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From a probation point of view, as an ex-felon who killed his own mother, ya gotta wonder about the system here: @Master just curious if this works differently in the UK. In your extensive experience, where was the parole officer here? What could have been done better in this case in your opinion?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMrHP6LoXEc
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Serious Further Offences (SFO) happen and are independently investigated to ensure they do not happen again and lessons are learnt.
Probation officers can never be 100% certain and they have to risk assess the offender. They have to make sure they have provided defensible decisions on their actions. Hard job especially when you are working with high risk prisoners.
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Homie, yo ass wouldnt be caught dead in The Bronx, son.
Actually, it WOULD be caught dead! ;)
wit some charts 'n graphs in ya back pocket
No Offense but you would probably fit in Kirkland's pocket.
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Whelp, on a positive note NY has now legalized recreational use of the Devils cabbage ;D. Maybe they should direct some of the guaranteed millions to come in collected taxes to mental health programs. And maybe some porta johns for guys like that one nasty fella.
We had more shootings in the Quarter around Bourbon St..the tourist mecca :p of the City. Drive me crazy when I see these wide eyed tourist come down and the very first thing is LETS GO DOWNTOWN. Um, no.
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Serious Further Offences (SFO) happen and are independently investigated to ensure they do not happen again and lessons are learnt.
Probation officers can never be 100% certain and they have to risk assess the offender. They have to make sure they have provided defensible decisions on their actions. Hard job especially when you are working with high risk prisoners.
@Master awesome answer and thanks for the expertise on this one. I just found it nuts he killed his mom and ony served 9 out of a 10 year sentence and is back on the streets without any probationary programs.
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Whelp, on a positive note NY has now legalized recreational use of the Devils cabbage ;D. Maybe they should direct some of the guaranteed millions to come in collected taxes to mental health programs. And maybe some porta johns for guys like that one nasty fella.
We had more shootings in the Quarter around Bourbon St..the tourist mecca :p of the City. Drive me crazy when I see these wide eyed tourist come down and the very first thing is LETS GO DOWNTOWN. Um, no.
@Spicoli bro, last year we spent 9 days in downtown over there in the French Quarter, the Garden District, walked around over there behind the Superdome, some tough areas back there, I hear what youre saying --- definitely do not go downtown! And whats with those dudes out there by the riverboat docks? Gotta watch your ass out there but the PO BOYS WERE DELICIOUS, COULDNT STOP.
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Violent crimes are absolutely rampant and off the charts in New York City now, and largely due to a huge loss, even pre-covid, of residents, leaving a huge vacuum in neighborhoods and a huge spike in violent crime: Without the reason to work there, lessens the reason to live there. Add the crime and cost of leaving. Retail collapse. NYC will never come back after all of them riots and the looting of the stores has caused alot of business owners to go to other cities where they don't have to worry about paying the high property taxes. Too many assaults, shootings, rapes, etc. Huge spike. Asswipes with charts and graphs have never even lived in the city haha, make us laugh and wouldnt survive 1 month there, if that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c6wYou9qLQ
One little pandemic isn't going to reverse centuries of urban agglomeration.
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From a probation point of view, as an ex-felon who killed his own mother, ya gotta wonder about the system here: @
Master just curious if this works differently in the UK. In your extensive experience, where was the parole officer here? What could have been done better in this case in your opinion?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMrHP6LoXEc
This is one of the few times where I would bring racial/resolve or racism into question.
I've lost track of how many white Americans are able to use the justice system to claim mental health, therefore sent to instutions outside of incarceration, while minorities typically are sent to prison without mental health evaluation.
When someone kills their own mother, that person would seem either beyond evil or sick emotionally/mentally.
One of too many examples- the 2 girls in wisconsin who killed over the internet's slender man.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...ppeal-72329368
Geyser pleaded guilty to attempted first-degree intentional homicide in a deal with prosecutors to avoid prison. She was found not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect.
Now please take a look at the one girl in court. Why is she in street clothes? So often my people are in that orange suit.
This was almost a decade ago & the family of the girl who got stabbed are just now getting justice?
In other words, I think right wing media plays a great role in pointing at parole officers, parole period. Right wing think tanks like Heritage foundation are always attacking parole system.
I dont know the % of the paroled that do well versus % that commit again, but I do know often mental health issues are almost always reserved for whites, not sure about Albanians sir!
The two girls are now serving a combined 65 years in a mental hospital for the brutal stabbing, which missed Leutner’s heart by just a fraction of an inch.
I'm not saying the guy in this video deserves a mental hospital as much as I question the system as well, but from a different perspective- how parole officer(s) are supposed to have such insight z(alone).
New York is a boiling point for mental disease, spiritually sickened, raped, abused, molested.
Lord only knows what issues you dealt with- and had you or if you/me snap who will look at our past to see if something triggered us?
We know the records of District Attornies across the country are limited -& some dont even seem to care. If you/me had money for a good attorney- we might get the psychiatric ward, but with so many poor, I can imagine guys like the sicko in this video just get released & continue their rampage in society.
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Serious Further Offences (SFO) happen and are independently investigated to ensure they do not happen again and lessons are learnt.
Probation officers can never be 100% certain and they have to risk assess the offender. They have to make sure they have provided defensible decisions on their actions. Hard job especially when you are working with high risk prisoners.
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Master awesome answer and thanks for the expertise on this one. I just found it nuts he killed his mom and ony served 9 out of a 10 year sentence and is back on the streets without any probationary programs.
They would come out on a licence for the remainder of the sentence.
They would have been assessed in prison for parole but if they are due to come out then you have to set conditions where they have to reintegrate into the community. If they fail to meet these activities you can recall them.
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Precisely. And the whole probation system needs to be looked at immediately
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Master
Serious Further Offences (SFO) happen and are independently investigated to ensure they do not happen again and lessons are learnt.
Probation officers can never be 100% certain and they have to risk assess the offender. They have to make sure they have provided defensible decisions on their actions. Hard job especially when you are working with high risk prisoners.
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Master awesome answer and thanks for the expertise on this one. I just found it nuts he killed his mom and ony served 9 out of a 10 year sentence and is back on the streets without any probationary programs.
They would come out on a licence for the remainder of the sentence.
They would have been assessed in prison for parole but if they are due to come out then you have to set conditions where they have to reintegrate into the community. If they fail to meet these activities you can recall them.
I see. It must be a tough decision for somebody to make whether or not they feel the person has reintegrated into the community. What do you do in the case that the person becomes homeless and is living in a shelter? Is that considered to be reintegrated into the community? It's a tough call because the person may need some time to get a place to live and find a job @Master
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Precisely. And the whole probation system needs to be looked at immediately
Reality is the prisons are over populated over here in the UK and there is pressure on probation staff to not recall people which can lead to these SFO's.
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scumbag new yorker arrested after 3 (THREE) Asian attacks in Brooklyn etc over the past month.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyUEIHOseck
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Whelp, on a positive note NY has now legalized recreational use of the Devils cabbage ;D. Maybe they should direct some of the guaranteed millions to come in collected taxes to mental health programs. And maybe some porta johns for guys like that one nasty fella.
We had more shootings in the Quarter around Bourbon St..the tourist mecca :p of the City. Drive me crazy when I see these wide eyed tourist come down and the very first thing is LETS GO DOWNTOWN. Um, no.
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Spicoli bro, last year we spent 9 days in downtown over there in the French Quarter, the Garden District, walked around over there behind the Superdome, some tough areas back there, I hear what youre saying --- definitely do not go downtown! And whats with those dudes out there by the riverboat docks? Gotta watch your ass out there but the PO BOYS WERE DELICIOUS, COULDNT STOP.
You came last year it must've been deserted with so many places closed. You ventured beyond the tracks around the old B.W cooper huh ;D. Like any large concrete jungle, there is good and bad. I tend to shat on the City but it's not all bad 24-7. But what I've found now is in a way it used to be that people 'went to the crime'. Certain areas, blocks and Parishes you knew to skirt etc. Now though the crime has started to come to the people. The Quarter specifically. Like a targeted tourist trap. Much as I hate to say it, pre covid you saw young dudes on bikes going through side streets wearing bandanas you had a heads up. Now though everyone is masked and gloved. Really bizarre. Car jackings have like tripled, robberies, home invasions etc. Can't go wrong with the Po boys, Crabby Jacks or Guys was my go to. Mothers did this insane roast beef with a coffee/gravy with slaw topped with an egg. Bahn Mi too, fookin favorite currently.
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Whelp, on a positive note NY has now legalized recreational use of the Devils cabbage ;D. Maybe they should direct some of the guaranteed millions to come in collected taxes to mental health programs. And maybe some porta johns for guys like that one nasty fella.
We had more shootings in the Quarter around Bourbon St..the tourist mecca :p of the City. Drive me crazy when I see these wide eyed tourist come down and the very first thing is LETS GO DOWNTOWN. Um, no.
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Spicoli bro, last year we spent 9 days in downtown over there in the French Quarter, the Garden District, walked around over there behind the Superdome, some tough areas back there, I hear what youre saying --- definitely do not go downtown! And whats with those dudes out there by the riverboat docks? Gotta watch your ass out there but the PO BOYS WERE DELICIOUS, COULDNT STOP.
You came last year it must've been deserted with so many places closed. You ventured beyond the tracks around the old B.W cooper huh ;D. Like any large concrete jungle, there is good and bad. I tend to shat on the City but it's not all bad 24-7. But what I've found now is in a way it used to be that people 'went to the crime'. Certain areas, blocks and Parishes you knew to skirt etc. Now though the crime has started to come to the people. The Quarter specifically. Like a targeted tourist trap. Much as I hate to say it, pre covid you saw young dudes on bikes going through side streets wearing bandanas you had a heads up. Now though everyone is masked and gloved. Really bizarre. Car jackings have like tripled, robberies, home invasions etc. Can't go wrong with the Po boys, Crabby Jacks or Guys was my go to. Mothers did this insane roast beef with a coffee/gravy with slaw topped with an egg. Bahn Mi too, fookin favorite currently.
@Spicoli We got lucky it was January 2020, still hoppin'! Right before covid. Those Lemonade Grenade drinks were everywhere. Never got to try one, was too busy eating Po Boys and fried oysters. We walked from the Greyhound Station to Taylor Park, it was pretty rough around there. I think we were close to those projects you are talking about. Sucks about the jackings and invasions. Something has to get better soon FFS.
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Precisely. And the whole probation system needs to be looked at immediately
The heritage foundation has stated that since 1988.
I would think we've had enough politicians on both sides of the aisle to have done more than just look at it.
https://www.heritage.org/testimony/t...imum-sentences
"The U.S. Sentencing Commission, federal judges, and Congress should consider the purpose of the federal criminal justice system when considering mandatory minimum sentences."
For me I think just the opposite, they are supposed to consider the purpose for incarceration as it relates to the centuries old fable: to rehabilitate aka prepare them to re-enter society.
Case in point:
https://youtu.be/uVozVLDTNUw
Remember our Adam Sandler's cheerleaders?;D This aint no gosh darn rehabilitation. Its the faggotization of the penal system.
https://youtu.be/E4s5mJQr94E
And the conservative Heritage foundation found reasons to claim privatizing prisons would be best- it made money for those invested in it, but look at the resolve from their thesis - back in 1988, well its 2021, how has privatization benefited the American people?
Somehow in the end, rehabilitation is not a apart of the failure, its the parole system alone being discussed.
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Precisely. And the whole probation system needs to be looked at immediately
https://www.heritage.org/political-p...-privatization
To me their thesis starts off in the faggiest of ways: America has been getting tougher on lawbreakers. This is something that the public long has been demanding. The problem it creates, however, is a shortage of prison capacity to hold the increased numbers of convicted criminals. This has led to: prison overcrowding, sometimes prompting court actions against penal systems; rapidly rising operational outlays; and taxpayer resistance to the cost of new prisons.
Let us deal with prison over-crowding as opposed to why the so called most civilized nation on earth has the biggest incarceration problem, well no wonder parole hasn't worked.
I ask one response in particular- lets say you snap, and lose it ( I pray you die as you are- a strong man) ok, now to some you look white.:o:rolleyes:
But as soon as you open your mouth- you really think Newsmax, OAN, FOX will give a damn that you voted Trump? That you are pro life? Pro gun? Or would they use that thick ass accent and call U a muslim from the middle east! Skip if you ever opened a Koran up- by the time the truth is out- you've been incarcerated & have to deal with the effects of whichever penal system you've entered. Driving you either crazier, sexually challenged or both!
And who is gonna hire you?:confused:
They're waiting for you to fuck up with the odds against you- and decry- this is what parole does.
@NoSavingByTheBell snapped & whooped 8 people in the cereal aisle cause they laughed at you claiming soggy cereal is ok-
9 months later after release- they put you on pyschotropics , melorel tegritol, carbamazipine, oxycontin- then when hooked - repubs cut the funding to your outbasis clinic- and you're jittering...at the check out in the grocer & hear someone crack a joke on cheese at Mrizi i Zanave...what kind a camel jock eats that?
:mad: You break out a six pack of whoopazz.
Shit U didnt mean to, you're now hooked legally on drugs, had it snatched away and all the childhood memories came back to ya, cause the guy crackin' on your Smoked Meat & Cheese Mrizi i Zanave ---looked just like him - so you-:bashtroll4cx4::jabbing: now ya back in a cell.
Labeled as an Albanian cereal terrorist. sitting their rocking back in forth like you done lost yo' damn mind when the t.v. calls you a 'serial' terrorist.
Why serial asks Tucker Carlson? cause parole systenm is the failiure alone. :mad:
:eek:
I agree with you dude, It has failed, but am I to start and end there? or do I consider how we became the largest nation housing criminals & the mentally ill combined?
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https://www.foxnews.com/health/one-i...chiatric-drugs
One in Five American Adults Takes Psychiatric Drugs
--FOX news
"The medicating of Americans for mental illnesses continued to grow over the past decade, with one in five adults now taking at least one psychiatric drug such as antidepressants, antipsychotics and anti-anxiety medications, according to an analysis of pharmacy claims data released Wednesday."
They start our kids off on it via ritlin. We got 3 generations now of adults that started doing legal drugs via
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...pending-in-us/
There have been 6.4 million children ages 4 through 17 who have received an ADHD- the resolve- put them on a drug.
LOS ANGELES, July 11, 2017 Greater than eight million American children and adolescents are prescribed psychoactive drugs, with more than two million on antidepressants, that are documented to be linked to violent and suicidal behavior
Back in the 1990s I had some data on the increase of spending on supposed mental health for kids- our public schools in the 1960s spent less than a billion. Buy the 1990s it increased to over $11 billion funding. How? Why? :confused: How is it the more advanced we become the crazier we become?:(
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300486161.html
How many of those kids from the 1980s became the screwed up adults in Y2K? Add on another generation.
Add on the influx of illegal drugs- mainly in central cities like Miami, Chicago case in point: New York City.
Add on the increase in cases of molestation in catholic church (billions of dollars of booty-pillage)
"Catholic Church Used Bankruptcy for Sexual-Assault Cases. Now Others Are Following Suit. Catholic dioceses and related entities have paid out nearly $4 billion in costs linked to about 19,000 sexual-abuse allegations,"
https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-york-...est-bankruptcy
The Boy scouts supposedly there to make boys to men instead ruining the souls & minds of the impressionable.
"A long-running sexual abuse scandal that has prompted the Boy Scouts of America to consider bankruptcy"
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/07/u...%20its%20files.
Then add on the influx of guns (over 400 million accessible)
https://www.guns.com/news/2020/11/17...-ars-150m-mags
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So if ya got several thousand abused by their clergy.
Another several thousand abused by their cub scout leader.
Add on several more thousand that were told as kids they had problems that could only be solved by a pill, or two.
Privatize prisons so that inmates are constantly shipped out of state to ensure maximum capacity- let them beat each other, booty plunder each other.
& then-
Watch the manufacturting jobs of their predecessors dry up, technology based is outsourced, unemployment as a result rises.
Then saturate neighborhoods with illegal dope, illegal guns, bang bang shoot the fuck up video games, movies where the villian is now the best character to feed the psyche... what does that give you?:confused:
For starters I'd wager to say oh, New York City.:-\
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These are the people forced. Then add in those who seem to have been born with malice & evil ways.
A man takes so much booty from prisoners- he was labeled the Booty Warrior, think that over.
A cartoon series is made about him
2 minutes the clip a group of men stand & unison recites: My booty is mine. It belongs to me. You cannot take my booty"
https://youtu.be/x9ZgiB1w-pY
If you can stomach it fastforward to 7:30 "Everybody in here either raped or got raped in prison. I raped a few nigguhs myself, not that they didnt have it coming"
Now let these pyschos out...prolonged imprisonment or probation- whats the point of letting these kinds of sullen souls out- if there is no (rehabilitation?)
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For the record, I would never in a million years think that the only problem was the probation system. The rehabilitation is paltry at best: they like to try to put Band-Aids on 3-in gashes that reach down to the muscle. Nothing will heal. Now bring in the PP (Pharmaceutical Pimps), jacking people full of experimental serotonin reuptake inhibitors etc. The underlying psychiatric issues will not even be touched! Jack his ass full of chemicals, put on a few Band-Aids, and like you said SUDDENLY TAKE AWAY SOME FUNDING, and leave him strung out, going to withdrawals, still wearing Band-Aids....
Oh let's not forget, let him watch 30 hours of goody two shoes videos which tell him to love his neighbors and community to try to do good works and be positive! Yes those videos will do the trick.
Then the damage done in jail..... I skipped it to 7 minutes and 30 seconds like you said.... Lord have mercy.... "It's not like he didn't have it coming".....
Who can make it through all that in one piece?
I don't know how you knew this, I actually did flip 2 times in a similar situation like you said about Mrizi I Zanave (had to look that one up).... but....I am Armenian though, not Albanian, but I get your point! Irish kid (the same a****** who taunted me during high School with "camel jockey", "hairy guru") called me "sand n*gger" to his friends as I exited Al-Fattal Syrian Armenian grocery in Patterson New Jersey in the 1990s. "Hey Terzian did you shave your back today?" "What's that shit in the bag? Camel shit? Sand n*gger!". I basically freaked out, dropped my bag of dzhash, yaprak dolma, kibbeh, lahmajoon, $20 bucks worth, and grabbed his throat with my left hand and punched him straight in the stomach knocking the wind out of him badly. The Armenian food in the bag survived and I jumped on the 190 bus across the street and got out of there. The kid's mother pressed charges against me. I could have got up to 90 days and $500 fine but the judge threw out the time and I had to pay $400. Interesting side note: my public defender said it was the first time that judge threw out the time on a simple assault. I suspect a reason is because:
Public defender's name: Sarkis Marootian
Judge's name: Vahagni Artashian
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For the record, I would never in a million years think that the only problem was the probation system. The rehabilitation is paltry at best: they like to try to put Band-Aids on 3-in gashes that reach down to the muscle. Nothing will heal. Now bring in the PP (Pharmaceutical Pimps), jacking people full of experimental serotonin reuptake inhibitors etc. The underlying psychiatric issues will not even be touched! Jack his ass full of chemicals, put on a few Band-Aids, and like you said SUDDENLY TAKE AWAY SOME FUNDING, and leave him strung out, going to withdrawals, still wearing Band-Aids....
Oh let's not forget, let him watch 30 hours of goody two shoes videos which tell him to love his neighbors and community to try to do good works and be positive! Yes those videos will do the trick.
Then the damage done in jail..... I skipped it to 7 minutes and 30 seconds like you said.... Lord have mercy.... "It's not like he didn't have it coming".....
Who can make it through all that in one piece?
I don't know how you knew this, I actually did flip 2 times in a similar situation like you said about Mrizi I Zanave (had to look that one up).... but....I am Armenian though, not Albanian, but I get your point! Irish kid (the same a****** who taunted me during high School with "camel jockey", "hairy guru") called me "sand n*gger" to his friends as I exited Al-Fattal Syrian Armenian grocery in Patterson New Jersey in the 1990s. "Hey Terzian did you shave your back today?" "What's that shit in the bag? Camel shit? Sand n*gger!". I basically freaked out, dropped my bag of dzhash, yaprak dolma, kibbeh, lahmajoon, $20 bucks worth, and grabbed his throat with my left hand and punched him straight in the stomach knocking the wind out of him badly. The Armenian food in the bag survived and I jumped on the 190 bus across the street and got out of there. The kid's mother pressed charges against me. I could have got up to 90 days and $500 fine but the judge threw out the time and I had to pay $400. Interesting side note: my public defender said it was the first time that judge threw out the time on a simple assault. I suspect a reason is because:
Public defender's name: Sarkis Marootian
Judge's name: Vahagni Artashian
My bad bro, hope that doesnt make me too racist Albanian, Armenian, meh, all the same!!! Doh!:-\
I'm sorry Sir!:bowdown:
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I need writer's anonymous. I know I type too much.
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I need writer's anonymous. I know I type too much.
No you are cool man. Very few people I have ever met in my 50 something years even know what Armenian is and most people do say Romanian or Albanian in place of it.
Armenian is like a combination of Iranian and Anatolian. Basically Middle Eastern.
No need for writers anonymous. I enjoy your extensive and voluminous posting very much and it makes this site very entertaining and interesting all at once.
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Central Ward, 2001... pffft...I left Ill-Town/Brick City in 2003 for Flatbush, and it hasnt changed at all.... poor little 2 year old girl today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LGH7ATjOTc
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when these types of suspects are caught- given the power I would always make an example out of them. Life imprisonment. No parole. Assigned the booty warrior's ward.
Period.
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How can you both claim it is 'becoming scary' and then suggest 'it hasn't changed at all'?
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How can you both claim it is 'becoming scary' and then suggest 'it hasn't changed at all'?
uh for me? metaphorically speaking?!:dontknow:
I've written way too much to know if I stated or suggested it is becoming scary, you'd have to quote me then i will acknowledge it. Otherwise I think my posts are consistent with making a claim: not all the videos suggest criminal behavior. I claimed some in the videos appeared to be suffering from mental illnesses.
I then spent several posts backing that up.
I ended it with not so much disagreeing with the discussion between @Master & @NoSavingByTheBell rather making another claim: parole reviews dont change much. I then attempted to make a claim that the bigger issue isn't early parole, rather the inabiulity to rehabilitate people after incarceration- then add on mentally illl who get locked up & let out- I then asked could there be a huge % of sick people treated like criminals? His 1st video is undeniable---- everyone involved seemed mentally unstable. Very!
When I did make a 1st suggestion it dealt with what all news agencies that are now stating- recently-a spike in hate crimes against Asians. I have never seen so many violent acts against Asians.
I can't speak for @NoSavingByTheBell. I just have an opinion on his view(s) his posts, videos and overall thread of New York City is becoming scary.
He's seen crime, sickness, infestation in NY his whole life, but it was in pockets of the city. It (crime) wasn't as casual, with so many not willing to do anything but walk by.
Plus with cellphones recording, one may have not noticed it may have always been bad, because there wasnt instant media until the past 2 decades.
Now everytime we turn on the tv, surf the internet one can raise the claim: things were always fucked up, but not THIS FUCKED UP.
Might not be the answer you want, but it's all I got.O0
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How can you both claim it is 'becoming scary' and then suggest 'it hasn't changed at all'?
Ok the ones i was refering to wasnt the 1st, here's the ones that got me -changing topic on why it is becoming scarier? Mental Illness is all around!
Check out those videos & give your honest take on what you're viewing.
A man is fighting ass booty butt naked man!;D Mental illness...on the rise?:confused:
And then the 2nd video- the woman is whoopin ass for her man! he can't fight! And the dude they're fighting, then peep the people's reaction- like what U claim I guess- they're used to it.
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How can you both claim it is 'becoming scary' and then suggest 'it hasn't changed at all'?
uh for me? metaphorically speaking?!:dontknow:
I've written way too much to know if I stated or suggested it is
becoming scary, you'd have to quote me then i will acknowledge it. Otherwise I think my posts are consistent with making a claim: not all the videos suggest criminal behavior. I claimed some in the videos appeared to be suffering from mental illnesses.
I then spent several posts backing that up.
I ended it with not so much disagreeing with the discussion between @
Master & @
NoSavingByTheBell rather making another claim: parole reviews dont change much. I then attempted to make a claim that the bigger issue isn't early parole, rather the inabiulity to rehabilitate people after incarceration- then add on mentally illl who get locked up & let out- I then asked could there be a huge % of sick people treated like criminals? His 1st video is undeniable---- everyone involved seemed mentally unstable. Very!
When I did make a 1st suggestion it dealt with what all news agencies that are now stating- recently-a spike in hate crimes against Asians. I have never seen so many violent acts against Asians.
I can't speak for @
NoSavingByTheBell. I just have an opinion on his view(s) his posts, videos and overall thread of New York City is
becoming scary.
He's seen crime, sickness, infestation in NY his whole life, but it was in pockets of the city. It (crime) wasn't as casual, with so many not willing to do anything but walk by.
Plus with cellphones recording, one may have not noticed it may have always been bad, because there wasnt instant media until the past 2 decades.
Now everytime we turn on the tv, surf the internet one can raise the claim: things were always fucked up, but not THIS FUCKED UP.
Might not be the answer you want, but it's all I got.O0
Yes I was asking Brock but no worries, thanks for your thoughts.
If you go looking for it you will find it. I am not suggesting that all it is , is conformation bias, but it certainly half the reason. The cellphone and trashy re-posting of street violence as entertainment has become normalised and doing that again here, just reinforces that idea.
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Beanz
How can you both claim it is 'becoming scary' and then suggest 'it hasn't changed at all'?
uh for me? metaphorically speaking?!:dontknow:
I've written way too much to know if I stated or suggested it is
becoming scary, you'd have to quote me then i will acknowledge it. Otherwise I think my posts are consistent with making a claim: not all the videos suggest criminal behavior. I claimed some in the videos appeared to be suffering from mental illnesses.
I then spent several posts backing that up.
I ended it with not so much disagreeing with the discussion between @
Master & @
NoSavingByTheBell rather making another claim: parole reviews dont change much. I then attempted to make a claim that the bigger issue isn't early parole, rather the inabiulity to rehabilitate people after incarceration- then add on mentally illl who get locked up & let out- I then asked could there be a huge % of sick people treated like criminals? His 1st video is undeniable---- everyone involved seemed mentally unstable. Very!
When I did make a 1st suggestion it dealt with what all news agencies that are now stating- recently-a spike in hate crimes against Asians. I have never seen so many violent acts against Asians.
I can't speak for @
NoSavingByTheBell. I just have an opinion on his view(s) his posts, videos and overall thread of New York City is
becoming scary.
He's seen crime, sickness, infestation in NY his whole life, but it was in pockets of the city. It (crime) wasn't as casual, with so many not willing to do anything but walk by.
Plus with cellphones recording, one may have not noticed it may have always been bad, because there wasnt instant media until the past 2 decades.
Now everytime we turn on the tv, surf the internet one can raise the claim: things were always fucked up, but not THIS FUCKED UP.
Might not be the answer you want, but it's all I got.O0
Yes I was asking Brock but no worries, thanks for your thoughts.
If you go looking for it you will find it. I am not suggesting that all it is , is conformation bias, but it certainly half the reason. The cellphone and trashy re-posting of street violence as entertainment has become normalised and doing that again here, just reinforces that idea.
Yeah, I think Slim made some good points as to why it may seem like it's an overall situation in NYC.
The increase in violence against Asians is certainly a real concern, and one we can thank our former "President" for. (Excuse the quote marks. I just can't bring myself to assign that title, even post-term, to ol' Donnie).
But probably most of all... the dual phenomena of social media and cell phones with video capability is likely mostly to blame for the perception that things are worse than ever.
Granted... you'll see a bit of everything in a place like NYC. It's like a smorgasbord of crime. :-\
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Beanz
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Originally Posted by
SlimTrae
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
How can you both claim it is 'becoming scary' and then suggest 'it hasn't changed at all'?
.O0
Yes I was asking Brock but no worries, thanks for your thoughts.
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The Hagler in me, The Nigel Benn in me! no Floyd, Broner cherry picking posts. I take on even the aww-shit:o , he replied posts!:cool:
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Originally Posted by
SlimTrae
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
How can you both claim it is 'becoming scary' and then suggest 'it hasn't changed at all'?
uh for me? metaphorically speaking?!:dontknow:
I've written way too much to know if I stated or suggested it is
becoming scary, you'd have to quote me then i will acknowledge it. Otherwise I think my posts are consistent with making a claim: not all the videos suggest criminal behavior. I claimed some in the videos appeared to be suffering from mental illnesses.
I then spent several posts backing that up.
I ended it with not so much disagreeing with the discussion between @
Master & @
NoSavingByTheBell rather making another claim: parole reviews dont change much. I then attempted to make a claim that the bigger issue isn't early parole, rather the inabiulity to rehabilitate people after incarceration- then add on mentally illl who get locked up & let out- I then asked could there be a huge % of sick people treated like criminals? His 1st video is undeniable---- everyone involved seemed mentally unstable. Very!
When I did make a 1st suggestion it dealt with what all news agencies that are now stating- recently-a spike in hate crimes against Asians. I have never seen so many violent acts against Asians.
I can't speak for @
NoSavingByTheBell. I just have an opinion on his view(s) his posts, videos and overall thread of New York City is
becoming scary.
He's seen crime, sickness, infestation in NY his whole life, but it was in pockets of the city. It (crime) wasn't as casual, with so many not willing to do anything but walk by.
Plus with cellphones recording, one may have not noticed it may have always been bad, because there wasnt instant media until the past 2 decades.
Now everytime we turn on the tv, surf the internet one can raise the claim: things were always fucked up, but not THIS FUCKED UP.
Might not be the answer you want, but it's all I got.O0
well said
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NoSavingByTheBell
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SlimTrae
things were always fucked up, but not THIS FUCKED UP.
.O0
well said
Seeing how there can be 2 ways to say things are F'd up, reminded me of a scene where there were 2 ways to say- Take care of him!
https://youtu.be/SUyGG4PmELA
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Why all the virtue signaling, at mentioning people to try and impress everyone with how rough the area you used to live in is? I really do not understand this need to focus on such negative stuff all the time. I see it on facebook and other boxing groups where it ends up getting spammed with street fights, usually of people who could never compete in the square circle or even in a proper bare knuckle contest. Each to their own but Saddo used to be better than this.
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Very interesting thread, I love Manhattan one of my favourite restaurants is there 3 Michelin Star Eleven Madison Park.
I personally haven't seen both sides of the coin, so please guys feel free to share your experiences of NYC as I find it interesting.
I'm sure some of you have stories to tell.