”
All I'm saying is allow artists to create art.
Yeh now ya see that’s just dumb. I can see a line affixed to the general rating system as passable but no go at all at omitting content. Isn’t that the whole point of a rating system in the first place, adult material sexual content, gore, blah blah gets slapped with an R rating. It fixes itself it would seem. I highly doubt there will be a stringent follow through of actually chopping content and if their is than better buckle up for some lawsuits as said content was created and distributed under standing laws etc. Censoring a cigar in a scene while gunning down five whiskey swilling hombres seems a little assbackwards and unlikely but we’ll see.
I noticed that smoking warning on Netflix has been around for a few months unless they are making even a bigger deal about it now.
I dunno man I had a helluva slow day at work so had a look. Cape Fear, Good the Bad and the Ugly and even something called ‘Rolling Papers’ and there was no sight of a smoking tag. Oddly Fear had a strong violence, language and suspense ??? but nothing else. Clint has his stogies and Rolling Papers just listed ‘substances and language’ but it was rated TV MA. I forgot how sadistic Cape Fear was btw, dude was sick.
I can’t comment on cape fear as I didn’t watch it on Netflix but I watched a documentary and one of the warnings was smoking. It was a documentary on innocent people who did a bunch a jail time. By the way you should watch the original cape fear if you haven’t yet, good stuff.
Robert Mitchum was badass!
And Gregory Peck kicks some serious ass they were both great actors I have to say I prefer the original but I’m partial to the classics anyway
Robert De Niro did not do a bad job in the remake. Very sinister.
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Re: Sky Race Warnings on movies
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
walrus
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
walrus
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
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Originally Posted by
walrus
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Well yeh the standard rating system warnings they do. As long as I can recall there’s been advisories for shows or movies on public air and sure they’ve added in as times change. Like I said I’d rather that than editing out or censoring movies. But that’s also been done for the longest. Studios often rework versions both for ‘public’ aka free commercial network vs an HBO or theater etc. As long as I can get the uncut version than as a consumer that’s where I’ll go. Do they really have warnings for smoking in movies?? Truth is I haven’t been to a theater in years but haven’t seen a warning for it on a Netflix or Hulu etc. I know they prohibit paid product placement for tobacco but unsure of a mandated warning.
Netflix to introduce smoking warnings to its ratings system
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...atings-system/
The Man With No Name is about to be slapped with a health warning. Netflix is to add smoking to its online rating system, listing it alongside scenes of sex and violence.
Classic films that will be branded for their tobacco content include The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, in which Clint Eastwood is rarely seen without a cigarillo between his lips.
All future films made by Netflix will omit smoking unless the writer and director can prove it is “essential to the creative vision” of the project. A remake of Sergio Leone’s spaghetti western would be unlikely to feature Eastwood drawling: “After a meal, there’s nothing like a good cigar.”
From Princess Margaret in The Crown to Don Draper in Mad Men, Kristin Scott Thomas in Four Weddings and a Funeral to Renee Zellweger in Bridget Jones’s Diary, some of film and television’s most memorable characters have a cigarette in their hand.
All will merit smoking warnings under new rules announced yesterday(7/3/19) by the US streaming service, along with a ban on smoking in all new content (a TV-14 or below rating for television, PG-13 or below for film) aimed at young people except “for reasons of historical or factual accuracy”.
Higher-rated projects will only include smoking if it is “essential to the creative vision of the artist or because it’s character-defining (historically or culturally important).”
All I'm saying is allow artists to create art.
Yeh now ya see that’s just dumb. I can see a line affixed to the general rating system as passable but no go at all at omitting content. Isn’t that the whole point of a rating system in the first place, adult material sexual content, gore, blah blah gets slapped with an R rating. It fixes itself it would seem. I highly doubt there will be a stringent follow through of actually chopping content and if their is than better buckle up for some lawsuits as said content was created and distributed under standing laws etc. Censoring a cigar in a scene while gunning down five whiskey swilling hombres seems a little assbackwards and unlikely but we’ll see.
I noticed that smoking warning on Netflix has been around for a few months unless they are making even a bigger deal about it now.
I dunno man I had a helluva slow day at work so had a look. Cape Fear, Good the Bad and the Ugly and even something called ‘Rolling Papers’ and there was no sight of a smoking tag. Oddly Fear had a strong violence, language and suspense ??? but nothing else. Clint has his stogies and Rolling Papers just listed ‘substances and language’ but it was rated TV MA. I forgot how sadistic Cape Fear was btw, dude was sick.
I can’t comment on cape fear as I didn’t watch it on Netflix but I watched a documentary and one of the warnings was smoking. It was a documentary on innocent people who did a bunch a jail time. By the way you should watch the original cape fear if you haven’t yet, good stuff.
Robert Mitchum was badass!
And Gregory Peck kicks some serious ass they were both great actors I have to say I prefer the original but I’m partial to the classics anyway
Robert De Niro did not do a bad job in the remake. Very sinister.
Both great films. Used to have them as a bundled box set. Nick Nolte is hugely underrated and is fantastic in the remake. Check out Scorceses 'Life Lessons' a short with Nolte as a painter.
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Re: Sky Race Warnings on movies
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mark TKO
Do I have to be making a point?
I was highlighting the warnings sky were putting on their movies if you read the fucking post.
Did I say you could no longer watch.
Started down a path that will see more films than not needing a warning
I read the post but the immediate knee jerk over reaction of most was to assert that everything was being banned. Even you said 'everything has gone to fuck.'
What is really insane is pointing out people being tortured and imprisoned (including British Citizens) for refusing to censor stories etc and being told to shut up you SJW snowflake, and then those same people bursting into tears and stamping their feet over a warning before a bloody film ffs.
What a bunch of soft lads. Seriously lame.
What utter utter bullshit. Literally no one said anything was being banned.
You're outraged over outrage that doesn't exist. You've invented an argument to make an completely redundant point.
If you read anything other than 'these warnings are a bit daft' into the opening post then you got it wrong. Intentionally by the sounds of it.
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U
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mark TKO
Do I have to be making a point?
I was highlighting the warnings sky were putting on their movies if you read the fucking post.
Did I say you could no longer watch.
Started down a path that will see more films than not needing a warning
I read the post but the immediate knee jerk over reaction of most was to assert that everything was being banned. Even you said 'everything has gone to fuck.'
What is really insane is pointing out people being tortured and imprisoned (including British Citizens) for refusing to censor stories etc and being told to shut up you SJW snowflake, and then those same people bursting into tears and stamping their feet over a warning before a bloody film ffs.
What a bunch of soft lads. Seriously lame.
Way off the mark Beanz. I was saying how ridiculous it was - warnings when not needed. That some can’t even understand.
Did you often read an exam question at school then respond to something totally different ?
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Easy to confuse the word warnings and banned I guess :rolleyes:
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Re: Sky Race Warnings on movies
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Beanz
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mark TKO
Do I have to be making a point?
I was highlighting the warnings sky were putting on their movies if you read the fucking post.
Did I say you could no longer watch.
Started down a path that will see more films than not needing a warning
I read the post but the immediate knee jerk over reaction of most was to assert that everything was being banned. Even you said 'everything has gone to fuck.'
What is really insane is pointing out people being tortured and imprisoned (including British Citizens) for refusing to censor stories etc and being told to shut up you SJW snowflake, and then those same people bursting into tears and stamping their feet over a warning before a bloody film ffs.
What a bunch of soft lads. Seriously lame.
It is a slippery slope. It starts gentle but with society as it is it can get bad fast.
My wife likes Breakfast at Tiffany's. I said to her yesterday are you offended by the fake Asian man? She rolled her eyes and said 'Of course not. It is just comedic caricature.' Completely true, but in the West just RACISM! RACISM! Volume down please!
If nobody is offended then why even bother? And if people are offended then why are they so fragile? It has been fine for 50 years. What happened?
What are you even moaning about? Aren't you the king of the ignore button and still ranting about things people apologized for yonks ago?
Crikey.
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Re: Sky Race Warnings on movies
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Originally Posted by
Memphis
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Beanz
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mark TKO
Do I have to be making a point?
I was highlighting the warnings sky were putting on their movies if you read the fucking post.
Did I say you could no longer watch.
Started down a path that will see more films than not needing a warning
I read the post but the immediate knee jerk over reaction of most was to assert that everything was being banned. Even you said 'everything has gone to fuck.'
What is really insane is pointing out people being tortured and imprisoned (including British Citizens) for refusing to censor stories etc and being told to shut up you SJW snowflake, and then those same people bursting into tears and stamping their feet over a warning before a bloody film ffs.
What a bunch of soft lads. Seriously lame.
What utter utter bullshit. Literally no one said anything was being banned.
You're outraged over outrage that doesn't exist. You've invented an argument to make an completely redundant point.
If you read anything other than 'these warnings are a bit daft' into the opening post then you got it wrong. Intentionally by the sounds of it.
Here we go. I am not outraged. Why would i be outraged by a load of middle aged blokes wanting to cry into their breakfast? You are full of shit mate.
if you think
"Burn it all down, just fuck everything" El Kabong
"Insane... the world is fucked" Mark TKO
"Movie Massacre" Tittyfan
"This is what happens when you start censoring free speech" Bruce Icke TIC
"I'm gonna miss "Trading Places" - TittyFan
"That may not be book burning, but it is certainly tearing out several pages 'for your own good'. This is a Communist/Fascist slippery slope." - Gladys
are examples of nobody being outraged or saying anything is being banned, then it seems you are the one inventing an argument to make a completely redundant point.
I did not misread Mark's Opening post. I just assume it was a given that most people would agree a lot of the warnings were unnecessary or misguided. I try to think the best of my fellow man but i log on here and it is like a time machine of grumpy old farts from the 70's. Don't tell me that Blazing Saddles and Zulu were brought by Al with perfectly innocent intentions...ha! and then look at the outrage in some of the other replies, both Spicoli and Tittyfan were under the mistaken impression that some of the films were actually banned.
If anything it is funny for me to read El Kabong get on his moral high horse when the bloke would shoot you for using certain words, and has a least a thousand threads with bullet points explaining who and what he would liked banned in mind numbingly boring detail. Gladys the same. Those two are so proud of their anti-wokeness worn as a badge of pride, it makes you worry that they might be seriously dangerous if there was not some issue for them to express counter-outrage over every day.
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Yes, not even showing Little Britain which is soft stuff is the same as book burning. It hurts nobody and many more enjoy than are bothered by it. Always give people choice over nannying.
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Amazing how threads turn out.
The world is fucked - my opinion. And when threads like this go this way thats even more evidence it is.
I'm offended
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Re: Sky Race Warnings on movies
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Beanz
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Memphis
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Beanz
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mark TKO
Do I have to be making a point?
I was highlighting the warnings sky were putting on their movies if you read the fucking post.
Did I say you could no longer watch.
Started down a path that will see more films than not needing a warning
I read the post but the immediate knee jerk over reaction of most was to assert that everything was being banned. Even you said 'everything has gone to fuck.'
What is really insane is pointing out people being tortured and imprisoned (including British Citizens) for refusing to censor stories etc and being told to shut up you SJW snowflake, and then those same people bursting into tears and stamping their feet over a warning before a bloody film ffs.
What a bunch of soft lads. Seriously lame.
What utter utter bullshit. Literally no one said anything was being banned.
You're outraged over outrage that doesn't exist. You've invented an argument to make an completely redundant point.
If you read anything other than 'these warnings are a bit daft' into the opening post then you got it wrong. Intentionally by the sounds of it.
Here we go. I am not outraged. Why would i be outraged by a load of middle aged blokes wanting to cry into their breakfast? You are full of shit mate.
if you think
"Burn it all down, just fuck everything" El Kabong
"Insane... the world is fucked" Mark TKO
"Movie Massacre" Tittyfan
"This is what happens when you start censoring free speech" Bruce Icke TIC
"I'm gonna miss "Trading Places" - TittyFan
"That may not be book burning, but it is certainly tearing out several pages 'for your own good'. This is a Communist/Fascist slippery slope." - Gladys
are examples of nobody being outraged or saying anything is being banned, then it seems you are the one inventing an argument to make a completely redundant point.
I did not misread Mark's Opening post. I just assume it was a given that most people would agree a lot of the warnings were unnecessary or misguided. I try to think the best of my fellow man but i log on here and it is like a time machine of grumpy old farts from the 70's. Don't tell me that Blazing Saddles and Zulu were brought by Al with perfectly innocent intentions...ha! and then look at the outrage in some of the other replies, both Spicoli and Tittyfan were under the mistaken impression that some of the films were actually banned.
If anything it is funny for me to read El Kabong get on his moral high horse when the bloke would shoot you for using certain words, and has a least a thousand threads with bullet points explaining who and what he would liked banned in mind numbingly boring detail. Gladys the same. Those two are so proud of their anti-wokeness worn as a badge of pride, it makes you worry that they might be seriously dangerous if there was not some issue for them to express counter-outrage over every day.
And yet you seemingly get to decide who is outraged? But god forbid anyone accuse you of the same? No one is crying into anything beanz. You invented the whole thing out of sheer arrogance.
You've taken a completely harmless thread and handful of comments and turned it into something it never was, based on a lie.
This, is a lie
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I read the post but the immediate knee jerk over reaction of most was to assert that everything was being banned
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Re: Sky Race Warnings on movies
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
walrus
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
walrus
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Quote:
Originally Posted by
walrus
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Spicoli
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Well yeh the standard rating system warnings they do. As long as I can recall there’s been advisories for shows or movies on public air and sure they’ve added in as times change. Like I said I’d rather that than editing out or censoring movies. But that’s also been done for the longest. Studios often rework versions both for ‘public’ aka free commercial network vs an HBO or theater etc. As long as I can get the uncut version than as a consumer that’s where I’ll go. Do they really have warnings for smoking in movies?? Truth is I haven’t been to a theater in years but haven’t seen a warning for it on a Netflix or Hulu etc. I know they prohibit paid product placement for tobacco but unsure of a mandated warning.
Netflix to introduce smoking warnings to its ratings system
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...atings-system/
The Man With No Name is about to be slapped with a health warning. Netflix is to add smoking to its online rating system, listing it alongside scenes of sex and violence.
Classic films that will be branded for their tobacco content include The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, in which Clint Eastwood is rarely seen without a cigarillo between his lips.
All future films made by Netflix will omit smoking unless the writer and director can prove it is “essential to the creative vision” of the project. A remake of Sergio Leone’s spaghetti western would be unlikely to feature Eastwood drawling: “After a meal, there’s nothing like a good cigar.”
From Princess Margaret in The Crown to Don Draper in Mad Men, Kristin Scott Thomas in Four Weddings and a Funeral to Renee Zellweger in Bridget Jones’s Diary, some of film and television’s most memorable characters have a cigarette in their hand.
All will merit smoking warnings under new rules announced yesterday(7/3/19) by the US streaming service, along with a ban on smoking in all new content (a TV-14 or below rating for television, PG-13 or below for film) aimed at young people except “for reasons of historical or factual accuracy”.
Higher-rated projects will only include smoking if it is “essential to the creative vision of the artist or because it’s character-defining (historically or culturally important).”
All I'm saying is allow artists to create art.
Yeh now ya see that’s just dumb. I can see a line affixed to the general rating system as passable but no go at all at omitting content. Isn’t that the whole point of a rating system in the first place, adult material sexual content, gore, blah blah gets slapped with an R rating. It fixes itself it would seem. I highly doubt there will be a stringent follow through of actually chopping content and if their is than better buckle up for some lawsuits as said content was created and distributed under standing laws etc. Censoring a cigar in a scene while gunning down five whiskey swilling hombres seems a little assbackwards and unlikely but we’ll see.
I noticed that smoking warning on Netflix has been around for a few months unless they are making even a bigger deal about it now.
I dunno man I had a helluva slow day at work so had a look. Cape Fear, Good the Bad and the Ugly and even something called ‘Rolling Papers’ and there was no sight of a smoking tag. Oddly Fear had a strong violence, language and suspense ??? but nothing else. Clint has his stogies and Rolling Papers just listed ‘substances and language’ but it was rated TV MA. I forgot how sadistic Cape Fear was btw, dude was sick.
I can’t comment on cape fear as I didn’t watch it on Netflix but I watched a documentary and one of the warnings was smoking. It was a documentary on innocent people who did a bunch a jail time. By the way you should watch the original cape fear if you haven’t yet, good stuff.
Robert Mitchum was badass!
And Gregory Peck kicks some serious ass they were both great actors I have to say I prefer the original but I’m partial to the classics anyway
Robert De Niro did not do a bad job in the remake. Very sinister.
Didn’t mean to imply to remake is no good. Deniro and Nolte did excellent I’m just a bit more partial to the original. By the way Lawrence of Arabia was on Sunday here, what a great film. I missed the first hour or so didn’t see the warnings if they were added yet
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Re: Sky Race Warnings on movies
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Memphis
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Beanz
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Memphis
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Beanz
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mark TKO
Do I have to be making a point?
I was highlighting the warnings sky were putting on their movies if you read the fucking post.
Did I say you could no longer watch.
Started down a path that will see more films than not needing a warning
I read the post but the immediate knee jerk over reaction of most was to assert that everything was being banned. Even you said 'everything has gone to fuck.'
What is really insane is pointing out people being tortured and imprisoned (including British Citizens) for refusing to censor stories etc and being told to shut up you SJW snowflake, and then those same people bursting into tears and stamping their feet over a warning before a bloody film ffs.
What a bunch of soft lads. Seriously lame.
What utter utter bullshit. Literally no one said anything was being banned.
You're outraged over outrage that doesn't exist. You've invented an argument to make an completely redundant point.
If you read anything other than 'these warnings are a bit daft' into the opening post then you got it wrong. Intentionally by the sounds of it.
Here we go. I am not outraged. Why would i be outraged by a load of middle aged blokes wanting to cry into their breakfast? You are full of shit mate.
if you think
"Burn it all down, just fuck everything" El Kabong
"Insane... the world is fucked" Mark TKO
"Movie Massacre" Tittyfan
"This is what happens when you start censoring free speech" Bruce Icke TIC
"I'm gonna miss "Trading Places" - TittyFan
"That may not be book burning, but it is certainly tearing out several pages 'for your own good'. This is a Communist/Fascist slippery slope." - Gladys
are examples of nobody being outraged or saying anything is being banned, then it seems you are the one inventing an argument to make a completely redundant point.
I did not misread Mark's Opening post. I just assume it was a given that most people would agree a lot of the warnings were unnecessary or misguided. I try to think the best of my fellow man but i log on here and it is like a time machine of grumpy old farts from the 70's. Don't tell me that Blazing Saddles and Zulu were brought by Al with perfectly innocent intentions...ha! and then look at the outrage in some of the other replies, both Spicoli and Tittyfan were under the mistaken impression that some of the films were actually banned.
If anything it is funny for me to read El Kabong get on his moral high horse when the bloke would shoot you for using certain words, and has a least a thousand threads with bullet points explaining who and what he would liked banned in mind numbingly boring detail. Gladys the same. Those two are so proud of their anti-wokeness worn as a badge of pride, it makes you worry that they might be seriously dangerous if there was not some issue for them to express counter-outrage over every day.
And yet you seemingly get to decide who is outraged? But god forbid anyone accuse you of the same? No one is crying into anything beanz. You invented the whole thing out of sheer arrogance.
You've taken a completely harmless thread and handful of comments and turned it into something it never was, based on a lie.
This, is a lie
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I read the post but the immediate knee jerk over reaction of most was to assert that everything was being banned
Most? was that your issue? Surely you can't read the replies contained and not see that is what was being inferred. It's not court mate, its a forum.
I am personally judged to be outraged and angry in every post that i make (So much so, even you fall for it. ;D) so i can uinderstand why one should not jump to those conclusion.
But don't pretend that all these fellas quotes were just invented. That is literally what they said in order to either express their outrage, or the fact that they thought films were being banned.
So you have people saying 'I'm going to miss this film' and 'are any of these films actually banned?' and you are now pretending that i made it up?
You are just employing the very pendantry you are accusing me of.
I am not going to say 'Take a chill pill you furious outraged angry mad bastard' because that would be utter and complete bollocks but it is what you are doing now.
Are you seriously telling me you did not think any outrage was implied from GlamRolf and El Kabong comparing it to buck burning and claiming like Vivien Leigh "Burn it all down, just fuck everything"
You could hardly express outrage any more succinctly.
They should be on the stage.
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Dread to think what 'Buck Burning' is ;D
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@Beanz I would like to apologize personally to you, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry that I feel as though people are developed enough to enjoy entertainment without extra warnings added onto other warnings. I'm sorry I feel as though art (film included) should be allowed to be viewed without preparing people to brace for an assumed emotional impact. I apologize because I can understand and even appreciate satire and comedy. I was unaware that humorless bureaucrats knew better than me. You have truly opened my eyes to this, thank you.
May we all one day have the emotional intelligence quotient of Beanz here. We should be so lucky to open our eyes every morning and see naught but Nazis and Racists.
Sincerely,
El Kabong
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"Buck Burning" is definitely offensive and needs a warning. You think it's funny to burn an innocent animal? Disgrace. Flag it up.
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Started to watch The Sopranos from scratch the other day, funk me, it's hilarious how racist the characters are. Anyone with half a brain cell understands the joke is on the ignorant meatheads not the people being stereotyped.
We've got to a point where imbeciles feelings are more important than facts/knowledge/humour.
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Was talking about 80s straight to video classics on a facebook thread yesterday and just checked this one for nostalgic reasons.
Never knew the character of Chiun was played by a white guy.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089901/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0
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Do I have to be making a point?
I was highlighting the warnings sky were putting on their movies if you read the fucking post.
Did I say you could no longer watch.
Started down a path that will see more films than not needing a warning
I read the post but the immediate knee jerk over reaction of most was to assert that everything was being banned. Even you said 'everything has gone to fuck.'
What is really insane is pointing out people being tortured and imprisoned (including British Citizens) for refusing to censor stories etc and being told to shut up you SJW snowflake, and then those same people bursting into tears and stamping their feet over a warning before a bloody film ffs.
What a bunch of soft lads. Seriously lame.
What utter utter bullshit. Literally no one said anything was being banned.
You're outraged over outrage that doesn't exist. You've invented an argument to make an completely redundant point.
If you read anything other than 'these warnings are a bit daft' into the opening post then you got it wrong. Intentionally by the sounds of it.
Here we go. I am not outraged. Why would i be outraged by a load of middle aged blokes wanting to cry into their breakfast? You are full of shit mate.
if you think
"Burn it all down, just fuck everything" El Kabong
"Insane... the world is fucked" Mark TKO
"Movie Massacre" Tittyfan
"This is what happens when you start censoring free speech" Bruce Icke TIC
"I'm gonna miss "Trading Places" - TittyFan
"That may not be book burning, but it is certainly tearing out several pages 'for your own good'. This is a Communist/Fascist slippery slope." - Gladys
are examples of nobody being outraged or saying anything is being banned, then it seems you are the one inventing an argument to make a completely redundant point.
I did not misread Mark's Opening post. I just assume it was a given that most people would agree a lot of the warnings were unnecessary or misguided. I try to think the best of my fellow man but i log on here and it is like a time machine of grumpy old farts from the 70's. Don't tell me that Blazing Saddles and Zulu were brought by Al with perfectly innocent intentions...ha! and then look at the outrage in some of the other replies, both Spicoli and Tittyfan were under the mistaken impression that some of the films were actually banned.
If anything it is funny for me to read El Kabong get on his moral high horse when the bloke would shoot you for using certain words, and has a least a thousand threads with bullet points explaining who and what he would liked banned in mind numbingly boring detail. Gladys the same. Those two are so proud of their anti-wokeness worn as a badge of pride, it makes you worry that they might be seriously dangerous if there was not some issue for them to express counter-outrage over every day.
Cannot do all the quote select from mobile for some reason but Beanz mate I wasn’t thinking anything was banned other than Gone with the wind as pointed out. It was a rhetorical question hence running on about labels and editing.
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Beanz
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Originally Posted by
Memphis
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
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Originally Posted by
Memphis
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
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Originally Posted by
Mark TKO
Do I have to be making a point?
I was highlighting the warnings sky were putting on their movies if you read the fucking post.
Did I say you could no longer watch.
Started down a path that will see more films than not needing a warning
I read the post but the immediate knee jerk over reaction of most was to assert that everything was being banned. Even you said 'everything has gone to fuck.'
What is really insane is pointing out people being tortured and imprisoned (including British Citizens) for refusing to censor stories etc and being told to shut up you SJW snowflake, and then those same people bursting into tears and stamping their feet over a warning before a bloody film ffs.
What a bunch of soft lads. Seriously lame.
What utter utter bullshit. Literally no one said anything was being banned.
You're outraged over outrage that doesn't exist. You've invented an argument to make an completely redundant point.
If you read anything other than 'these warnings are a bit daft' into the opening post then you got it wrong. Intentionally by the sounds of it.
Here we go. I am not outraged. Why would i be outraged by a load of middle aged blokes wanting to cry into their breakfast? You are full of shit mate.
if you think
"Burn it all down, just fuck everything" El Kabong
"Insane... the world is fucked" Mark TKO
"Movie Massacre" Tittyfan
"This is what happens when you start censoring free speech" Bruce Icke TIC
"I'm gonna miss "Trading Places" - TittyFan
"That may not be book burning, but it is certainly tearing out several pages 'for your own good'. This is a Communist/Fascist slippery slope." - Gladys
are examples of nobody being outraged or saying anything is being banned, then it seems you are the one inventing an argument to make a completely redundant point.
I did not misread Mark's Opening post. I just assume it was a given that most people would agree a lot of the warnings were unnecessary or misguided. I try to think the best of my fellow man but i log on here and it is like a time machine of grumpy old farts from the 70's. Don't tell me that Blazing Saddles and Zulu were brought by Al with perfectly innocent intentions...ha! and then look at the outrage in some of the other replies, both Spicoli and Tittyfan were under the mistaken impression that some of the films were actually banned.
If anything it is funny for me to read El Kabong get on his moral high horse when the bloke would shoot you for using certain words, and has a least a thousand threads with bullet points explaining who and what he would liked banned in mind numbingly boring detail. Gladys the same. Those two are so proud of their anti-wokeness worn as a badge of pride, it makes you worry that they might be seriously dangerous if there was not some issue for them to express counter-outrage over every day.
And yet you seemingly get to decide who is outraged? But god forbid anyone accuse you of the same? No one is crying into anything beanz. You invented the whole thing out of sheer arrogance.
You've taken a completely harmless thread and handful of comments and turned it into something it never was, based on a lie.
This, is a lie
Quote:
I read the post but the immediate knee jerk over reaction of most was to assert that everything was being banned
Most? was that your issue? Surely you can't read the replies contained and not see that is what was being inferred. It's not court mate, its a forum.
No. I read the replies and by the looks of things, took them exactly as they were intended. A harmless 'isn't this daft' opening post and further isn't this daft comments. If anyone is inferring something, it's you.
I am personally judged to be outraged and angry in every post that i make (So much so, even you fall for it. ;D) so i can uinderstand why one should not jump to those conclusion.
I don't care about every post you make. I don't care if you're outraged or not. The point was very simple. If anyone is outraged, it's you.
But don't pretend that all these fellas quotes were just invented. That is literally what they said in order to either express their outrage, or the fact that they thought films were being banned.
"No films were banned during the making of this thread" And no one ever thought they were.
So you have people saying
'I'm going to miss this film' and
'are any of these films actually banned?' and you are now pretending that i made it up?
No. You didn't make up what people said. You just deliberately misconstrued it to make your point. You've now been told you got it wrong. Many times.
You are just employing the very pendantry you are accusing me of.
We'll agree to disagree.
I am not going to say
'Take a chill pill you furious outraged angry mad bastard' because that would be utter and complete bollocks but it is what you are doing now.
I'm really not.
Are you seriously telling me you did not think any outrage was implied from GlamRolf and El Kabong comparing it to buck burning and claiming like Vivien Leigh
"Burn it all down, just fuck everything"
No, I didn't. Not a single bit. It was faux outrage to further mock the daftness of the point of the opening post.
You could hardly express outrage any more succinctly.
They should be on the stage.
Hope this helps.