Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Cotto vs Judah.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
Now what.
Cotto did what he was suppose to do.
So?
Another thing the fight shoulda been stopped and IMO theres no reason why Zab needed to take that much punishment....
I'm a fan of the sport 1st and as much as I hate Zab I couldn't help but yell at my tv in between rounds for Yoel to stop it BUT judging by the talk that he was giving Zab Yoel wasn't stopping that fight no matter what.
Again, theres no reason why Zab shoulda think that much punishment.
Cotto did what he was suppose to do.
Totally disagree alot of people on this forum had Judah winning and this fight as 50-50.
Cotto did what I said he would do and thats beat a waaaay past his best, career ending, has been Zab.
I'm happy he won, it was a helluva fight but I knew all along he'd win...
And not sure where your getting the 50/50 from but go into all the threads here and you'll see it's not 50/50 go to the fight news poll NOT 50/50.
Go through my the threads and see what I've said all along.
I repeat; He did what he was suppose to do.
Thats not true Judah was not wayyyyyyyyy past his best at all he looked as good as his ever looked in the past and i didn't mean exactly 50/50 but alot of people had it 50/50 there was no clear winner i picked Cotto to win by 10th round stoppage but there was loads of peeps here that were picking Judah.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Cotto vs Judah.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Thats not true Judah was not wayyyyyyyyy past his best at all he looked as good as his ever looked in the past and i didn't mean exactly 50/50 but alot of people had it 50/50 there was no clear winner i picked Cotto to win by 10th round stoppage but there was loads of peeps here that were picking Judah.
If the loss to Baldomir didn't tell you he was done then what will?
Go through my posts Zabs a has been, he was done and waayyy past it.
Fighting 3 good rounds against PBF or for that matter anyone isn't good enough. YOu don't get shit! for fighting a few good rounds, you do however get a lot by wining fights.
Those people that had it 50/50 on a winner only gave Zab about 3 rounds to do it. Now think about it is that REALLY 50/50... I think not....
How can a fight be 50/50 on 3 rds for 1 fighter to do it. When the fights scheduled for 12 rds. that leaves 9 rds. for the other fighter.
50/50..... nah! I think not....
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Cotto vs Judah.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Thats not true Judah was not wayyyyyyyyy past his best at all he looked as good as his ever looked in the past and i didn't mean exactly 50/50 but alot of people had it 50/50 there was no clear winner i picked Cotto to win by 10th round stoppage but there was loads of peeps here that were picking Judah.
If the loss to Baldomir didn't tell you he was done then what will?
Go through my posts Zabs a has been, he was done and waayyy past it.
Fighting 3 good rounds against PBF or for that matter anyone isn't good enough. YOu don't get shit! for fighting a few good rounds, you do however get a lot by wining fights.
Those people that had it 50/50 on a winner only gave Zab about 3 rounds to do it. Now think about it is that REALLY 50/50... I think not....
How can a fight be 50/50 on 3 rds for 1 fighter to do it. When the fights scheduled for 12 rds. that leaves 9 rds. for the other fighter.
50/50..... nah! I think not....
Zab didn't look done against Cotto, he looked pretty good, Cotto just beat him. I think he could win another title at 147.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Cotto vs Judah.
Zab Judah isn't done.... he just isn't the fighter people thought he could be. The Zab I saw against Cotto was similar to the Zab I've been watching for years.... flashes of effectiveness, but never enough consistency to win a big fight.
Zab is today exactly what he was before last weekend... a top 10 welterweight. Nothing more, nothing less.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Cotto vs Judah.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Thats not true Judah was not wayyyyyyyyy past his best at all he looked as good as his ever looked in the past and i didn't mean exactly 50/50 but alot of people had it 50/50 there was no clear winner i picked Cotto to win by 10th round stoppage but there was loads of peeps here that were picking Judah.
If the loss to Baldomir didn't tell you he was done then what will?
Go through my posts Zabs a has been, he was done and waayyy past it.
Fighting 3 good rounds against PBF or for that matter anyone isn't good enough. YOu don't get S***! for fighting a few good rounds, you do however get a lot by wining fights.
Those people that had it 50/50 on a winner only gave Zab about 3 rounds to do it. Now think about it is that REALLY 50/50... I think not....
How can a fight be 50/50 on 3 rds for 1 fighter to do it. When the fights scheduled for 12 rds. that leaves 9 rds. for the other fighter.
50/50..... nah! I think not....
He done well against p4p number 1 thats pretty good achievement and this was as good as Judah has ever looked in the past and showed the most heart he has ever shown in the past that shows you how much he trained and how much this fight ment to him this was one of the best Judah performances.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Cotto vs Judah.
Whilst I think quite a few people here tought Zab might win,I would not call it a 50-50 fight. IF Cotto had lost,it would have been a shock to me. I still think Torres gave Miguel his toughest fight to date and as for Zab,it's the same Zab we've been seeing for years albeit it sounded like he prepared as well as he could have done. Zab also showed more heart than before and gets kudos from me for that.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Cotto vs Judah.
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Zab didn't look done against Cotto, he looked pretty good, Cotto just beat him. I think he could win another title at 147.
How can a fighter look pretty good when he was landing at the most 3 good shots per round.
Zab looked good in round 1 and thats about it.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Cotto vs Judah.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Whilst I think quite a few people here tought Zab might win,I would not call it a 50-50 fight. IF Cotto had lost,it would have been a shock to me. I still think Torres gave Miguel his toughest fight to date and as for Zab,it's the same Zab we've been seeing for years albeit it sounded like he prepared as well as he could have done. Zab also showed more heart than before and gets kudos from me for that.
yeah but as we've seen Torres sucks. was beat by Arnaoutis. And Kendall Holt should beat him unless he gets caught AGAIN!!! ::**
I think the Torres fight was just a case of Cotto making the fight more difficult for himself then it needed to be.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Cotto vs Judah.
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Whilst I think quite a few people here tought Zab might win,I would not call it a 50-50 fight. IF Cotto had lost,it would have been a shock to me. I still think Torres gave Miguel his toughest fight to date and as for Zab,it's the same Zab we've been seeing for years albeit it sounded like he prepared as well as he could have done. Zab also showed more heart than before and gets kudos from me for that.
yeah but as we've seen Torres sucks. was beat by Arnaoutis. And Kendall Holt should beat him unless he gets caught AGAIN!!! ::**
I think the Torres fight was just a case of Cotto making the fight more difficult for himself then it needed to be.
Regardless of what the situation,at the end of the day,Miguel had a much much more difficult time with Torres than with Zab.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Zab didn't look done against Cotto, he looked pretty good, Cotto just beat him. I think he could win another title at 147.
How can a fighter look pretty good when he was landing at the most 3 good shots per round.
Zab looked good in round 1 and thats about it.
Totally agree Mick. Zab,heart aside,didn't show me much. He threw that looping uppercut which Cotto should not have been caught with because even I could see it coming from a mile away and the odd straight left hand and.......
This fight,although showing Zab does have some heart,also showed him limitations to the MAX. He is not an A grade fighter and does not belong with the elite. He is now 1-4 at WW(I think),thats far from impressive.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Cotto vs Judah.
Judah has never been that active though he always has low workrate.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Cotto vs Judah.
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
Zab Judah isn't done.... he just isn't the fighter people thought he could be. The Zab I saw against Cotto was similar to the Zab I've been watching for years.... flashes of effectiveness, but never enough consistency to win a big fight.
Zab is today exactly what he was before last weekend... a top 10 welterweight. Nothing more, nothing less.
Think SweetPea nailed it here. Judah is a guy who will always present problems but the best welterweights fight through them. He had a good first round, and then got swept out.
The fight went pretty much exactly as I expected it to. Not going to thumb through post but I really believed Zab was going to get beat up, and he did. He gave Cotto problems, but no way did I think this was an even matchup and to be honest I got a little annoyed when everyone thought Judah was being sold short. He wasn't, that is Judah. The Judah that lost to Cotto, I really do believe is the same Judah that beat Spinks and lost to Tszyu. It's just Zab.
Congrats to Cotto, I knew he would win over a lot of fans and he did. Still think he looked better in the Quintana fight though, he got caught coming forward which is something Quintana couldn't do and I thought most fighters wouldn't be able to do.
Still, looked great even on Youtube. Been saying this for a while now but...
Mayweather - Cotto 08 8)
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Cotto vs Judah.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Props must go to Amat and Danny G who called this fight correctly too.
There we go Gamo 8)
And yeah, I'm ecstatic for Cotto because I feel at this point the sky is the limit. Or at least Floyd is the limit. I think right now, with Floyd at 154, that Cotto is the best welterweight on the planet.
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Cotto vs Judah.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Zab didn't look done against Cotto, he looked pretty good, Cotto just beat him. I think he could win another title at 147.
How can a fighter look pretty good when he was landing at the most 3 good shots per round.
Zab looked good in round 1 and thats about it.
yea, he looked real good in round 1, up until he got punched in the balls >:mad
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Cotto vs Judah.
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Zab didn't look done against Cotto, he looked pretty good, Cotto just beat him. I think he could win another title at 147.
How can a fighter look pretty good when he was landing at the most 3 good shots per round.
Zab looked good in round 1 and thats about it.
yea, he looked real good in round 1, up until he got punched in the balls >:mad
Judah always has great first round then loses the plot after :(
Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...Cotto vs Judah.
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
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Originally Posted by CutMeMick
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Zab didn't look done against Cotto, he looked pretty good, Cotto just beat him. I think he could win another title at 147.
How can a fighter look pretty good when he was landing at the most 3 good shots per round.
Zab looked good in round 1 and thats about it.
yea, he looked real good in round 1, up until he got punched in the balls >:mad
PBF got hit in the ball followed with a punch to the back of the head and still won a fight.
Go figure? ???
