Re: POLL:Who Has The Best Chance of Beating PBF?
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Originally Posted by meowza
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Originally Posted by shza
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It was the speed that allowed Judah to do some good work early on.
Hatton doesn't have that kind of speed by any means.
I think Floyd would rake him all night long with counters.
Floyd sucks the confidence right out of you.
If Hatton's swinging all night long and getting whacked three times every time he throws, that's gotta be discouraging to Hatton who usually has guys standing right in front of him.
If I HAD to pick someone from the list to beat Floyd, I'd say Oscar.
I think Oscar could take a fairly boring close decision against Floyd.
I hate the idea of Floyd-Oscar.
The risk isn't worth the reward for Floyd.
So what if Floyd beats a twilight Oscar? And help me gawd if he loses...
Horrible fight choice.
I agree with everything here. Except the risk/reward bit on Mayweather/ODH. I agree there are more exciting fights to make, but this one is clearly the single biggest moneymaker (by FAR) in all of boxing right now. Except ODH/Tyson. ;D
Oh yeah if we're talking money, Floyd-ODLH is a tremendous reward for Floyd.
But I was speaking more on a historical point of view.
What would this fight even mean?
Floyd beats Oscar and Floyd's detractors will say, "Oh, he just beat an over-the-hill Oscar."
Floyd loses to Oscar and they'll say, "HAHA He couldn't beat an over-the-hill Oscar!"
It's a great name for the records and a great money maker, but career-wise and for Floyd's legacy that he wants to build, this fight doesn't do much.
i don't disagree, but money talks (especially money like this), and if this fight can happen it will. before any of those other fights.
i'd also point out that i think it's a bad idea for floyd to go up to 154 period. or to go there and come back down.
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Personally I think that if ODLH beats Mayorga then we will see ODLH v Mayweather taking place around October. These would get Mayweather a huge payday and an opportunity at a 154 lb title.
Re: POLL:Who Has The Best Chance of Beating PBF?
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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I think you guys are being too shortsighted. Mayweather's plan has always been to be a 5 weight world champ like De La Hoya. Now he's IBF welterweight champ he'll already be making plans to move up to 154lbs.
Maybe Margarito will get a shot, maybe Judah will be able to force a rematch but I don't see either of these fighters beating Mayweather, not even close.
Hatton has yet to fight at 147 lb and letsd be honest there is no way in hell he could make 154, he's only 5ft 6 and got short little arms 147 is is max weight limit.
So Hatton and Mayweather ain't going to be getting on in the near future. Hatton's destiny lies with Cotto and Castillo not Mayweather.
Mayweather will now have his sights on the 154lb division and so it's the following names that could be future opponents for him,
1) ODH, if he gets past Mayorga this would be the big one. A massive payday for both fighters and record PPV's outside the heavyweights. A 50/50 toss up imo.
2) Shane Mosely, Could take place at 147 or 154, a natural choice for Mayweather, big name, loads of PPV's
3)Kasim Ouma, quality fighter at 154, again big matchup
4)Karmazin, A big target for Mayweather, world champ but not the best in the division. Mayweather would take him on for the chance to be 5 weight champ. Great fight.
5)Joel Julio, Still learning and a year or two away from challenging for a world title but this kid could be the future at 154 lbs so a mega clash between the two could happen in late 2007. I reckon Julio has the best chance of all of them to beat Mayweather. Huge puncher, very big and strong for the weight, and suprisingly seeing as he has hardly any amateur background, he can box.
Good god I hope your wrong, although what your saying makes complete and utter sense in line with Mayweather's "dream". Maybe if someone could convince Mayweather fighting possibly legendary fights and gaining legit status as a champ (instead of just the IBF at WW and not facing the real champ at JW) would cement his "All time Great" status that he seeks a lot more than flying up the weights without facing his number 1 contenders.
All those who are considered All time greats, faced there biggest threats. De La Hoya might have also been a five weight champion but he also fought tough fights in the better parts of his career (Hopkins, Tito and Suger Shane to name a few).
Mayweather needs to be more concerned with possible great fights with Hatton, Cotto etc. rather than his "dream."
I think we lose sight of the fact that Mayweather HAS faced some of the best in each division. I mean he's got wins over Hernandez, Corrales, Chavez, Castillo (twice), Gatti and now Judah.
Come on, I don't see many other fighters with a better resume than that ;)
Yes, Floys has faced some of the great fighters at each weight. However, my point and major beef with mayweather is that he's calling himself the champ without beating THE MAN. At JW it was Ricky and Tsuyu before him, if he wants to do it at WW (as bizarre as it sounds) he's gotta beat Baldomir. Calling yourself the real champ means you have to beat the real champ, otherwise people see through it. (or at least that should do)
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I don't think anyone really recognizes him as THE champ at JWelter or Welter.
Just like Roy was never THE Heavy champ. Impressive feats, but paper nonetheless.
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I don't think anyone really recognizes him as THE champ at JWelter or Welter.
Just like Roy was never THE Heavy champ. Impressive feats, but paper nonetheless.
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If your right, then why on Earth should there be any weight behind Floyd's dream of being the fastest five weight champ????
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