Why Do Trump Supporters Refuse To Discuss QAnon's Involvement on Jan 6th?

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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell

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Originally Posted by SlimTrae

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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell

So you want me to admit that if that WAS a "coup", that it failed? OK I admit, if that WAS a "coup" then it failed. I have no problem saying that. DId it fail BECAUSE of Trump? Dont see how he was directing or managing or conducting the "coup", even you said he just walked away and went home. So if the "coup" failed, it failed because they didnt do it right. It failed because THEY (the people who went in like amateur, sophomoric, Viking-dressed idiots) didnt do it right.

Who is disputing that?

Again, a few dozen Brooklyn Italians, yeah..... we'd get that shit done. Then when it succeeded, just curious, what would you say then?

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This is the title of the thread: Why Do Trump Supporters Refuse To Discuss QAnon's Involvement on Jan 6th?

It isn't complicated.


You took it to coup, I didnt. you decided to post without mentioning Qanon.
And I didnt admit Trump walked away- That's playing semantics...he walked away after doing what? After telling people to go...and do what? Be forceful is what he said.

I can post it here...him saying that, but you chose to view it from your perspective, not from the basis of this thread- Why Do Trump Supporters Refuse To Discuss QAnon's Involvement on Jan 6th?


Had he not told them Be there...be wild... would they have showed up? WHy did he say it would be wild...if it was a peaceful protest.

When he gave his speech, had he not told them- go walk down there...would they have walked down there on their own?

And again- we witnessed for 2 hours our state capital attacked, and we diminished it because they weren't men enough, crazy enough to finish the job- so that becomes the issue? Nothing lost, because only 100 cops were hurt and only 2 died..so no reason to initiate a discussion on that.



Every question I wrote was rhetorical, please dont answer them now, you are smart enough to know how to have responded, you chose not to.
You ask questions not relevant to this topic, because again you chose to view it- almost like Republican Ron Johnson who said it wasnt a major...because it wasnt BLM or Antifa.

If I ignored Qanon, ignored every person I posted of their videos- being arrested, I too would think similar, but I didn't. I listened to each of them. I looked at who the FBI arrested days after cause no one was given the order to do their job that fateful day. They were pro trump. They were Qanon, Oathkeepers and a few others...point is- none of them stated they were Anti Trump, they were pro trump. You chose not view them -hear them.

I chose to understand who they were, why they said they did it. let us leave it at that. cool?

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Of course Qanon was involved. I never will deny it.

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And I understand your perspective. We cool!

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

Slim, are there specific questions you would like to ask me? I used the word coup because it is a word used a lot along with the word insurrection. I consider this to have been a largely peaceful protest. Some got rowdy and out of control. That sometimes happens. I do not think Trump is responsible for violence having asked for a peaceful demonstration of democratic principles.

This thread seems to be about Q. It is not something I have any history of posting about, so will abstain from that conversation.

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Sorry I missed this post. If you do venture back-Let's go by the numbers, cool?!


**edit** You state you have no history or knowledge of qanon- I hope you will take time to learn them. In fact I posted them- their videos are here-telling why they did what they did, nothing holding you back sir, but you. Since you have spoken on the riot, how can one speak on the riot but not know who particpated in the riot/or coup or insurrection? I'd ask of you to take time The way you know of BLM or Antifa...if you do post of them that is...
ok by the numbers-

1. I'd ask- How can there be a coup/insurrection without a leader calling for one?


This is how I & most people who aren't pro-right wing viewed it- QAnon Rep. Vows to Disrupt Electoral College Vote Count as Trump Tweets 'See Everyone in D.C.' not billed as an insurrection (leading up to the day)


2. I've asked in general several times noone replied, so I will ask of you- When the Don tweeted-Be There. Will Be Wild!’
How does one interpret a (wild) event to be peaceful?
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/80156332.cms


3. How did you conclude that the deaths of 5 people, 100 injured is equivalent to a peaceful protest? How many have to die for you to say- that was NOT peacefully protesting?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/d-c-mayor...aos-at-capitol

4. Now this I admit is a sarcastic question, my bad, but when you wrote: This thread seems to be about Q....What would be a better way to let you know that-;D if writing it this way: Why Do Trump Supporters Refuse To Discuss QAnon's Involvement on Jan 6th?

wasn't sufficient for you to see that was the basis of this thread- Qanon- not being mentioned by Trump supporters, right wingers.

Trumps' words not being quoted. qanon not being given credit for what they asked-



Everything else I write is rhetorical, for the board in general -but feel free to chime in.. @Gandalf, I would really like to know your position(s) U know I dont critique!:cool:

Follow up post I asked for those who felt this was antifa, why not post the vids of those antifa/blm posing as qanon/Oath keepers/Pboys then?

So I began posting some who were arrested- 300 so far...and I was critisized for proving my point (not by you)

How can 9 oath keepers be charged- and no one -not a single trump supporter responds to why they are being arrested?

Watching them walk into the capital- knowing exactly where to go- amazing they were within 100 feet of Pence- and that was a coincedence?:-\
They lounged around as if they (KNEW) there would be no responders.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...ial%20election.

Last- I acknowledge since the investigation began- the charges have now turned to (insurrection) when it was initally a rally called (Stop the Steal) that was intended to stop them from certifying the election- they were successful..for all of 2 hours.

I learned that the willful ignorance -to ignore qanon- allows many to put words in don's mouth as opposed to quoting him. Be there be wild. Be forceful. Now go & walk to the capital....how does those words get continuously ignored?


Lastly- since the investigation began -Gandalf are you aware of how many don supporters are NOT following it? I mean who wants to read- Robert J. Contee III, the city's top cop said
5. two pipe bombs were recovered earlier one located outside the RNC and one outside the DNC.
6. Police found a cooler from a vehicle that had a long gun and Molotov cocktail on the Capitol grounds.
7. At least six firearms were recovered, in addition to the three recovered same night
8. DOJ revealed scores of Private text and audio messages such as:

"Trump said It's gonna be wild!!!!!!! It's gonna be wild!!!!!!!” Kelly Meggs, 52, a leader of Florida’s Oath Keepers, told a Facebook contact .

Another read: “He wants us to make it WILD that's what he's saying. He called us all to the Capitol and wants us to make it wild!!! Sir Yes Sir!!! Gentlemen we are heading to DC pack your shit!!"

Another read- Thomas Caldwell, 65, told his collaborators they were “screwed.”

another text read: “Pence has punked out,”
from a Virginia resident texted at 2:06 p.m.

18 minutes into the attack the President of the United States tweeted Pence lacked the “courage” to overturn the election.

Just what do his actions and words suggest then? :confused: How can they all have been there on their own accord, no leader, they just all decided on the fly? Do we ignore all the evidence of texts, posts? in response to a request- be there- will be wild?

And for those who say how many guns were taken...again I repeat how can any law enforcement seize guns- if they werent called to resolve 2 hours later? Yet now the investigation- using their own texts, their own cell phones, led them to where cache of weapons were stored- yet I acknowedge if don supporters refuse to follow the investigation- then they have the right to be correct due to willfull ignorance aka ignore it.

another text in reel time: 3:05 p.m., Caldwell wrote in a Facebook message, “Inside.” Does that sound like a protest? or an act of forced entry?

another text read- You guys Gonna carry?" Ok we aren't either, we have a heavy QRF 10 Min out though."

If you were investigatingf such a case and these were BLM/Antifa/NAACP with those texts- would you still see it the same? Peaceful?
Watkins, another member of the Oath Keepers, told those storming the Capitol initially would not be bringing guns because “QRF will be our law enforcement members.”

Sounds like they knew what they were doing- because their right wing media said just that- well if no guns, then no harm..really?:(

https://www.foxnews.com/us/d-c-mayor...aos-at-capitol


When you saw people scaling the walls, how did that convince you- that you were witnessing a protest of peace?

How do untrained citizens scale a wall? not a mountain with grooves, to find footing, but flat walls, where there are certain spots on walls -that only protectors of our Captial would know?

Lots of questions Gandalf, I don't expect you to answer them all. That was a distubring day- to witness supporters defend trump by speaking on his behalf as opposed to using his words, his actions to prove he was not the one that told them what to do, when to and where, then who told them?

While Right Wingers & Donald's kids demand to talk about Mr.--- being dropped from Potato head or Dr. Suess being dropped from reading children, others are still talking about the continued arrests such as myself.



https://youtu.be/YaOlqqmar3A

Don's kids are special- IMO as in too stupid in thinking they can post their actions, delete them...and think cause it was wiped from their laptop, it can't be found...well Southgate man A. Williams is 6th from Michigan arrested in Capitol attack investigation

Law enforcement retrieved his deleted video and found every instance - of him in the building with the words "We took this [expletive] building." Again if one is a juror- and saw this--- how is he innoncently protesting? :confused:
He Even wrote his father & grandfather would be proud of him for storming the swamp.


Just a few days ago 2 brothers were taken in- one was found in video using a police barricade to get inside..again I ask: How is this peaceful?

https://youtu.be/nTZc0DrSzbE

Both were seen exiting the capital -but were found opening a secure door on the north side of the capital. Millions of dollars in damage was done by like minded, again I ask: How does millions of dollars in damages=a peaceful protest? How many millions have to be destroyed before such as event is considered anything but peaceful?
At 1:03 into the video above- one of them is beating the dogshit out of someone on the ground...with a flagpole.

One of the brothers is shown later in the video- clashing at a previous event against BLM--you know the group right wingers claimed destroyed the capital- the point?- these brothers have a history of such acts.

One old dude in the video was arrested showing he entered- then he stated he left immediately when he saw the carnage (not peaceful) protesting. he said he was shamed of what he saw. I believe the old white guy. Not all there were violent, but then again milions of dollars in wreckage is never accidental.

Cameras, videos are proving who did what. 3months later...they are getting the ones who were complicit. So what Trump supporter is against finding those who did cause damage, suffering , injuries and deaths?

Just a few days ago, mother & son charged


https://youtu.be/Bw5SBUBhMdk

What would you guys/gals do if your family member was a part of this? In USA families are torn over this. In North Carolina a man's entire inner family turned him in


https://youtu.be/zpP8prCAEM4

I know this is biting sarcasm- but I call it as I see it- how stupid does one have to be- to invade a state building then brag about the shit on social platform?:vd::vd:

The posts between his family is responding to his post "We just took the capital"
One member responded- YOU are bragging about this? Dont bother speaking to me again, this is treason.

To think that anyone would be dumb enough to think that if they did somehow take the capital- one building...then the United States Marine Corp, Army, Navy, Air Force, Special Forces would all be complicit and respond: :o Capital is seized? Well guess we have to go along" :rolleyes:

As if they can't just drop drop a B on it..and rebuild the buidling- these actions/words are indicative of exactly how smart these people are NOT.



he responded on FB - You will thank me for saving your freedom.:-\

A Police officer of a Highpoint North Carolina was arrested as well- wearing tactical gear walking in formation to the capital-- again, how is this the actions of peaceful protesters? In formation- being allowed to walk through a sea of people who behave like the Red Sea and just part?!:rolleyes:

It would be through his emails, that revealed other para-military groups were planning this as well, in other words, this wasn't just qanon- rather people who voted for Don, those who hate Democrats, hate minorities & have been inundated with decades of hate radio teaching them- literally that their country has been taken from them.
No democracy of a USA style of Brexit...just go kill for it.

*UPDATE*
My numbers were 300 as of last month. As of the end of March -there have been 400 charged

Now why would a man divorce his wife over this? Now I admit I would be compromised. May have a hell of an argument, but divorce her? Well, turns out this dude is not only a police detective, but one whose wife was with another dude, clinching on him like John Ruiz in a championship fight!;D

https://youtu.be/v7ABkx05O3g

Detective Divorcing Wife Who Went to Capitol Insurrection
709,427 views•Mar 22, 2021

And he is a part of Oath keepers? Nope! PBoys? Nope!
Qanon.;D You know the reason for this thread! They were kind of an intermediary in which all of these white supramicist groups to anti government and paramailitary organizations used as a go between- but how can anyone argue against it- if the answer from trumpers is Who is Qanon?:confused:
wow a detective finds his wife is on Facebook planning to go with this dude and book a room together, must be the trump christian crew ;D

Can't be dumb to who they are- and argue on their non involvement simultaneously!


'IF YOU DON'T FIGHT LIKE HELL, YOU ARE NOT GONNA HAVE A COUNTRY ANYMORE"
-Donald's last words, before they walked down that avenue- again I ask- how are those words encouraging a peaceful protest?

'IF YOU DON'T FIGHT LIKE HELL, YOU ARE NOT GONNA HAVE A COUNTRY ANYMORE"
-Donald's last words, before they walked down that avenue- again I ask- how are those words encouraging a peaceful protest?


So let's say Trump didn't incite the violence that day. How then does one review words such as

'IF YOU DON'T FIGHT LIKE HELL, YOU ARE NOT GONNA HAVE A COUNTRY ANYMORE"


"Be there will be wild"


These are HIS words. What do they mean to you?

Watching a mob chase a law enforcement official upstairs is a great example of a peaceful protest?


https://youtu.be/Mg7eA_f-lj0


I later learned this cop went in a direction opposite of the senate floor they were heading toward- into another direction. Wow, the IQ level of these individuals is just astonishingly low.

Well the dudes ( brothers) who led the chase doesnt agree with any trumpers here- they state they are in jail because they listened to trump and should have been pardoned like the dude wearing the viking outfit who is a part of a group few want to mention...I think they are called...uhh, Qanon


The attorny argues they were following orders of the commander in chief. Judge responded he had 2,200 miles of traveling to think his actions over. He cant use that as an excuse the judge responded.

Again - I ask how is that a married couple who particpated in paramilitary training within months of the riot be deemed as =peaceful protestors?

https://youtu.be/TuKU-2VPem0

Point? neither of them stated they were BLM nor Antifa. They stated their affilition in the video above.

I'd say the biggest contributors to the January 6th day of utter shame were the politicians, the so called attorneys and most of all all the hate radio stations, the right winged financed channels like NEWSMAX, OANN, FOX, SEAN INSANITY, DEAD RUSH that constantly claimed stolen election


Yet near the whole lot of their resources have done a 180 and once forced in a court to say- they were giving their opinions. Not facts.:(

How can those who believe the election was stolen- have no words for those who told them it was so? Now say otherwise?

How could Qanon have thrived had people like this old chick of an attorney had not claimed she had facts?
Qanon never claimed they had facts. They claimed the same as Oath keepers the same as Proud Boys- that Trump's team had undeniable proof, yet when they were taken to court, they stated the opposite. How is that ok?:-\


https://youtu.be/YEmXuWSyDgo

Trump lawyer walks back previous election fraud claims

Trump's former lawyer (how many has he gone through?!) stated this in her defense:
No reasonable person would have believed her

Who is she talking about?

She was brought in by Rudy
Rudy was brought in by Donnie
and who voted for donnie?

How then could the no reasonable person(s) not be the donnie voters?

How can they be ok with her using that as a defense in court? If you who believed her---were reasonable- you in fact would have NOT believed her.
That was her defense, damn! meaning there would have been what reason to go to the stop the steal ralley which turned into graffitti, pissing in the hallways, defecating (shitting) in the Capital halls, damaging, looting, injuring and murdering...none of this would have happened - if they had used reasoning, wow...:eek:

Had Jan 6th not been a day Donnie told his followers to go and fight like hell....Would we be witnessing the Proud Boys snitching one each other now?
Or wait..:rolleyes: That isn't being discussed by donnites either?;D


Proud Boys Turn on Leader
https://medium.com/politics-fast-and...d-2c847e9420d6

Gavin McInnes, the group’s founder, stepped down in 2018 after the legal ramifications of being in charge of a street-fighting group finally hit him. And Enrique Tarrio, who stepped up to replace McInnes, is now in hot water after it was revealed that he was an FBI informant.


A few pages back in this thread I posted his interview- and oh the shit talked on this board by Enrique in favor of him by a select few here...tsk tsk...
I asked then & now- how is it, that a known informant was just now acknowledged by trumpladiytes? (this shit aint new) just new to those who didnt want to know, but I digress!

Enrique by some strange coicendence would be arrested 2 days before some of his members stormed the capital.
Get this- it was because he burned a Black Lives matter Flag & had empty magazines
Please think that over.

He inadvertantly admitted that he presided on a grand jury panel. In defense of Roger Stone? A felon was asked to provide for such? How, why?
Please, think that over.
& when fellow Pboys like Ethan ‘Rufio Panman’ Nordean and Joe Biggs, who were charged for their role- he said they shouldn't have been there. He said there was NO fraudulent elections...His member get charged, for events leading up ti Jan 6th, and somehow he always remained free,.

Tulsa Proud Boys in Oklahoma, no longer under his leadership.
chapters of the Indiana Proud Boys, and the St. Louis Proud Boys in Missouri. all turned against the stool pigeon since Jan 6th.


Trump confidant Roger Stone has used the Proud Boys as his personal security detail. In the interview Enrique the stool pigeon said he had Roger's phone number- during the time Drumpf said he knew nothing about them...but his boy Rog does....
Please - think that over. And that didnt give them the street cred they needed?


And as a result of those like Roger Stone, he today now appears to have dropped them now for Oath keepers...well up till their day in court as more and more of them arrested for Jan 6th.

How could they have shown up- had their been no one stating stolen election?:confused:

And those who say stolen election are recanting one by one-even NEWSMAX recanted. so why then are donnie supporters still accepting it? While Qanaon, Oath keepers and Proud Boys, former military, former police officers, husbands, wives, children believe in Donnie so much so deep they are still willing to go to jail for him?
One by one.

https://apnews.com/article/proud-boy...5f874452d2b481



You know the Roger Stone that stated North Korean Boats Delivered Ballots Through Maine Harbor ? yeah that Stone.

So, once again- how can someone make a statement like that and be believed? That dude just got out jail, so thats where he heard it from?

I wonder how many people who stormed the capital believed in him as well? And why not ask Donnie what happened to all those love letters he was receiving from North korea? Not one letter stated he was going to betray his American lover Donald for sleepy Joe? Not one?:confused:

Roger Stone Says North Korean Boats Delivered Ballots Through Maine Harbor

I always thought Donie voters never mentioned it, because they knew it was too stupid to repeat- yet they accepted it
https://youtu.be/LV6mVmAVQU4


We just had a prez whose boys were jailed during his stint- he bails them out, but not those who he told- go fight like hell. Be forceful, be there, be wild!:rotflmao: going to jail one by one except Enrique the nigguhrican ...aka the FBI's STOOL PIGEON HA-CHA-CHA-CHA!

https://youtu.be/C3xU0fnjUcg

3 months later and names from Qanon or Trump supporters are still being arrested.


https://www.usatoday.com/storytellin...t-mob-arrests/
Michael Lee Roche Arrested April 13th.

He stood with the "Q Anon Shaman" Roche posted a Facebook video on Jan. 6, stating: "My name is Michael Roche. We're here in Washington, D.C. We did get a chance to storm the Capitol. And we made it into the chamber. ... We managed to convince the cops to let us through. They listened to reason.


Paul Russell Johnson. Arrested or charged on: April 14, 2021
Charges
Inflicting bodily injury on certain officers; obstruction of law enforcement during civil disorder; obstruction of justice and Congress; engaging in physical violence in a restricted building or grounds; acts of physical violence in the Capitol grounds or bulidings.

What happened
The FBI stated he can be seen pushing and pulling on the metal barricades, causing a Capitol Police officer to fall and hit her head on stairs, and then lose consciousness. She blacked out later and collapsed while arresting a rioter and was taken to an emergency room and was diagnosed with a concussion, the FBI stated.

Johnson appeared in a You Tube video saying he'd broken through barricades and fought against police, adding "I have video where I'm slinging one around..."

The link above lists dozens, maybe hundreds of people arrested, how they were found, videos they made taking credit and crimes charged with.



I think the narrative here got changed as well. The charges seem to be based on accusing these individuals of preventing the certification of the elections, not that they were charged with trying to overthrow the government.

And they played it smart- having a stash of weapons in multiple locations, but not inside the state capital. It seems that right wing media wanted to focus on -if guns were found at the capital.

https://www.thetrace.org/2021/01/cap...ts-proud-boys/
A Running List of Gun Arrests Tied to the U.S. Capitol Attack
Civilians didn't open fire on January 6, but that doesn’t mean the Trump supporters who congregated at the Capitol weren’t armed.


https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/fb...-capitol-riot/
FBI: No Firearms Were Found in the US Capitol During the January 6 Riot

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/13/polit...inn/index.html
Oath Keepers likely stashed weapons at a Comfort Inn prior to Capitol riot, prosecutors say



Officers Recalls Moment Capitol Rioters Called To 'Kill Him With His Own Gun'
https://www.ladbible.com/news/news-o...n-gun-20210115

Plain clothes narcotics detective Michael Fanone was on desk duty when he heard the mob and decided to don his brand new police uniform for the first time, before running to the Capitol building.

the 40-year-old was slammed to the ground, beaten and tasered. "I remember guys were stripping me of my gear, these rioters - pulling my badge off my chest, they ripped my radio off my vest, started pulling ammunition magazines from their holder on my belt. And then some guy started getting a hold of my gun and they were screaming out, 'Kill him with his own gun'. I just remember yelling out that I have kids. It seemed to work, some people in the crowd started to encircle me and try to offer me some level of protection.""


Summarising his conflicting feelings, Fanone said: "A lot of people have asked me my thoughts on the individuals in the crowd that helped me or tried to offer some assistance. I think the conclusion I've come to is - thank you, but f*ck you for being there."

Regardless of those being arrested are identified as Trump supporters there remains a significant number of people that either think the rioters were not Trump supporters and those who do think they were- feel it was justified


According to a recent YouGov survey, while a majority of Americans oppose the violent attack on the U.S. Capitol, 45 percent of Republicans say they’re in support of the riot and believe it’s justified. That’s roughly 33 million voters across the country that believe the angry pro-Trump mob was right in inciting an attack during a live session of Congress that resulted in five deaths.


More Republicans blame Biden for Capitol riot than fault Trump
https://news.yahoo.com/more-republic...185541501.html


asked Feb. 14–15. Now, 46 percent of those Republican respondents actually blamed President Biden and 58 percent blamed Democrats in Congress. Just 27 percent blamed Republicans in Congress — many of whom had challenged the Jan. 6 electoral college vote certification.


Half of Republicans believe Capitol riot was ‘mostly peaceful’, while 60% want Trump to run in 2024 – poll
https://www.rt.com/usa/520169-republ...peaceful-poll/


Amazing how January 6th revealed how greatly divided the people have become.
Seems permanent.

A year ago or lesser this board was filled with Patriotic Pro Cop loving Americans. Why? because Blue Lives Matter

Less than that they were assured Antifa & BLM were American terrorist groups.
Why? because Blue Lives Matter


To this day they tell us the rally was peaceful. Nothing about when the rally ended -and they went to the state capital Why? Apparently because Blue Lives only Matters when its nigguhs and bean-eating MS13 Mexican gang-rapists are the culprits...as Republican Ron Johnson stated- he didn't feel threatened when it all went down because ...it was NOT BLM or Antifa

.....while the hate wing of the righteous reich right pushed exactly such a narrative- We were infiltrated by BLM & Antifa.

...So what 500 plus arrests have been made -based on their cell phones recording the event. Their FB pages documenting it.

Please Forgive me for posting links to NBC.
FOX, OAN, NEWSMAX doesnt see it worthy to tell their viewers that 21 Republicans refused to vote for a Bill to honor the beatened police officers January 6th.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=uxbndlbing


https://youtu.be/dU7tQ3i3_b0

Officer injured in Capitol riot: GOP lawmaker wouldn't shake my hand


The very Republican lawmaker who said- Because of select video footage by the media one wouldn't know this was a normal tourist visit
--Republican Andrew Clyde.

Yet in the footage above- there is security footage (not media) showing him IN THE LEAD TO BLOCK THE DOORS from the peaceuful tourists.:mad:

He stated "I extended to shake my hand, rather than do that, the republican Clyde said he didnt know who I was (as if that needed to occur to extend courtesy) He said I'm Michael Fanone who fought on Jan 6th to defend the Capital."

'And a republican elected official refused to shake his hand.

Donald is back on the stump and has said nothing about the cops who were beaten or murdured.
Right wing news wont interiew the hundreds of officers who responded.
Right wing news wont interview the 21 reeling from physical injuries, some had heart attacks, others brain trauma.


The House on Tuesday passed a bill to award congressional gold medals to honor the Capitol Police officers and others who protected the Capitol during a pro-Trump riot on Jan. 6 406 voted to honor them
21 republicans voted no they would not honor them.


How is that Patiotism and respect for Blue Lives Matter...

When I began this thread I was confronted by the Trumpertantrum demons from hells of the Republic with words like


Why did you have to put each video of the person arrested on seperate posts?:mad: You could've just put them all on one page.


How? How do you place 300, then 400, now 500 individuals arrested....on one post?:-\


Why was that their only reason to come here?


Another took over 4 pages to say this: Oh, so this is a thread about Qanon? I don't know much about them.

Amazing how they can all tell us who BLM is- terrorists.


Amazing how they can all tell us who Antifa is- terrorists


Amazing how we can see partially into a blackhole in space.


But Trump worshippers...everyone here...all said the same thing. THE SAME THING: WE DON'T KNOW WHO QANON IS.



Any Trump supporter man enough -woman enough or adult enough come!

Discuss your disdain for these cops speaking out. If need be- debate me.
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But do it like your mother and father raised you well.


If not? carry on ignoring aka ingnorant of truth--when it does NOT fit your narrative.


Michael Fanone- DC Police Officer Challenges Fox News to Put Him on Air to Disprove Capitol Riot Conspiracies
https://www.thewrap.com/michael-fano...riot-fox-news/


Newsmax Hypocrite Attacks Beaten DC Officer Michael Fanone
https://crooksandliars.com/2021/06/g...officer-fanone


Here is the proof in their own news segment:
"He's been running around, lobbying Congress in a pretty forceful way, and I think an unprofessional way making himself available to every TV network that will listen."


The newsmax dude- aka Kelly blasted the idea that any of the Capitol and Metro police officers that tried to stop thousands of seditious cretins deserved a medal.
as he stated- to networks...that WILL listen.

If that network isnt listening? why?
And that isnt biased news?

You don't have to click on the link.

https://youtu.be/TX42UBLS8Y8

Please just look at the still- the dude in the middle? (with no face mask because it is just a hoax)


Thats the dude who said it looked like a peaceful protest.



Imagine your father making such a statement - then you see him bumrushing to the front to barricade the door...and that would make who proud?


That is the Republican who claimed it was a tourist visit.

When I doubled down on the posts, I was called out. Now watch me get called out for doing as they requested- one per post.:(


https://youtu.be/iAKyJQqcl0s


'Kill him with his own gun' rioters chanted as a DC police officer fought for his life at Capitol


Just think when four people were killed in Benghazi right wing Americans demanded 10 investigation via 6 different committees for 4 years.

*an 18-member Republican staff, whose full time employees are paid an average of $128,750 per year, the Benghazi Select Committee

* The Benghazi Select Committee has little to show for the significant expenditure — aside from a trail of unfulfilled promises by its Chairman. But We will have hearings in January, February and March,” Rep. Gowdy (R-SC) announced in December [2014].

*Rep. [Trey] Gowdy told Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren the committee would hold a hearing in January [2015] to explore why the State Department was in Benghazi.

There were ten investigations into the Benghazi matter:
one by the FBI;
one by an independent board commissioned by the State Department;
two by Democrat-controlled Senate Committees;
and six by Republican-controlled House Committees.
After the first five Republican investigations found no evidence of wrongdoing by senior Obama administration officials, Republicans
in 2014 opened a sixth investigation,
the House Select Committee on Benghazi, chaired by Trey Gowdy.

This investigation also failed to find any evidence of wrongdoing by senior Obama administration officials.

The investigations concluded in 2016, costing about $7 million.

But when 5 Americans die on home turf.
State Capital.


Fuck an investigation.:furious:

https://youtu.be/YoRP3dziYdI


FBI says it's identified over 500 suspects in Capitol riot investigation


Close to 200,000 digital media that led to the arrests- AS EARLY AS ELECTION DAY!!! BEFORE THE DAMN ELECTION WAS ANNOUNCED NOVEMBER 2020.

237 federal cases
100 EITHER FORMER MILITARY/COPS AND ACTIVE
70 indictments
2 months
zero ANTIFA charged
zero BLM charged

The closest cameras to id the would be bombers, somehow was not ID because person(s) at the right time walked in front of each camera-obscuring their view, my my my, what a coincedence.

Chief of Police stated it took 2 hours to get more troops.

During those two hours, where was the Commander in Chief doing during that time? :confused::-\

What we do know, is that when he told his worshippers to GO!!:mad: GO TO THE CAPITAL AND TAKE BACK YOUR COUNTRY.,,..HE did not go with them. That is their leader.
A Western Osama Bin Laden....U gotta fight, why I stay and hide in a cave.

Doesn't that make you proud?

...But!!!! To this day they want an investigation into what they deem as a Russian Collusion Hoax. We speak-a no investigation for 5 deaths- BUT we want one on Russia-


Regardless of the fact that any Republican could have done so, just like they did with Benghazi.


So what was the holdup?:rolleyes:


I'll make a suggestion;D Common sense is holding it up. If we go back to the summer of 2016-IMO this is why I think the Russia thing is truly a mess to follow.

2016-MY smoking gun of how Russia ghost chase began...the vid below is Donster the monster asking, pleading Russia to get involved

https://youtu.be/-b71f2eYdTc


He knew his minions are from the school of bias & incompetence. Such that he could fool them into believing the hacked (DNC) server was the same as Hillary & Bill's Foundation server at their home.:11fb8::vd:


My lawd! How [F]... friggin dumb- do I think those people are!!!;) So dumb...
They couldnt figure out....Russia got emails from the DNC server vi;)a Leon Podesta.


Hillary Clinton destroyed her HOMe server-that had the 30,000 emails :cool:

And Let me remind or inform those what was revealed by the hackers: Some chick named Debbie Wasserman Schultz head of DNC was cock-blocking Bernie Sanders in favor of Hillary.

That was all!

But when they got their last batch of emails (30 thousand were given) they learned there were 33,000 more- those were destroyed. But the last of those they got revealed a name they loved to hate- Soros!:o:o time frame 2013 we gotcha!!! So they thought...


So when Trump, Stone & their hate media demanded of their Republican politicians- they went to town- and guess what they found?:o

It was NOT George, but Alex Soros-- he wanted to appear on Trump Ms. Universe thang in Russia, he sings:rolleyes: in return he would help to go bypass what Trump & republicans demanded of Obama get tuff on Russia, sanctions...but those sanctions fucked up his hotel desires there-

Michael Cohen was sent to figure it out---the pageant would be their alibi.
The dude who was the go between none other than Stone.

So their darling Robert Mueller who they brought in 98-0 & reopened Hillary case- a month before elections...that dropped her % was closed.

...follow me here..it is a mess to follow-
When he dealt with the reality of the hacked emails...he had to go to the name found aka Soros...no choice, (the people )not knowing it was Alex

Alex was found with another person- guess who? Cohen Donster the Monster's then attorney.
and who else?:o Donald Himself.
They were discussing their business -at of all places a strip club in Las Vegas where they assimilate pee-peeing on men.:lickish:

SIDE NOTE- That is how the Don pee-pee tape conspiracy came about. IMO there was NEVER a tape.
It was media/Facebook left wing liberals claiming...I bet Putin gotta a piss tape on him...nope none.


Here is one of many links that lead back to the christian's chosen one at a stank nasty club -closed down because it was so lewd..
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...M-showers.html

and when it was revealed Donald was doing business with Russian Oligarchs?:o

Well now, they want to close the case, fuck the case...even if it means a fall guy (so Mueller tried to cover it up- by using the other issue they hid (paying a pornstar not to tell everyone Donnie got a mushroom and no dick)....so Cohen took the fall...and then say...fuck off with Mueller- this is just a hoax...cause NOW Democrats want back at em..saying OPEN THE CASE OPEN THE CASE:lolololol:

O0O0
THE END!

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Typing so fast, Alex Soros is not the singer, but was representing to get his piece of the pie ...cause liberals are corrupt be it George Soros per Democrats or Alex per Republicans


the names- Emin Agalarov, Donald Trump, and Araz Agalarov

Those are the names to research.


Because the hateful-right focuses on fusion GPS dossier- it suits their narrative.

I also suggest one can do research on - FancyBear
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fancy_Bear

Fancy Bear (also known as APT28 (by Mandiant), Pawn Storm, Sofacy Group (by Kaspersky), Sednit, Tsar Team (by FireEye) and STRONTIUM (by Microsoft))[2][4] is a Russian cyber espionage group. Cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike


They are all connected to the Russian mess.

Right Wingers told their audience what appeared all liberal & overlooked the rest....pitty! cause dudes like me love exposing them for their lack of intellect and willingness to see ALL sides.


OK-I am off my soapbox!
:soapbox:

QAnon spreads Biden photo online claiming it shows Trump is secretly in the White House

Followers of the QAnon conspiracy theory believe an image of Joe Biden shows that Donald Trump was recently in the White House, and was in fact US president.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...cid=entnewsntp

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QAnon spreads Biden photo online claiming it shows Trump is secretly in the White House

Followers of the QAnon conspiracy theory believe an image of Joe Biden shows that Donald Trump was recently in the White House, and was in fact US president.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...cid=entnewsntp

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:vd: Man some people are just too far gone down the black hole of delusional desperation. I've known once extremely close families literally grow so far apart in the name of the traitor, it's sad.

They still claim it was democrats, as more than 500 have been identified. Family members showed up to knuckle up.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/doj-charge...200507154.html

These Trumpaholics are geniuses- they keep getting caught- by posting what they did!
tipster who captured screenshots of Munn's Facebook and Snapchat accounts. 5 familhttps://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/retired-nypd-cop-charged-in-jan-6-riot-after-allegedly-attacking-officer-101538373892y members.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fl...fbi/ar-AALu2ba
And their supposed religious zealots apparently dont give a gosh darn that their own bible say "Vengeance is mine says the lord" Apparently they grew tired of waiting & took actions into their own hands.

What does that tell us about Americans who vote Republican & practice Christianity?
James Varnell Cusick Jr., 72, and his son Casey Cusick, 35, both pastors at the Global Outreach Ministries church in Melbourne, face charges of knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority; disorderly or disruptive conduct in a restricted building; and violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.

https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/re...r-101538373892

Even Republican voters who were once cops- got charged.
Retired NYPD officer Thomas Webster surrendered to the FBI. Federal prosecutors say the 54-year-old attacked a Capitol police officer with a flagpole. Webster also allegedly pulled down the officer’s helmet, choking him.


https://www.newsweek.com/more-50-cur...%20backgrounds.

And former & active military heeded the call of the demonic one as well.
More than 50 current or former military service members have been charged for crimes in relation to the January 6 riot


Larry Rendall Brock Jr. Air Force veteran was photographed in a military-style helmet and tactical vest carrying flex cuffs inside the Capitol. He posted on Facebook that he was preparing for a "Second Civil War," according to documents filed in federal court. In the weeks after Biden's victory he posted that "we are now under occupation by a hostile governing force."



so families, pastors, cops and military were complicit in kicking the dog shit out of state police...murderers...in Jesus Name, murderers in the name of Patriotism. Hey, I guess a family that murders together, stays together.:-\:eek:

It would be nice if any Trump supporters would respond to this thread! I will be courteous!:cool:

https://news.yahoo.com/fourth-allege...205443213.html


Fourth suspected Oath Keeper pleads guilty to in Capitol riot conspiracy, obstruction


On Jan. 7, Berry and others picked up firearms they dropped off two days earlier at a hotel in Arlington, Va., just outside Washington, D.C., according to court records.

The Justice Department has charged more than 500 defendants since the Jan. 6 breach.

The cost: $1.5 million in damage to the Capitol.

Berry agreed to pay $2,000 in restitution.

140 Capitol Police and Metropolitan Police Department officers were assaulted in the riot, according to the Justice Department.

If there are any BLM or Antifa charged they should be held accountable.

So far out of the 500+ Those who did belong to a group(s) are:
1.Proud Boys
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/january...arles-donohoe/

2. OathKeepers
https://www.kitv.com/story/44343458/...th-prosecutors

3. 3 Percenters
https://www.the-sun.com/news/2438868...20tyranny.%208

4. Woodland Wild Dogs
https://www.thedailybeast.com/baseba...r-capitol-riot

5. Neo Nazis
https://nypost.com/2021/01/06/neo-na...ed-us-capitol/

6. Qanon
https://www.voanews.com/usa/capitol-...lent-potential


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/137494...livan-charged/
[A] BLACK Lives Matter activist has been arrested after a video revealed he shouted "it's our house" and "we got to get this s**t burned."

John Sullivan, who was charged by the FBI, can allegedly be heard egging the pro-Donald Trump rioters on in footage he filmed of the attack.


From what I've read so far- the majority of articles deflect the Jan 6th - with (well, what about the summer of 2020?)
"The DOJ reported that during the unrest of the spring and summer of 2020, 1 federal officer was killed and over 700 federal and local officers were injured during the protests. Furthermore, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) reported, 'since the start of the unrest there has been 81 Federal Firearms License burglaries of an estimated loss of 1,116 firearms; 876 reported arsons; 76 explosive incidents; and 46ATF arrests[.]'


Has any Anitfa been charged yet?
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-...l-riot-1569050

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It would be nice if any Trump supporters would respond to this thread! I will be courteous!:cool:

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They're gone, Slim. Kabong quit the forum. Walrus is AWOL... probably out spending the millions he's made off Bitcoin. And Brock, well... who the hell knows what Brock is up to. Some say he's got several alts in the forum... others say he's in a deep funk over going "0 for INFINITY" in his predictions. Who knows. All's I know is it's pretty boring around here without those guys.

BTW... will probably mention it on the other thread, but... CONGRATS ON THE BUCKS WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP!!! Giannis proved too otherworldly for the hapless (but game) Suns.

A group exodus, wow. Maybe some will return eventually. Heading on the road myself tommorrow. Probably won't get to log on much myself for a bit. Peace.

What about the FBI?