Re: Heavyweights who didnt acheive greatness but could of in a different era ???
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.....Because you have previously said, that at that time you had him as number 1!!
No, never had him at #1, I may of rated him second to Ali in 88, but I was 14 years old ;)
The truth is, as time goes by, Tyson's star fades in my mind, whilst someone like Ali's star burns brighter. Because Ali had redemption.
Re: Heavyweights who didnt acheive greatness but could of in a different era ???
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Yea to say Wlad or Brewster would beat Tyson is really laughable and nothing else.. Come on. Vitali would have a shot.
You are not reading what I said; Wlad has all the tools to not just beat him, but to
easily beat him. Brewster I said was a 3 in 10 shot.
Tyson never, ever beat someone who stood up to him. ;)
And I suppose from his losses to ROSS PURRITY, LAMON BREWSTER, and CORRIE SANDERS, you couldn't deduct the same thing about Wlad? Come on... And not to mention the fact that Tyson was simply faster and Wlad could not take his power for one second. As for Brewster, really.. That's just hilarious, Lamon would be cannon fodder for a prime Tyson.. But he wasn't for Wlad. Wonder why..
Styles make fights, Tyson always struggled (and that included in his prime), against big tall athletic fighters. And Wlad has all the tools to beat Tyson, even more so than his brother. Wlad would beat Tyson in his prime, more than he would lose to Tyson.
Brewster is a serious puncher, who would land a bomb and beat Tyson in 30% of bouts, if had met whilst both were in their prime.
Tyson lacks certain mental tools to be this great 'god like figure' some people perceive him to be IMO.
Re: Heavyweights who didnt acheive greatness but could of in a different era ???
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Yea to say Wlad or Brewster would beat Tyson is really laughable and nothing else.. Come on. Vitali would have a shot.
You are not reading what I said; Wlad has all the tools to not just beat him, but to
easily beat him. Brewster I said was a 3 in 10 shot.
Tyson never, ever beat someone who stood up to him. ;)
And I suppose from his losses to ROSS PURRITY, LAMON BREWSTER, and CORRIE SANDERS, you couldn't deduct the same thing about Wlad? Come on... And not to mention the fact that Tyson was simply faster and Wlad could not take his power for one second. As for Brewster, really.. That's just hilarious, Lamon would be cannon fodder for a prime Tyson.. But he wasn't for Wlad. Wonder why..
Styles make fights, Tyson always struggled (and that included in his prime), against big tall athletic fighters. And Wlad has all the tools to beat Tyson, even more so than his brother. Wlad would beat Tyson in his prime, more than he would lose to Tyson.
Brewster is a serious puncher, who would land a bomb and beat Tyson in 30% of bouts, if had met whilst both were in their prime.
Tyson lacks certain mental tools to be this great 'god like figure' some people perceive him to be IMO.
if thats the case then im tired of hearing how awful this era of heavys are compared to years past ................ i dont know how u can say a prime tyson--who is going to the hall of fame..gets kayoed by two guys who arent even good enough to sleep on the fronts steps in wlad and brewster.........i mean a shot mike tyson kayoed cliff etienne withe first punch he threw and lamon lost to that same etieene...............and cliff has no chin..........
Re: Heavyweights who didnt acheive greatness but could of in a different era ???
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if thats the case then im tired of hearing how awful this era of heavys are compared to years past ................ i dont know how u can say a prime tyson--who is going to the hall of fame..gets kayoed by two guys who arent even good enough to sleep on the fronts steps in wlad and brewster.........i mean a shot mike tyson kayoed cliff etienne withe first punch he threw and lamon lost to that same etieene...............and cliff has no chin..........
Well there you go then ;)
The fighters today would beat most of the heavyweights of yesteryear, because of evolution, even the likes prime Tyson, would give up two stone to the monsters of today.
It is just common sense that a 215lb (5'7" to 5'11", depending on who you talk to) prime Tyson, just could not be excepted to come out on top of a battle with a 240lb 6'8" athlete like Wlad.
But of course Tyson at his best, was much the finer fighter, and damn sight more entertaining than Wlad; who is arguable the most exciting Heavyweight today.
Re: Heavyweights who didnt acheive greatness but could of in a different era ???
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if thats the case then im tired of hearing how awful this era of heavys are compared to years past ................ i dont know how u can say a prime tyson--who is going to the hall of fame..gets kayoed by two guys who arent even good enough to sleep on the fronts steps in wlad and brewster.........i mean a shot mike tyson kayoed cliff etienne withe first punch he threw and lamon lost to that same etieene...............and cliff has no chin..........
Well there you go then ;)
The fighters today would beat most of the heavyweights of yesteryear, because of evolution, even the likes prime Tyson, would give up two stone to the monsters of today.
It is just common sense that a 215lb (5'7" to 5'11", depending on who you talk to) prime Tyson, just could not be excepted to come out on top of a battle with a 240lb 6'8" athlete like Wlad.
But of course Tyson at his best, was much the finer fighter, and damn sight more entertaining than Wlad; who is arguable the most exciting Heavyweight today.
Tyson ain't 5'7", more like 5'10", and he'd kill either Klitschko, both in one night.
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he would beat them both twice in the same nite
ill tell u what---he would knock wlad out if they fought tomorrow
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he would beat them both twice in the same nite
ill tell u what---he would knock wlad out if they fought tomorrow
LOL [click] ;)
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Yea to say Wlad or Brewster would beat Tyson is really laughable and nothing else.. Come on. Vitali would have a shot.
You are not reading what I said; Wlad has all the tools to not just beat him, but to
easily beat him. Brewster I said was a 3 in 10 shot.
Tyson never, ever beat someone who stood up to him. ;)
And I suppose from his losses to ROSS PURRITY, LAMON BREWSTER, and CORRIE SANDERS, you couldn't deduct the same thing about Wlad? Come on... And not to mention the fact that Tyson was simply faster and Wlad could not take his power for one second. As for Brewster, really.. That's just hilarious, Lamon would be cannon fodder for a prime Tyson.. But he wasn't for Wlad. Wonder why..
Styles make fights, Tyson always struggled (and that included in his prime), against big tall athletic fighters. And Wlad has all the tools to beat Tyson, even more so than his brother. Wlad would beat Tyson in his prime, more than he would lose to Tyson.
Brewster is a serious puncher, who would land a bomb and beat Tyson in 30% of bouts, if had met whilst both were in their prime.
Tyson lacks certain mental tools to be this great 'god like figure' some people perceive him to be IMO.
What? Tyson would destroy Wlad Klitschko and Brewster in his prime and that's not perceiving Tyson as a 'God like figure' that is just an honest observation.
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I'm sure Britkid would agree.
After Tyson beat Spinks the only direction for him to go was "down" I mean what other goals were there to accomplish at Heavyweight?
I also want to make reference to you saying he struggled with anyone who stood up to him.
Well britkid, are you saying that Frank Bruno just backed away from him ;)
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Tommy Morrison, Frank Bruno, Razor Rudduck, Ray Mercer, and Gerry Cooney would be title holders if they were in their prime right now
You know that my friend :coolclick: I think a prime Morrison would slaughter these fringe contenders
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Well britkid, are you saying that Frank Bruno just backed away from him ;)
Did you see how many times Bomber crossed himself? He was petrified!!! He fought bravely in the first fight, but the second was a horrendous. A perfectly winnable fight, but we saw a 15 year vet, who had been world class for 10 years, bottle it against a man 6 inches and 20+lbs lighter, and who was 8 years past his best... ;)
As George Foreman alluded to on the night, the man was a disgrace.
