Robbery terrible result Barrett was gifted that win.☹️
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Robbery terrible result Barrett was gifted that win.☹️
Flashbacks to that Quigg entrance.
Thought Kiko had earned that win. Someone get the refs to rehab.
Not a lot of caution there.. Ha! Good first
Lara looks dangerous and wins the 1st round. Warrington looks slow.
Warrington let his hands go in round 2 and looks good but Lara looks cool and patient.
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Some nice inside exchanges in 2nd, both guys pretty hook happy!
Really interesting.
I've never seen Warrington hesitant to get inside and work. Lara is winging shots, but still unusual.
Probably a good idea to take this fight having been out for the extended period.
This Lara guy is very heavy handed. It’s not looking like a good choice of opponent all of a sudden.
Close 3rd round but Warrington nearly knocked out in the 4th. His legs are gone and should be finished for the 5th. Lara will take him out.
Amazingly Warrington survives the 5th, showing a lot of heart. It should be a matter of time for the stoppage.
Lara again with the short left hooks stood Warrington still.
That eye is going to cost him. He'd be wise to go all in with that power asap.
I do not know how Warrington is taking these hurtful and hard punches from Lara. That was a brutal 7th round beating.
Well this wasn't on the cards!!
Maybe the last fights scorecards wont overshadow the event after all!
Don't want to jinx anything..looks like Robert Williams and Steve Gray from the last fight are scoring this one too :peeker:. Lara needs to kick in the door. Oof that was rough. Tough out for Josh, didn't see that coming at all.
Lara really came in shape, didn't he?
Shiiiiiiiiit OVER
Lara pulls off an upset and brutally stops Warrington. If it went to the cards I bet they would have robbed Lara. Glad he got the stoppage.
Ironic. First time I don’t overlook Warrington and he gets KTFO! He’s got loads of heart, but Lara was just all wrong for him on the night.
Credit to Lara though, massive win for him and a very good fight to watch.Honestly though, his style isn’t conducive to going to the top . Very open swinging.
This fight is typical of the strange circumstances that Sport in general is operating .
Warrington thrives on the fans, probably gives him another 20%. Without it, he looked very different.
It’s been happening in football as well.
I love upsets but Lara almost looked apologetic in corner. 2021 upset of early on
Geezer should have been stopped in 3/4. He was let go whereas lara wouldn't have been.
The Covid upsets continue
Does Hearn now exist to provide Mexican and Mexican American fighters with British cannon ?
Time and time again everyone get's gassed on a boxer's "0"
I've always said there's too much hype around british fighters. You literally hear about them before they go pro. Warrington got a serious wakeup.. oops.. I mean a goodnight call.
Perfect example of a bird in the hand is better than one in this bush. Never give up your title for nothing, especially if the plan is to move up in weight when you can't crack an egg at your own weight and that's the weird thing about Warrington his style is a 100% a pressure fighter but he’s no heavy handed Triple G. It clearly worked at a high level for him though, just not elite.
Actually scratch that I don't think Lara's elite. He just beat someone who wasn’t as good as the hearniacs tried to make him out to be. No power at all and I have not even started on Howard Foster.
But well done Lara. This is the reason why a lot of these Mexican fighters aren’t babied early in there careers so what they may take an L or two but they’ll learn from it and be ready for the big ones
👆Cummon man, Warrington wasn't a hype job he had beaten some very good fighters who had beaten some very good non British fighters
I think maybe you have confused him with someone else?
Warrington as a light punching come forward fighter was always going to have limited shelf life at the top.
He has some good wins, however I thought he lost to Abdul Awad .
Pressure fighters often have limited time at the top , light punching ones more so.
He lost most of the rounds to kid galahad and was fortunate against kiko martinez
He did deserve to win against Selby and Frampton tho which can't be sniffed at
Don't think Warrington has ever been overhyped. He clearly works and worked very hard to get to where he did. Not a big puncher, that didn't stop him reaching the top of a maybe somewhat limited division.
As a sign of the lack of hype for Josh, I think he was underdog against Lee Selby and certainly was against Frampton, and I personally didn't pick him to win either of fights. Credit to him on those victories and I think it is quite rare that a fighter with such a small ko% becomes a world champion.
He may have come through a few close/lucky decisions also, against decent level fighters no less, it happens especially when he was the A side, with a pretty big following making him more marketable and profitable to the promoter!
Warrington looked flat and not himself from the first round. He was hooking with a hooker and that is dangerous. He should have been knocked out with that left hook but somehow survived.
Warrington's legs were gone and took a beating. Josh is the type of fighter that thrives on a crowd and he can come back from this.
14/1 for a 22-year-old Mexican with a 20-2 record and plenty of video footage. It's nothing to do with Warrington being overrated, it's "fans" (and thankfully bookies) underrating Lara. There's "no-names" and "no-names" in boxing, they aren't the same.
In reality pressure fighter like Josh have a limited shelf life in all honesty he didn't look like he wanted to be in their.!
Frankly his boxing and movement was terrible Hearns match making is very poor a young hungry guy that can punch against a World Champion that had not fought in 16 month Warrington looked staler than a two month old sliced loaf.
Is this the end of Warrington yes on that performance !
Dia Bando, you're not wrong at all.
But at the same time, let's call it what it is.
Lara could hit like hell, but not a whole pile else.
Lara is not (yet?) a world class fighter.
There wasn't a world class performance from either fighter last night.
when warrington was hurt he realized he needed to box and use the ring, and a little bit after that, he realized he never learned how.
I don't think that's true, this kid was supposed to come here get outboxed, take his money and go back home....It was the same kind of fight Eddie (and all other promoters) puts his fighters in 8 out of 10 fights....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
No one was talking about this dangerous banger from Mexico to be wary of before tonight. He'd never fought outside of South America and had a very mediocre record, but, granted a pretty high KO rate.
We've seen it time and again over the years where no-name fighter comes on over from a tough country, not a noted record, often never fought outside of their country, maybe with plenty of stoppage wins...but they are taken for granted. But they turn out to be tough bastards who can take a shot and throw a good dig back and it derails the fighter.
It happened numerous times over the years, usually with promising talents still working their way at domestic level, rather than on a world stage.
Like with Khan when Prescott blasted him out.
Derry Mathews promising early career obliterated by that Mongolian lad who fought out of the UK.
Kiki Martinez came over from Spain and leathered that Irish lad Bernard Dunne inside a round.
It's not necessarily bad match making...it happens!
there have been plenty more through the years but those are the ones off the top of my head and Warrington-Lara is in the same mould as this.
No, I have to agree with @Dia bando, it wasn’t very clever matchmaking, and I’ll tell you why.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonnnnUKI don't think that's true, this kid was supposed to come here get outboxed, take his money and go back home....It was the same kind of fight Eddie (and all other promoters) puts his fighters in 8 out of 10 fights....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
No one was talking about this dangerous banger from Mexico to be wary of before tonight. He'd never fought outside of South America and had a very mediocre record, but, granted a pretty high KO rate.
We've seen it time and again over the years where no-name fighter comes on over from a tough country, not a noted record, often never fought outside of their country, maybe with plenty of stoppage wins...but they are taken for granted. But they turn out to be tough bastards who can take a shot and throw a good dig back and it derails the fighter.
It happened numerous times over the years, usually with promising talents still working their way at domestic level, rather than on a world stage.
Like with Khan when Prescott blasted him out.
Derry Mathews promising early career obliterated by that Mongolian lad who fought out of the UK.
Kiki Martinez came over from Spain and leathered that Irish lad Bernard Dunne inside a round.
It's not necessarily bad match making...it happens!
there have been plenty more through the years but those are the ones off the top of my head and Warrington-Lara is in the same mould as this.
It’s not because Lara is a great fighter or could be a world champ, because I don’t think he can. He’s very open, very wild, he’ll get caught plenty by a top class boxer.
That sounds like I’m not giving credit to Lara, which isn’t the case, top marks to him, but I just feel he’ll come short.
The reasons it was poor matchmaking are that he had 5 fights in the last year, and his KO record shows he can bang.
Warrington’s strengths are all about energy and work rate, and with 16 months out of the ring, that is always going to be affected.
I still think the biggest factor is how much energy Warrington gets from his fans, but we can’t do anything about that.
Warrington has shot his bolt and is done and dusted.
If he knew how to actually box he'd still be relevant.
KO% of about 28% tops and just stands there like a slugger against a dogshit Mexican.
Always gonna come off second best.
He's done, let's move on 😎
Maybe we are not giving Lara credit but Warrington was absolutely terrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNo, I have to agree with @Dia bando, it wasn’t very clever matchmaking, and I’ll tell you why.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonnnnUKI don't think that's true, this kid was supposed to come here get outboxed, take his money and go back home....It was the same kind of fight Eddie (and all other promoters) puts his fighters in 8 out of 10 fights....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
No one was talking about this dangerous banger from Mexico to be wary of before tonight. He'd never fought outside of South America and had a very mediocre record, but, granted a pretty high KO rate.
We've seen it time and again over the years where no-name fighter comes on over from a tough country, not a noted record, often never fought outside of their country, maybe with plenty of stoppage wins...but they are taken for granted. But they turn out to be tough bastards who can take a shot and throw a good dig back and it derails the fighter.
It happened numerous times over the years, usually with promising talents still working their way at domestic level, rather than on a world stage.
Like with Khan when Prescott blasted him out.
Derry Mathews promising early career obliterated by that Mongolian lad who fought out of the UK.
Kiki Martinez came over from Spain and leathered that Irish lad Bernard Dunne inside a round.
It's not necessarily bad match making...it happens!
there have been plenty more through the years but those are the ones off the top of my head and Warrington-Lara is in the same mould as this.
It’s not because Lara is a great fighter or could be a world champ, because I don’t think he can. He’s very open, very wild, he’ll get caught plenty by a top class boxer.
That sounds like I’m not giving credit to Lara, which isn’t the case, top marks to him, but I just feel he’ll come short.
The reasons it was poor matchmaking are that he had 5 fights in the last year, and his KO record shows he can bang.
Warrington’s strengths are all about energy and work rate, and with 16 months out of the ring, that is always going to be affected.
I still think the biggest factor is how much energy Warrington gets from his fans, but we can’t do anything about that.
Hearn has put it down to ring rust boxing is about levels on Josh's performance he has dropped a few levels.
Would you say on that performance would you fancy him over any of the other champions in his division.?
Mexicans and South Americans regularly “upset” UK fighters if they are given a chance. It’s why UK fighters fight mostly Euro’s or other UK fighters. It’s a hell of a lot easier to carry a world title than to take on the worlds best fighters. Just look at the numbers, Mexicans can box.
I understand where you're coming from, but it's from a place of hindsight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNo, I have to agree with @Dia bando, it wasn’t very clever matchmaking, and I’ll tell you why.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonnnnUKI don't think that's true, this kid was supposed to come here get outboxed, take his money and go back home....It was the same kind of fight Eddie (and all other promoters) puts his fighters in 8 out of 10 fights....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
No one was talking about this dangerous banger from Mexico to be wary of before tonight. He'd never fought outside of South America and had a very mediocre record, but, granted a pretty high KO rate.
We've seen it time and again over the years where no-name fighter comes on over from a tough country, not a noted record, often never fought outside of their country, maybe with plenty of stoppage wins...but they are taken for granted. But they turn out to be tough bastards who can take a shot and throw a good dig back and it derails the fighter.
It happened numerous times over the years, usually with promising talents still working their way at domestic level, rather than on a world stage.
Like with Khan when Prescott blasted him out.
Derry Mathews promising early career obliterated by that Mongolian lad who fought out of the UK.
Kiki Martinez came over from Spain and leathered that Irish lad Bernard Dunne inside a round.
It's not necessarily bad match making...it happens!
there have been plenty more through the years but those are the ones off the top of my head and Warrington-Lara is in the same mould as this.
It’s not because Lara is a great fighter or could be a world champ, because I don’t think he can. He’s very open, very wild, he’ll get caught plenty by a top class boxer.
That sounds like I’m not giving credit to Lara, which isn’t the case, top marks to him, but I just feel he’ll come short.
The reasons it was poor matchmaking are that he had 5 fights in the last year, and his KO record shows he can bang.
Warrington’s strengths are all about energy and work rate, and with 16 months out of the ring, that is always going to be affected.
I still think the biggest factor is how much energy Warrington gets from his fans, but we can’t do anything about that.
So if Warrington had actually boxed smart, as he was expected to and ran out a 120-108 winner, would you be singing Hearns praises about what a brilliant match maker Eddie is? Or would you, like the majority of fans would (including me), be saying "why did they get this no-mark Mexican over for this waste of time? He had only fought other Mexican bums so he wasn't really a monster banger like his record suggests....".
Not sure Hearn, or Warrington himself were to know that he couldn't fight at pull peak after 16 months off. Or more, they probably did and this was supposed to be a walkover that has spectacularly backfired. On the 5 Live podcast Josh even suggested it wasn't until the last few weeks he had to "make this guy into a monster" in his head. So he was probably, absolutely underestimating him. Nor were they to know that unless he has 10,000 Leeds fans singing he would shit the bed either.
So in hindsight it was bad match making. Eddie should have known better and let Josh sit it out until fans are allowed back, and then got him in with UK fighter with a low KO ratio for his first fight back.
If he bowled Lara over, Naturally we’re not gonna say it was great matchmaking, because it’s a fundamental part of Hearn’s job to get it right.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonnnnUKI understand where you're coming from, but it's from a place of hindsight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNo, I have to agree with @Dia bando, it wasn’t very clever matchmaking, and I’ll tell you why.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonnnnUKI don't think that's true, this kid was supposed to come here get outboxed, take his money and go back home....It was the same kind of fight Eddie (and all other promoters) puts his fighters in 8 out of 10 fights....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bando
No one was talking about this dangerous banger from Mexico to be wary of before tonight. He'd never fought outside of South America and had a very mediocre record, but, granted a pretty high KO rate.
We've seen it time and again over the years where no-name fighter comes on over from a tough country, not a noted record, often never fought outside of their country, maybe with plenty of stoppage wins...but they are taken for granted. But they turn out to be tough bastards who can take a shot and throw a good dig back and it derails the fighter.
It happened numerous times over the years, usually with promising talents still working their way at domestic level, rather than on a world stage.
Like with Khan when Prescott blasted him out.
Derry Mathews promising early career obliterated by that Mongolian lad who fought out of the UK.
Kiki Martinez came over from Spain and leathered that Irish lad Bernard Dunne inside a round.
It's not necessarily bad match making...it happens!
there have been plenty more through the years but those are the ones off the top of my head and Warrington-Lara is in the same mould as this.
It’s not because Lara is a great fighter or could be a world champ, because I don’t think he can. He’s very open, very wild, he’ll get caught plenty by a top class boxer.
That sounds like I’m not giving credit to Lara, which isn’t the case, top marks to him, but I just feel he’ll come short.
The reasons it was poor matchmaking are that he had 5 fights in the last year, and his KO record shows he can bang.
Warrington’s strengths are all about energy and work rate, and with 16 months out of the ring, that is always going to be affected.
I still think the biggest factor is how much energy Warrington gets from his fans, but we can’t do anything about that.
So if Warrington had actually boxed smart, as he was expected to and ran out a 120-108 winner, would you be singing Hearns praises about what a brilliant match maker Eddie is? Or would you, like the majority of fans would (including me), be saying "why did they get this no-mark Mexican over for this waste of time? He had only fought other Mexican bums so he wasn't really a monster banger like his record suggests....".
Not sure Hearn, or Warrington himself were to know that he couldn't fight at pull peak after 16 months off. Or more, they probably did and this was supposed to be a walkover that has spectacularly backfired. On the 5 Live podcast Josh even suggested it wasn't until the last few weeks he had to "make this guy into a monster" in his head. So he was probably, absolutely underestimating him. Nor were they to know that unless he has 10,000 Leeds fans singing he would shit the bed either.
So in hindsight it was bad match making. Eddie should have known better and let Josh sit it out until fans are allowed back, and then got him in with UK fighter with a low KO ratio for his first fight back.
And I didn’t expect Warrington to box smart, he’s no Sugar Ray. He’s a pressure high volume fighter.
And I know records can look over inflated, buy 22-2 with 14 ko’s ? If that was a Brit’s record, they would be fighting for a World title.
Basically, decisions have been made, and now they have to get on with it.
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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson