Like Ramirez close 1st. Bayless issuing about 5 warnings for pushing on heads and feet to both.
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Like Ramirez close 1st. Bayless issuing about 5 warnings for pushing on heads and feet to both.
Taylor 2nd. Ramirez came on well over last minute.
Ramirez 3rd. Real strong start to Ramirez with Taylor along ropes. Taylor back well and Ramirez forces him to corner and stuffs to body and the head end of round.
Ramirez looks full of beans. Looks like he's overpowering Taylor at the minute. Great fight.
Taylor 4th, sharp head body. Both take breather ring center Taylor ties up. Body shot for Taylor..Bayles another warning to Taylor for pushing down head. Taylor rocked him with left end of round!
Slicing onions 5th. Not a metaphor. Ramirez down hard early 6th! Up and coming back.
Taylor 6th huge. Ref follows him to corner to warn him for something else. Refs should be maskless at this point.
Bayless did a good job of giving him a few extra seconds there. Was he going round the judges taking a sneaky point at the end of the round?
Taylor 7th. Left of Taylor on fire. Ramirez answers but step behind in sharpness..and he's down again. Hurt going to corner. The gap has widened. Brutal uppercut. Nice
Like Bayless but he's really over involving himself here. Ramirez blowing in the wind a bit now. Taylor master at the shoulder shove quick counterQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Feeling around 8-4 Taylor pretty comfortable after KD.
The pandemic hasn't been kind to Bayless. He's carrying a lot of extra timber these days. It's counterbalancing his stuck out arse nicely.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliLike Bayless but he's really over involving himself here. Ramirez blowing in the wind a bit now. Taylor master at the shoulder shove quick counterQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Ramirez actually recovered from those knockdowns and came on strong at the end. Taylor was struggling the last few rounds. If he hadn't got that second KD he would have been in trouble. I'd fancy Crawford to give him a boxing lesson if they do fight.
Agree on Crawford that natural size and switch hitting too much imo. Get Taylor on square heels he shuts down a bit. Had it wider than judges for sure, pretty much did what he wanted when he wanted with more impact. Hard to believe this is only the 6th time in the sport for all unification. Figure it'd be massive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingThe pandemic hasn't been kind to Bayless. He's carrying a lot of extra timber these days. It's counterbalancing his stuck out arse nicely.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliLike Bayless but he's really over involving himself here. Ramirez blowing in the wind a bit now. Taylor master at the shoulder shove quick counterQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Ramirez actually recovered from those knockdowns and came on strong at the end. Taylor was struggling the last few rounds. If he hadn't got that second KD he would have been in trouble. I'd fancy Crawford to give him a boxing lesson if they do fight.
louie screwed again. it's always worth watching him fightQuote:
Originally Posted by TIC
they were trying it on. those knockdowns saved josh from having his win stolenQuote:
Originally Posted by TIC
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Originally Posted by SpicoliAgree on Crawford that natural size and switch hitting too much imo. Get Taylor on square heels he shuts down a bit. Had it wider than judges for sure, pretty much did what he wanted when he wanted with more impact. Hard to believe this is only the 6th time in the sport for all unification. Figure it'd be massive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingThe pandemic hasn't been kind to Bayless. He's carrying a lot of extra timber these days. It's counterbalancing his stuck out arse nicely.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliLike Bayless but he's really over involving himself here. Ramirez blowing in the wind a bit now. Taylor master at the shoulder shove quick counterQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Ramirez actually recovered from those knockdowns and came on strong at the end. Taylor was struggling the last few rounds. If he hadn't got that second KD he would have been in trouble. I'd fancy Crawford to give him a boxing lesson if they do fight.
That came as a shock to me too. There have been so many big money earners in the four belt era operating in divisions where the other top guys couldn't draw flies you'd think the alphabet mobs would have been desperate to drape their belts on them just to make the big sanctioning fee.
Pretty close fight, didn't score it but I though Ramirez was actually on the way to bossing the fight until the first knockdown, looked like Taylor was pretty uncomfortable, he did great to get the knockdown and to be fair Ramirez did well to survive... He came on strong late on... Good fight and well done to Taylor it was closer than I thought it would be.
Great fight.
Bayliss was as usual a disgrace. Pompous fool who wants to make it all about him. Anything but neutral too.
I am not so sure that Taylor struggles with anyone, even Crawford. He fought brilliantly at times and Ramirez would have exposed any glaring flaws. It was never going to be a walk in the park and Taylor executed the gameplan brilliantly.
Can't believe how under the radar this fight has gone.
Already that puts Taylor right up there, even at this point in his career as a British great in my book.
Josh Taylor has an amazing record, he is already a British Great.
Probably the best Scottish fighter of all time.
Cards were clearly tilted for Ramirez before hand. 116-110 maybe. 114-112 was disgraceful (Actally I need to watch the fight bk again as I didn't score it)
I would assume that by now Kenny Bayliss has received enough brown envelopes to retire comfortably, or his officiating is simply no longer competent. I mean. He might as well as given Ramirez a pillow he give him that long to recover from both KD's
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As for Taylor's future ? PERSONALLY his style doesn’t suit above 147 to me.
There are some fking savages at 147 and I'm not even talking about Bud or Spence but Boots Ennis and Vergil Ortiz even Conor Benn would be a tough, tough fight for Taylor. That 7 pound jump is a gap too wide. I could be wrong but I see a Mickey Garcia type career at 147. Good but not a real player.
I'd like him to be that ONE WEIGHT BAD ASS like Marvin Hagler. There is Teo, Tank, Haney, Garcia who could all make the move up. Massive fights out there. But I get the feeling he will chase that mega fight against Bud. They're both in the same camp. So easy to make.
Bayliss is a disgrace he should be thrown out as an official, how slow does he count and how many times does he ask are you ok ?
As far as the score cards go I watched the fight, first round to last round
and i dont think they were that bad, taking away the knockdowns id agree with 6 rounds each
remirez started well and finished well, 2 points is a fair reflection of the fight
i wanted taylor to win and his boxing was very good at times, i just dont think he was doing enough in some rounds
Josh Taylor: The undisputed world champion on next steps & wedding plans
In the moments after his stunning triumph over Jose Ramirez in Las Vegas, Josh Taylor wondered if the historic victory would have resonated, or even registered, back home in Scotland.
The build-up to his bid to become undisputed world champion was dominated by talk of how a fight of this magnitude had not been given the exposure it deserved.
Taylor admitted before and after his points victory over Ramirez he was annoyed that none of the major TV networks elected to carry the bout in the UK.
But, when the Prestonpans fighter landed back on Scottish soil, he was quickly disabused of the notion that his feat of capturing all four light-welterweight world titles had gone under the radar.
"It's been crazy," Taylor tells BBC Scotland. "I didn't realise the effect because I was in Vegas with the eight-hour time difference, so I was tucked away in my little bubble.
"I didn't feel the effect of it until I got home and saw all the reports in the papers and on the news. I had been thinking, 'is it going to go unnoticed back home?', but everyone seems to be super proud and my phone is still going crazy.
"I came back to my hometown of Prestonpans. There were hundreds of people waiting for me outside my local pub, where I used to drink.
"Family, friends and friends of friends, loads of people in the area coming out to support me. There were people hanging out their windows and clapping. It was a little bit emotional. My two mates in the back of the car were wiping some tears away. It was nice, a pretty cool moment."
If Taylor really was boxing in the shadows up to this point in his career, the show he put on against Ramirez has propelled him firmly into the light.
Celebrated names such as Tyson Fury, Andre Ward and Joe Calzaghe were queuing up to offer their praise and congratulations on social media.
Ring Magazine has bumped Taylor up to number five on their prestigious pound-for-pound list of the world's best boxers across all the weight divisions - and he's not ready to stop there.
"I think I can go higher, I really do," he says. "I watched the fight when I got back home and, while I am very proud of my performance, I give myself a seven or eight out of 10.
"I still believe I can perform so much better. You've not seen the best of what I can do yet.
"I'm really not in the game to get all the accolades and recognition. I'm not interested in all that stuff. I started boxing because I wanted to win, to beat the best and be the best.
"All the other fighters on that list are absolutely amazing. I'm honoured to even be on the list. I'm just thinking, 'Wow! How am I being talked about as pound-for-pound top five, top three? It's just surreal."
If the win over Ramirez was a career high for Taylor, it was a triumph too for his trainer, Ben Davison.
"He's all right for a personal trainer!" says Taylor. "That's what people keep saying about him on social media. He gets a lot of disrespect put on his name just because he sort of came out the blue and was working with Tyson Fury.
"But he worked with Tyson Fury because he's got a very good knowledge and understanding of the sport. He is one of the best coaches in the game.
"It's turned into a really good friendship as well. It's proved to be the best decision I ever made and I can't give him enough praise."
While the relationship with Davison is still in its infancy, Terry McCormack has been with Taylor on every step of his journey, right back to his early days at Lochend Boxing Club. Perhaps the most powerful images in the post-fight celebrations were of the embrace between Taylor and McCormack.
"Terry is just a diamond, he's one in a million," Taylor says. "He's a mentor to me, a psychologist, a friend, a dad, he's everything all rolled into one big, ugly, hairy man! He just means a lot to me.
"He's been there through so much, times in my life when I've been down about things. I had no money growing up when I was coming through. I was getting paid off from jobs and Terry would give me money to put petrol in my car.
"When things were down, I could tell him things, all my troubles. He's just been there for me, he's been a real solid for me and I've got so much love for the man."
'Wedding & stag plans take priority now'
In the aftermath of becoming just the fifth man in history to clean up all four belts in a single weight division, Taylor's name is being lobbed in with some of boxing's global icons for potential future bouts.
The Tartan Tornado said himself he would like a crack at Terence Crawford, the American superstar and three-weight world champion.
Crawford would present an enormous challenge but also an opportunity for a legacy-defining fight. So too would Teofimo Lopez. The conqueror of the great Vasyl Lomachenko, Lopez has said in the past few days he's ready to step up from 135lbs to challenge Taylor. It's another mouthwatering proposition.
But, as we salivate at the prospect of these fantasy fights, the next date in Taylor's diary may have nothing at all to do with boxing.
"I've been told by my fiancée, Danielle, that we have to go and look at wedding stuff," he reveals. "I think boxing is going to have to be put to the back of the head.
"I need to sort my stag do as well. Knowing me and what I've had to do my whole life so far, I'll probably miss it because I'll be in training. I need to sort that out and everything else that goes along with the wedding. I think Danielle will be pushing me to get busy with that."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/57296142
Great great performance by Taylor, against an excellent opponent.
It is genuinely a travesty that Mayweather v Paul got more coverage than this unification fight between two prime elite performers.
Taylor has that typical classic Scottish style ..... a teak tough, well conditioned stand up boxer with great fundamentals and decent power.
He has already mentioned his hero, Ken Buchanan, who he stylistically resembles - but there is also Jim Watt, Scott Harrison and Ricky Burns who all had that style too.
For the first 4 rounds I thought Taylor was awkward and off balance when he threw his power left hand, until I realised that by not twisting his body while throwing it, he was doing a brilliant job disguising it so Ramirez couldn’t see it coming.
Josh Taylor: Lucrative fights at 'sexy' welterweight a lure for undisputed champion
Undisputed world champion Josh Taylor says he has "big-money fights" in the "sexy" welterweight division in his sights as he plots his next moves.
The Scot's unanimous points win over Jose Ramirez in Las Vegas last month made him the first British fighter to hold all four belts in any division.
Taylor, 30, says he has "lots of options" at both light-welterweight and the higher weight grade.
"I have to decide soon," he told BBC Scotland's Euros Breakfast Show.
"The ball's in my court but I can't take too much time because all the sanctioning bodies are going to start ordering me to fight the mandatory challengers. If I don't fight them, I'll get stripped of titles.
"I would like to go up and have the really big fights against Terrence Crawford, Errol Spence, my hero Manny Pacquiao and guys like that.
"They are real big fights and I call the 147 welterweight 'the sexy division'. It's a huge, deeply talented division.
"They are big-money fights as well, I'm coming to that point in my career now where I've worked hard so should get rewarded for it."
England's Jack Catterall, who is undefeated in 26 bouts, is the mandatory challenger for the WBO belt and likely to be Taylor's next opponent.
"I have a few good fights at 140 as well," added Taylor, whose record stands at 18-0.
"I have my mandatory with Jack Catterall from Manchester coming up, I've got that option too.
"So I'm in a good position. I've got all the cards and a good hand. I'll make the right decision when I'm ready."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/57484464