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Corbyn believes that the United Kingdom has not fought a just war since World War II....but I suppose everyone agrees with that. :rolleyes:
Corbyn praised Fidel Castro as a champion of social justice :vd: the AVERAGE Cuba earns about $25 a month.....Fidel was worth roughly $900MILLION when he died.
But I'm sure Corbyn's version of Communism/Socialism will work just perfectly
That's @Gandalf version too.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Kumbaya 'n shit.
For fucks sake don't be daft Master. What a piss take.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustExactly. People are so quick to write her off. She is a Cracker Jack. She is on the money she is on the ball she knows her stuff period Gandalf is all into the trouser press crapQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
She is a lying two faced manipulative bitch with the blood of thousands on her hands. She can be no more trusted than a live grenade with the pin out. She has consistently voted to stop regulations being out into place to stop huge corporations avoiding tax whilst telling everyone this is what she will do. With a husband working for a trillion dollar investment find heavily invested in both Amazon and Starbucks it should come as no surprise just as it should not be news that for the last few years rather than make the corrupt bankers an their employers responsible for their greed and avarice she has burdened the average British tax payer with the bill. Austerity under her Government has continued to target the most poor and needy in order to maintain huge corporations and foreign oligarchs who have no cultural worth or investment in this country. She is in her dealing with The Saudi King and other extremists responsible for the most unpatriotic of actions dirtying the name of this country and selling off, OUR assets, to individual foreigners and communist regimes like China.
If you think we are misled by the media here imagine how clueless some interfering spoon fed foreigners like Brockton and Lyle are ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgVc7HH1uYQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFbNPAeZLck
Ah, a good lefty will never admit in public how far left they really are.....good to see that occurs even across the pond.
I know May's list is to try and win working class votes but the difference is Cameron would have not even attempted to pretend to care for this group.
Nice and current there. We are not allergic to words like Marxist and communist in this country Lyle as grown ups people can have a discussion without fear of catching socialism as though it is an STD. You are so hung up on words and yet the current government are silent over the thousands of terminally ill people found fit for work who died after being found able to work by an American company profiteering off their families compounded misery. ATOS etc have an abominable record and yet you are worried about a word. The Conservative CAPITALIST bastards are killing people here and now, and yet today May when confronted on it replies like a condescending zombie. It's really important because if you can not look after the vulnerable in your society, then whatever system you have, is not worth a damn. As the daughter of a Christian vicar you would have thought May might understand that principle, but apparently not, it's too complex for her.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Everything is pointing to a tory victory , Corbyn and his sidekick excel at being cunts.
I didn't vote for either party in the last election , however I wouldn't vote labour for a gold watch.
I have been so fucked over by the Tories I would not vote for them for a goldmine. They have got us further into debt and sold off everything to foreign companies. I don't earn £80, 000 + a year and so will have to be selfish and vote for them as the country is going to the dogs under May and her bunch of hooligans. I have a business to think about, and it and my families future, is fucked under May.
Do you think it is a Christian value to expect the Government to care for those in need? Hahaha, and Jesus called on his comrades "Ye, we can't be letting people starve and shit, let's protest this illegal Roman occupation and show them who we are this glorious May Day, all praise Marx!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Take a look at how well Venezuela, Cuba, and China care for their less fortunate populations while their leaders rake in big time cash......think Fidel Castro cared about the people he starved? He was busy counting his money. Same with Chavez!
Socialism/Communism is either the unluckiest form of economy ever....OR it doesn't fucking work and spits out monsters!
You are missing the point entirely. Whoever gets in it will be a capitalist system but the way you administer it is hugely important. My friend of 25+ years had his Independent living allowance drastically reduced by this current extreme form of capitalism. He can not use his arms, is very hard to understand so talks by pointing at words with a pointer on a helmet and propels himself around with one foot from his wheelchair. He has lived independently since his late teens and his allowance pays for a carer for a few hours a day. He does not use them to push his chair he uses them just so he can be fed and bathed , dressed etc. He has stood for councilor, is a life model, actor and is now studying for his masters in dance/choreography. They want him to go and live in a care home in his late 40's. His contribution to society is really important but not so much financially. Putting in a care home will kill him but for Tories they would say it makes financial sense. When Jesus used the example of the good Samaritan the whole point was, go and help someone different to you. Anyone can help their own. Even terrorists and Nazi Skinheads look after their own. The point is that as somebody so severely disabled him being seen to be independent and active around the city and university is invaluable. It educates and inspires because he is so different than most people. The government should acknowledge that and yes they should care for those in need. Fucking hell what kind of Government does not care for those in need?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongDo you think it is a Christian value to expect the Government to care for those in need? Hahaha, and Jesus called on his comrades "Ye, we can't be letting people starve and shit, let's protest this illegal Roman occupation and show them who we are this glorious May Day, all praise Marx!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Take a look at how well Venezuela, Cuba, and China care for their less fortunate populations while their leaders rake in big time cash......think Fidel Castro cared about the people he starved? He was busy counting his money. Same with Chavez!
Socialism/Communism is either the unluckiest form of economy ever....OR it doesn't fucking work and spits out monsters!
Anyone can care for those who look after themselves, and the Tories by shielded bankers who frivolously squandered millions whilst expecting the working man to buy out those banks who would have went bust, looked after their own. Society should not work like that.
Even Jesus the revolutionary paid his taxes saying that one should render unto Caesar what is Caesars. So what is the excuse of the Christians running huge corporations refusing to pay taxes that would fund caring for those in need?
Right, and Trump is worth hundreds of millions, half your country lives on food stamps and those who get seriously sick potentially go bankrupt. Yay for American capitalism. Cuba is poor because of what your country did to it over decades of unjust sanctions and they still provided free health care to all.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Corbyn's version of socialism would work just fine as it has worked in practice in many countries around the world. You are just too blinkered to see that it is your own version of capitalism that is the elephant in the room. Most countries are nothing like America and do much better than America.
People really don't dislike you because of your 'freedoms'.
more off topic bollocks from Miles. May seriously does care about people, Cameron would not have even ventured into that area would he have now bitches? How fucking arrogant of the anti-may squad to just come out and say she doesnt care about people. How judgemental and bollocksed that knee-jerk prejudice is. What a bunch of cunts Corbyn and his sidekick act like.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfRight, and Trump is worth hundreds of millions, half your country lives on food stamps and those who get seriously sick potentially go bankrupt. Yay for American capitalism. Cuba is poor because of what your country did to it over decades of unjust sanctions and they still provided free health care to all.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Corbyn's version of socialism would work just fine as it has worked in practice in many countries around the world. You are just too blinkered to see that it is your own version of capitalism that is the elephant in the room. Most countries are nothing like America and do much better than America.
People really don't dislike you because of your 'freedoms'.
No miles Cuba is the way it is because it sided with the Soviet Union and Castro did nothing but enrich government workers at the cost of the plebeians. He went through with not one iota of the utopia he preached in the mountains. Clinton gave billions to North Korea to end nukes and help his country people, North Korea laughed as they finished the bomb while taking our money. It was a good faith attempt Clinton had and I respect him for itQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfRight, and Trump is worth hundreds of millions, half your country lives on food stamps and those who get seriously sick potentially go bankrupt. Yay for American capitalism. Cuba is poor because of what your country did to it over decades of unjust sanctions and they still provided free health care to all.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Corbyn's version of socialism would work just fine as it has worked in practice in many countries around the world. You are just too blinkered to see that it is your own version of capitalism that is the elephant in the room. Most countries are nothing like America and do much better than America.
People really don't dislike you because of your 'freedoms'.
It's very relevant actually Brock as the UK has impersonated America with neo liberalism which has been very costly to the people. Do you really think your healthcare system is any good with its layers and layers of beaurocrats shuffling paper? Do you think it provides good value for money? If the Brits vote Tory then that is likely what they are going to end up with. A US style health care system. Or would your prefer something where everyone is able to get care? Where everyone is able to have access to education? Where everyone has affordable utilities? Cuba has its faults, but it has done a lot of things right too. Given the same access to markets it would have done much better than it has.
Personally I favour a middle ground. Neither hardcore capitalist nor communist, pretty much what Jeremy Corbyn is advocating. Americans have jumbled up the meanings of words to such a degree that you have no idea what they are talking about sometimes. Jeremy Corbyn as a communist is one of the most bizarre things I have ever heard.
Brock, you are obviously trolling as no sane person ever has anything good to say about Theresa May. She is a charlatan, flip floppy mentalist.
I'm about to read a book about Cuba, so we can have this discussion another time. As for North Korea, I see few redeemable qualities, but I feel the same about a lot of regimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusNo miles Cuba is the way it is because it sided with the Soviet Union and Castro did nothing but enrich government workers at the cost of the plebeians. He went through with not one iota of the utopia he preached in the mountains. Clinton gave billions to North Korea to end nukes and help his country people, North Korea laughed as they finished the bomb while taking our money. It was a good faith attempt Clinton had and I respect him for itQuote:
Originally Posted by GandalfRight, and Trump is worth hundreds of millions, half your country lives on food stamps and those who get seriously sick potentially go bankrupt. Yay for American capitalism. Cuba is poor because of what your country did to it over decades of unjust sanctions and they still provided free health care to all.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Corbyn's version of socialism would work just fine as it has worked in practice in many countries around the world. You are just too blinkered to see that it is your own version of capitalism that is the elephant in the room. Most countries are nothing like America and do much better than America.
People really don't dislike you because of your 'freedoms'.