Don't you chaps listen to little Master. He parrots mainstream articles and thinks everything is hunky dory. He would play the violin as the Titanic sinks. What a dick.
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Don't you chaps listen to little Master. He parrots mainstream articles and thinks everything is hunky dory. He would play the violin as the Titanic sinks. What a dick.
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Originally Posted by Gandalf
You sound like a broken record. Trying to make out that you are against the establishment and being clever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
You are far from that. You may fool your gimp followers but you are not fooling me.
You sound like a recycled headline from the fake news: "Pieces of eight, pieces of eight".Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou sound like a broken record. Trying to make out that you are against the establishment and being clever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
You are far from that. You may fool your gimp followers but you are not fooling me.
Truth hurts.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfYou sound like a recycled headline from the fake news: "Pieces of eight, pieces of eight".Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou sound like a broken record. Trying to make out that you are against the establishment and being clever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
You are far from that. You may fool your gimp followers but you are not fooling me.
You will get over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterTruth hurts.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfYou sound like a recycled headline from the fake news: "Pieces of eight, pieces of eight".Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou sound like a broken record. Trying to make out that you are against the establishment and being clever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
You are far from that. You may fool your gimp followers but you are not fooling me.
I have nothing to get over. You are the one with issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfYou will get over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterTruth hurts.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfYou sound like a recycled headline from the fake news: "Pieces of eight, pieces of eight".Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou sound like a broken record. Trying to make out that you are against the establishment and being clever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
You are far from that. You may fool your gimp followers but you are not fooling me.
"You are far from that. You may fool your gimp followers but you are not fooling me." - Master.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI have nothing to get over. You are the one with issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfYou will get over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterTruth hurts.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfYou sound like a recycled headline from the fake news: "Pieces of eight, pieces of eight".Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou sound like a broken record. Trying to make out that you are against the establishment and being clever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
You are far from that. You may fool your gimp followers but you are not fooling me.
You are not fooling me either, I see right through you.
Nothing to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf"You are far from that. You may fool your gimp followers but you are not fooling me." - Master.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI have nothing to get over. You are the one with issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfYou will get over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterTruth hurts.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfYou sound like a recycled headline from the fake news: "Pieces of eight, pieces of eight".Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou sound like a broken record. Trying to make out that you are against the establishment and being clever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
You are far from that. You may fool your gimp followers but you are not fooling me.
You are not fooling me either, I see right through you.
@Master I shall not stand for #harshwords to miles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOl1BcrlekM
......well that should clear up this IG report, nothing more to see here lol
I'm not upset, I'm entertained. There are some people you can fool all of the time, and history shows that you, Lyle, are one of the people who can be fooled all of the time. That means that as this Q anon scammer keeps making predictions and they keep not happening you will double, triple, quadruple, quintuple etc etc down and be even more convinced of the inevitable result where Obama and Hillary are arrested and thousands of deep state types are rounded up and sent to Guantanamo. At least that's what's supposed to happen, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWell you seem unreasonably upset dear Kirkland if it's all a LARP if it's all phony then you have 0 to worry about.....why so upset Kirk?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
If there's no more digging into the IG report, if there's no sealed indictments for Huma and Podesta, if all this is a silly conspiracy theory then you lose nothing Kirkland.
Time will tell, but right now things are in tip top shape....might even say tippy top shape ;D
I need to find a nice handy link where all the latest Q anon stuff is posted so we can keep a check on what he claims is going to happen versus what will actually happen. Can you recommend one Lyle? Where do you get your Q anon stuff from?
By the way, what is in these sealed indictments for Huma and Podesta? What are they guilty of?
Again, a how satisfied are you graph will be an unbroken gradually rising line from the depths of the last recession to now. 90% of that gradual rise was under Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
And Strozk doesn't seem to be too bothered about testifying, does he? Is he supposed to be going to jail too?
That's great but during the Obama Administration, during his time in office, Obama never broke 3% growth and he constantly complained that the economy was W's....but now that Obama's out of office the economy is Obama's? :headscratch:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Stzrok is a cooperating witness...he probably could have gone to jail, but either way he'll be out of a job once he's done testifying just like Lisa Page is out of a job. It's moving the ball forward and you're not going to like where the ball is going Kirkland.
Trump hasn't broken 3% growth either. That's yearly growth. He has cracked 3% quarterly growth but Obama did over 5% growth for a couple of quarters. And Trump will only crack3% due to a massive tax cut that goes almost entirely to the top 1% and means you're now running trillion dollar deficits in the middle of an economic expansion. Obama inherited an economy that was just starting the biggest recession since 1929. When he took office the economy was losing a million jobs a month. It's fair to attribute the initial year or so to the economic meltdown caused entirely by his predecesor's policies. It's also worth noting that Trump is reversing Obama-era regulation, scrapping the Volcker rule and various other bank regulations, neutering the CFPB and so on, appointing a bunch of bank lobbyists to run the various regulatory offices etc which is creating the conditions for another financial meltdown.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThat's great but during the Obama Administration, during his time in office, Obama never broke 3% growth and he constantly complained that the economy was W's....but now that Obama's out of office the economy is Obama's? :headscratch:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Stzrok is a cooperating witness...he probably could have gone to jail, but either way he'll be out of a job once he's done testifying just like Lisa Page is out of a job. It's moving the ball forward and you're not going to like where the ball is going Kirkland.
The GOP have controlled all three branches of government three times in their modern incarnation Lyle. The first time was in the 1920s when their abdication of any regulation or oversight of the financial sector created a catastrophic financial meltdown. The second time was in the 2000s when their abdication of any regulation or oversight of the financial sector created a catastrophic financial meltdown. Now Trump is going for the hat trick.
Strozk isn't a cooperating witness. He hasn't been charged with anything and isn't cooperating as part of a plea bargain. There's nothing he's done that would lead to criminal charges and jail time. He would have to do something that breaks the terms of his employment to get fired and so far hasn't been shown to do anything that does that.
Where is the ball going Lyle? Tens of thousands of arrests of deep statists? Them all sent to Guantanamo? That's what Q says. What's in these indictments of Huma and Podesta?
Oh 1920s Republicans? But what of the whole "Muh parties switched" and "Muh southern strategy"? It's certainly 1 or the other Mr. Wanna blame Republicans for everything.
You will have to be patient Kirkland. I know that you want to just dismiss everything but wait and see.
The ball is right now rolling towards Stzrok who will testify. Rod Rosenstein will recuse himself or be impeached. And then they will delve into the next matters.
During this time the mullahs in Iran will struggle with controlling the population and there may even be a regime change in the coming months.
Wait and watch it's really all that you can do it's all any of us can do.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterfe.../#140764b121fb
Kirk it’s nice when u rewrite history to place blame on crisis on a particular group but it’s usually not that simple ie the subprime mess
Where is the outrage at Trump leaving the human rights council? Seeking to promote the laughable idea that it is anti-Israel?
Where is your outrage at kids being locked up in cages by a so called civilized country?
Where the fuck is your outrage at Trump boasting about only 64 people having lost their lives to the hurricane in Puerto Rico when the actual number is in excess of 4000 more than the number killed in 9/11.
What a load of tribal bullshit.
The UN is a piece of shit, the UN HRC is an even bigger piece of shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
As of 2018, Israel has been condemned in 78 resolutions by the UN Human Rights Council since its creation in 2006—the Council has resolved more resolutions condemning Israel than the rest of the world combined....how's that for "Laughably anti-Israel" ? Meanwhile the UN HRC's statement on Sudan, a country with MANY human rights abuses as documented by the Council's working groups, it has expressed "deep concern".....ah but no resolutions though :scratchchin:
LMAO, you mean the trafficked kids and "children" :rolleyes: ILLEGALLY entering the United States...THOSE kids....well they haven't been kept in cages since the Obama Administration. And again President Trump didn't write the law, he didn't make the law, he didn't vote on the law, he's enforcing the law as is his duty as President. It's CONGRESS who writes the laws and President Trump has called on them to act, and a House bill has been floated that would fix the problem but DEMOCRAT Chuck Schumer isn't finished using this crisis yet so he opposes fixing the situation. Abraham Lincoln said "The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly" and that is exactly what Trump is doing, but again it's not HIS place as President to write the laws, that is the job of CONGRESS. Anything done with an Executive Order can be UNdone with an Executive Order which is why Obama's legacy has withered away so quickly.
While the 64 number might not be true, the 4,000 number is kinda in doubt as well. It's an ESTIMATE.
Anything else you want to bitch about?
@walrus . Do you really think I was unaware of the UK selling many of weapons used by the Saudis on Yemen? What was the point of PM'ing that? What is it with you and Lyle and your insistence on pretending it is the US against the UK or Obama v Trump or any of that tribal shit. Do you really think everyone is else is like you?
It's you guys holding the reigns. The traditional conservative right on both sides of the pond doing exactly the same shit as the Democrats under Obama and New Labour did under Blair over here. The same MIC and deep state bullshit that YOU BOTH and bulbhead kept telling us all was a breath of fresh air, a new start, the alternative. The UK Government under May is a shit show just like your regime under Trump. Neither of you will say shit about him in order to try and save face. The guy is taking the piss out of you and making your country an even bigger laughing stock around the world with his insistence on screwing you over under the pretense of bringing about a change he has failed to deliver. Same old war machine.
@bff it’s just shows your endless hypocrisyQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
HERE ARE THE PHOTOS OF OBAMA’S ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT DETENTION FACILITIES THE MEDIA WON’T SHOW YOU
http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/19/ph...ion-facilities
The media and political class become more and more outraged over the Trump administration’s decision to detain and prosecute immigrants illegally crossing the border.
Lost in the debate is any acknowledgment that President Obama’s administration also used detention facilities.
Current U.S. immigration laws, when enforced, have the consequence of temporarily separating adults who arrive with children into separate detention facilities in order to prosecute the adults.
The policy of prosecuting immigrants for crossing the border illegally has been in place for multiple administrations. The Obama administration prosecuted half a million illegal immigrants and similarly separated families in the process. So did the Bush administration.
Why are children separated from their "parents" you might ask...funny story
JANET RENO, ATTORNEY GENERAL, et al., PETITIONERS v. JENNY LISETTE FLORES et al.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reno_v._Flores
Reno v. Flores, 507 U.S. 292 (1993) was a Supreme Court of the United States case in which the Court held that the Immigration and Naturalization Service’s regulations regarding the release of alien unaccompanied minors did not violate the Due Process Clause of the United States Constitution.
In 1997, the parties agreed to a consent decree in which the litigation would end once the government implemented certain standards for the detention, treatment, and release of unaccompanied alien minors. As of June 2018, the litigation is ongoing.
President Trump will be signing an Executive Order to try and fix the immediate situation but CONGRESS must pass laws to permanently fix that issue....and NO we're not taking anyone and everyone who can drag their carcass across the fucking border.
How? Fuck off Walrus that is not hypocrisy it is consistency. You can't have it both ways. You just can't handle a debate. I have always been against the MIC it is what you lot mock. "SJW protesting what a fool" How is that hypocrisy? I have never defended the MIC yet here you are pretending that everyone is as tribal as you are. You would not say shit if Trump bombed your back yard by the way you are carrying on.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus@bff it’s just shows your endless hypocrisyQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
You used those pictures Lyle. Where did I use them? Where did I claim that Obama's shit doesn't stink? You literally think that yourself and everyone else are better than the other humans on the side of a man made border don't you? ;D What a gullible fool. Just like Trump son of immigrants refusing to extend the same American hospitality his parents were shown in order to not have to give up anything himself, you are claiming to be a 'bit special' pretending that the lives of American kids are worth more than that of those from Yemen. Their work is done when they have you believing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
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Originally Posted by Beanz
Did I say "Beanz used these pictures"? Please point it out where I said YOU used those pictures.
American hospitality doesn't extend to ILLEGAL immigrants
Yes to ME an AMERICAN American kids ARE worth more...I pay the taxes for those kids' education you fucking idiot, those kids will end up paying into Social Security which I'll need in old age (probably wont' be there though because of the illegals), so I'm invested in them and they are invested in me and the entirety of Yemen can get fucked for all I care.
Lyle you are defending the indefensible AGAIN. Separating children from their families is not just a deep and entrenched part of American history it is a part of Colonial history. The British did it in Canada and Australia etc. Not even just the Brits, the Ottoman sultans did it to make janisseries, the fascists in Spain and Argentina did it.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Did I say "Beanz used these pictures"? Please point it out where I said YOU used those pictures.
American hospitality doesn't extend to ILLEGAL immigrants
Yes to ME an AMERICAN American kids ARE worth more...I pay the taxes for those kids' education you fucking idiot, those kids will end up paying into Social Security which I'll need in old age (probably wont' be there though because of the illegals), so I'm invested in them and they are invested in me and the entirety of Yemen can get fucked for all I care.
But you and Trump are blaming 'They' again. The Mexicans. The Yemens. The Obama administration. It was Jeff Sessions in May.
Stop making excuses for Politicians that would not hesitate to gun you down or bomb you if it keeps them in power.
YOU said he was different. Don't try and pretend everyone else is gullible. That time has passed and soon it could be your liberty that is at stake.
https://blavity.com/ripping-children...tm_source=zulu
There's far less chance of any kind of regime change in Iran after Trump has reimposed sanctions and ripped up the nuclear deal. Politicians and pundits on the Iranian version of Fox News are now saying see, we were right, there's no way to deal with the Americans. The regime now has something to blame for the economy not improving, any politician advocating neing more pro-western has a much tougher job making that argument with the Iranian people. And of course this Iran thing is part of the Q Anon nonsense, isn't it? Liberal westerners and the Iranian regime are working together to do something or other, right? Maybe John McCain will speak out in favour of Iranian reformers and that will spark a revolution over there. That is if he's allowed to under the terms of his deal with prosecutors. He's wearing an ankle monitor so they can keep an eye on him without locking him up, isn't that right? Even though he's been found guilty of whatever it is. And Huma too! And Chelsea! All wearing ankle monitors and somehow not locked up yet. And look at this fucknut. He wants to see the "real" IG report too. The one that Trump already has that will blow the lid off this whole conspiracy but so far he hasn't mad eit public yet. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/15/u...dam/index.html You said that the mainstream media would start covering qanon, well there's some coverage. And I know why you didn't want to read an article written by somebody called Rothschild. Because the Rothschild banking family are a huge part of this conspiracy. I should have known. And obviously anybody with the surname Rothschild is related to them. What do you think Strozk is going to say when he testifies? And what is Rosenstein hiding exactly? You know he's a Trump appointee, right? Trump appointed him deputy AG? And what are these "next matters" Lyle?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
I'm not rewriting history. I explained the entire thing on here before it actually happened. If you want to excerpt bits from that link and post them I'll explain exactly why they're wrong or irrelevant. And as far as the "subprime mess" went according to the eventual autopsy report by the Fed board of governors (all bankers) less than seven percent of the total bad loans/mortgages were subprime. The vast majority were prime loans sold by a bunch of crooks to people who had no way of being able to pay them when the teaser rate went up. Nobody cared because the loans were immediately sold to Wall Street where they were sliced and diced into securities that exponentially magnified the problem -- for every one of these mortgage securities there were another eight synthetic securities created based on the dogshit mortgages in the original security -- and that's largely what blew the system up. There used to be three main chokepoints for regulators to prevent anything like this happening but all three were prevented from doing their job by the GOP. Outside of the normal regulation when the AGs of every state took the Bush administration to court to try and get them to do something about the lending practices going on, the Bush administration did this: "Several years ago, state attorneys general and others involved in consumer protection began to notice a marked increase in a range of predatory lending practices by mortgage lenders. . . . These and other practices, we noticed, were having a devastating effect on home buyers. In addition, the widespread nature of these practices, if left unchecked, threatened our financial markets. "Even though predatory lending was becoming a national problem, the Bush administration looked the other way and did nothing to protect American homeowners. In fact, the government chose instead to align itself with the banks that were victimizing consumers. . . . As New York attorney general, I joined with colleagues in the other 49 states in attempting to fill the void left by the federal government. . . . "Not only did the Bush administration do nothing to protect consumers, it embarked on an aggressive and unprecedented campaign to prevent states from protecting their residents from the very problems to which the federal government was turning a blind eye. . . . The administration accomplished this feat through an obscure federal agency called the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC). . . . In 2003, during the height of the predatory lending crisis, the OCC invoked a clause from the 1863 National Bank Act to issue formal opinions preempting all state predatory lending laws, thereby rendering them inoperative. The OCC also promulgated new rules that prevented states from enforcing any of their own consumer protection laws against national banks. The federal government’s actions were so egregious and so unprecedented that all 50 state attorneys general, and all 50 state banking superintendents, actively fought the new rules. But the unanimous opposition of the 50 states did not deter, or even slow, the Bush administration in its goal of protecting the banks. In fact, when my office opened an investigation of possible discrimination in mortgage lending by a number of banks, the OCC filed a federal lawsuit to stop the investigation." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...&noredirect=on Now this is actually related to what I do for a living. I was at the coal face of the securities part of this situation while these securities were being created and sold. I don't need to read some misleading bullshitter in Forbes to know what was going on back then.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
iran doesn’t give a fuck about good relations with US. One of the schticks they use to stay in power is to incite the people to protest the US and make anti west statements. Obama tried dealing with them,I supported that I think it makes to make talks when what’s been going on has accomplished nothing it makes sense to smooth things over with countries where conflict exist but I did like the dealToo many holes and too many restriction Iran has against letting inspectors see shit. Plus the C-4 full off cash was a bit strangeQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingThere's far less chance of any kind of regime change in Iran after Trump has reimposed sanctions and ripped up the nuclear deal. Politicians and pundits on the Iranian version of Fox News are now saying see, we were right, there's no way to deal with the Americans. The regime now has something to blame for the economy not improving, any politician advocating neing more pro-western has a much tougher job making that argument with the Iranian people. And of course this Iran thing is part of the Q Anon nonsense, isn't it? Liberal westerners and the Iranian regime are working together to do something or other, right? Maybe John McCain will speak out in favour of Iranian reformers and that will spark a revolution over there. That is if he's allowed to under the terms of his deal with prosecutors. He's wearing an ankle monitor so they can keep an eye on him without locking him up, isn't that right? Even though he's been found guilty of whatever it is. And Huma too! And Chelsea! All wearing ankle monitors and somehow not locked up yet. And look at this fucknut. He wants to see the "real" IG report too. The one that Trump already has that will blow the lid off this whole conspiracy but so far he hasn't mad eit public yet. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/15/u...dam/index.html You said that the mainstream media would start covering qanon, well there's some coverage. And I know why you didn't want to read an article written by somebody called Rothschild. Because the Rothschild banking family are a huge part of this conspiracy. I should have known. And obviously anybody with the surname Rothschild is related to them. What do you think Strozk is going to say when he testifies? And what is Rosenstein hiding exactly? You know he's a Trump appointee, right? Trump appointed him deputy AG? And what are these "next matters" Lyle?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
The child separation thing isn't the law, it's a Trump administration policy announced publicly by Sessions a couple of months ago. Trump can end the problem with a phone call as a whole bunch of senior Republicans have now come out and admitted. This is what happens when you get your news from crazy places. Watch:Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThe UN is a piece of shit, the UN HRC is an even bigger piece of shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
As of 2018, Israel has been condemned in 78 resolutions by the UN Human Rights Council since its creation in 2006—the Council has resolved more resolutions condemning Israel than the rest of the world combined....how's that for "Laughably anti-Israel" ? Meanwhile the UN HRC's statement on Sudan, a country with MANY human rights abuses as documented by the Council's working groups, it has expressed "deep concern".....ah but no resolutions though :scratchchin:
LMAO, you mean the trafficked kids and "children" :rolleyes: ILLEGALLY entering the United States...THOSE kids....well they haven't been kept in cages since the Obama Administration. And again President Trump didn't write the law, he didn't make the law, he didn't vote on the law, he's enforcing the law as is his duty as President. It's CONGRESS who writes the laws and President Trump has called on them to act, and a House bill has been floated that would fix the problem but DEMOCRAT Chuck Schumer isn't finished using this crisis yet so he opposes fixing the situation. Abraham Lincoln said "The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly" and that is exactly what Trump is doing, but again it's not HIS place as President to write the laws, that is the job of CONGRESS. Anything done with an Executive Order can be UNdone with an Executive Order which is why Obama's legacy has withered away so quickly.
While the 64 number might not be true, the 4,000 number is kinda in doubt as well. It's an ESTIMATE.
Anything else you want to bitch about?
https://twitter.com/megwagner/status...8%2Findex.html
Trump's no backing down/look tough pathology is going to bite him in the arse here. He's trying to bullshit his way out of this and put the eventual blame for the policy on some judge but voters aren't going to fall for it. Apart from the ones you can fool all of the time.............Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
The President says he’s signing an executive order to end family separations. The actual aim seems to be to pick a fight with the courts and allow separations to continue while blaming judges. According to The New York Times, the President will sign an executive order allowing children to be detained indefinitely with their parents. The problem is that that violates a 1997 consent decree saying that you can’t detain/imprison children for more than 20 days (technically what’s currently happening isn’t detention). It straight up violates that order. So what will almost inevitably happen is that a court will step in, say you can’t do that and then Trump will announce that the judge is forcing him to keep separating families.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trumps-ploy
He's either going to have to publicly back down on this or own the policy on an ongoing basis.
Total access to all Iranian nuclear sites? Inspectors permanently on the ground? Iran don't care about good relations with America? Certainly the hardliners don't but the reformists did this deal. Now ripping it up has empowered the hardliners again and sidelined the reformists.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusiran doesn’t give a fuck about good relations with US. One of the schticks they use to stay in power is to incite the people to protest the US and make anti west statements. Obama tried dealing with them,I supported that I think it makes to make talks when what’s been going on has accomplished nothing it makes sense to smooth things over with countries where conflict exist but I did like the dealToo many holes and too many restriction Iran has against letting inspectors see shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingThere's far less chance of any kind of regime change in Iran after Trump has reimposed sanctions and ripped up the nuclear deal. Politicians and pundits on the Iranian version of Fox News are now saying see, we were right, there's no way to deal with the Americans. The regime now has something to blame for the economy not improving, any politician advocating neing more pro-western has a much tougher job making that argument with the Iranian people. And of course this Iran thing is part of the Q Anon nonsense, isn't it? Liberal westerners and the Iranian regime are working together to do something or other, right? Maybe John McCain will speak out in favour of Iranian reformers and that will spark a revolution over there. That is if he's allowed to under the terms of his deal with prosecutors. He's wearing an ankle monitor so they can keep an eye on him without locking him up, isn't that right? Even though he's been found guilty of whatever it is. And Huma too! And Chelsea! All wearing ankle monitors and somehow not locked up yet. And look at this fucknut. He wants to see the "real" IG report too. The one that Trump already has that will blow the lid off this whole conspiracy but so far he hasn't mad eit public yet. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/15/u...dam/index.html You said that the mainstream media would start covering qanon, well there's some coverage. And I know why you didn't want to read an article written by somebody called Rothschild. Because the Rothschild banking family are a huge part of this conspiracy. I should have known. And obviously anybody with the surname Rothschild is related to them. What do you think Strozk is going to say when he testifies? And what is Rosenstein hiding exactly? You know he's a Trump appointee, right? Trump appointed him deputy AG? And what are these "next matters" Lyle?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Kirk ur full of shit. This shit has been going on for awhile, no one gave a shit now it’s a big media issue. The parents are criminals. There in lay the problem. It’s shiitybto break up families but it’s been goin on. If trump has to cave on this one he will make a deal on something else. It’s great for politicians to stand up and say don’t seperats families. It’s a safe issue, but if they say it about own country it’s portrayed as racistQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingTrump's no backing down/look tough pathology is going to bite him in the arse here. He's trying to bullshit his way out of this and put the eventual blame for the policy on some judge but voters aren't going to fall for it. Apart from the ones you can fool all of the time.............Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
The President says he’s signing an executive order to end family separations. The actual aim seems to be to pick a fight with the courts and allow separations to continue while blaming judges. According to The New York Times, the President will sign an executive order allowing children to be detained indefinitely with their parents. The problem is that that violates a 1997 consent decree saying that you can’t detain/imprison children for more than 20 days (technically what’s currently happening isn’t detention). It straight up violates that order. So what will almost inevitably happen is that a court will step in, say you can’t do that and then Trump will announce that the judge is forcing him to keep separating families.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trumps-ploy
He's either going to have to publicly back down on this or own the policy on an ongoing basis.
It was a shit deal no total acces that is wrong. Trump campaigned on it and he followed through, good to seeQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingTotal access to all Iranian nuclear sites? Inspectors permanently on the ground? Iran don't care about good relations with America? Certainly the hardliners don't but the reformists did this deal. Now ripping it up has empowered the hardliners again and sidelined the reformists.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusiran doesn’t give a fuck about good relations with US. One of the schticks they use to stay in power is to incite the people to protest the US and make anti west statements. Obama tried dealing with them,I supported that I think it makes to make talks when what’s been going on has accomplished nothing it makes sense to smooth things over with countries where conflict exist but I did like the dealToo many holes and too many restriction Iran has against letting inspectors see shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingThere's far less chance of any kind of regime change in Iran after Trump has reimposed sanctions and ripped up the nuclear deal. Politicians and pundits on the Iranian version of Fox News are now saying see, we were right, there's no way to deal with the Americans. The regime now has something to blame for the economy not improving, any politician advocating neing more pro-western has a much tougher job making that argument with the Iranian people. And of course this Iran thing is part of the Q Anon nonsense, isn't it? Liberal westerners and the Iranian regime are working together to do something or other, right? Maybe John McCain will speak out in favour of Iranian reformers and that will spark a revolution over there. That is if he's allowed to under the terms of his deal with prosecutors. He's wearing an ankle monitor so they can keep an eye on him without locking him up, isn't that right? Even though he's been found guilty of whatever it is. And Huma too! And Chelsea! All wearing ankle monitors and somehow not locked up yet. And look at this fucknut. He wants to see the "real" IG report too. The one that Trump already has that will blow the lid off this whole conspiracy but so far he hasn't mad eit public yet. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/15/u...dam/index.html You said that the mainstream media would start covering qanon, well there's some coverage. And I know why you didn't want to read an article written by somebody called Rothschild. Because the Rothschild banking family are a huge part of this conspiracy. I should have known. And obviously anybody with the surname Rothschild is related to them. What do you think Strozk is going to say when he testifies? And what is Rosenstein hiding exactly? You know he's a Trump appointee, right? Trump appointed him deputy AG? And what are these "next matters" Lyle?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
It's been going on for a couple of months and liberals have been giving a shit all of that time. It's only just become a major issue due to all of the work by liberal groups to publicise it. I've been reading about it for weeks now and I don't read much about that kind of thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusKirk ur full of shit. This shit has been going on for awhile, no one gave a shit now it’s a big media issue. The parents are criminals. There in lay the problem. It’s shiitybto break up families but it’s been goin on. If trump has to cave on this one he will make a deal on something else. It’s great for politicians to stand up and say don’t seperats families. It’s a safe issue, but if they say it about own country it’s portrayed as racistQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingTrump's no backing down/look tough pathology is going to bite him in the arse here. He's trying to bullshit his way out of this and put the eventual blame for the policy on some judge but voters aren't going to fall for it. Apart from the ones you can fool all of the time.............Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
The President says he’s signing an executive order to end family separations. The actual aim seems to be to pick a fight with the courts and allow separations to continue while blaming judges. According to The New York Times, the President will sign an executive order allowing children to be detained indefinitely with their parents. The problem is that that violates a 1997 consent decree saying that you can’t detain/imprison children for more than 20 days (technically what’s currently happening isn’t detention). It straight up violates that order. So what will almost inevitably happen is that a court will step in, say you can’t do that and then Trump will announce that the judge is forcing him to keep separating families.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trumps-ploy
He's either going to have to publicly back down on this or own the policy on an ongoing basis.
You've got to admit there's a thoughline connecting all the worst moments and policies of this administration; Charlottesville, the travel ban, Puerto Rico, family separation and so on. You don't have to admit it. It's all a massive coincidence.
He's great at ripping deals up and undoing things but so far he hasn't actually done anything substantial. But he's now having to deal in real time with the consequences of his decisions. For thirty years he's been telling people what a great job he'd do if he was prez.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusIt was a shit deal no total acces that is wrong. Trump campaigned on it and he followed through, good to seeQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingTotal access to all Iranian nuclear sites? Inspectors permanently on the ground? Iran don't care about good relations with America? Certainly the hardliners don't but the reformists did this deal. Now ripping it up has empowered the hardliners again and sidelined the reformists.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrusiran doesn’t give a fuck about good relations with US. One of the schticks they use to stay in power is to incite the people to protest the US and make anti west statements. Obama tried dealing with them,I supported that I think it makes to make talks when what’s been going on has accomplished nothing it makes sense to smooth things over with countries where conflict exist but I did like the dealToo many holes and too many restriction Iran has against letting inspectors see shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingThere's far less chance of any kind of regime change in Iran after Trump has reimposed sanctions and ripped up the nuclear deal. Politicians and pundits on the Iranian version of Fox News are now saying see, we were right, there's no way to deal with the Americans. The regime now has something to blame for the economy not improving, any politician advocating neing more pro-western has a much tougher job making that argument with the Iranian people. And of course this Iran thing is part of the Q Anon nonsense, isn't it? Liberal westerners and the Iranian regime are working together to do something or other, right? Maybe John McCain will speak out in favour of Iranian reformers and that will spark a revolution over there. That is if he's allowed to under the terms of his deal with prosecutors. He's wearing an ankle monitor so they can keep an eye on him without locking him up, isn't that right? Even though he's been found guilty of whatever it is. And Huma too! And Chelsea! All wearing ankle monitors and somehow not locked up yet. And look at this fucknut. He wants to see the "real" IG report too. The one that Trump already has that will blow the lid off this whole conspiracy but so far he hasn't mad eit public yet. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/15/u...dam/index.html You said that the mainstream media would start covering qanon, well there's some coverage. And I know why you didn't want to read an article written by somebody called Rothschild. Because the Rothschild banking family are a huge part of this conspiracy. I should have known. And obviously anybody with the surname Rothschild is related to them. What do you think Strozk is going to say when he testifies? And what is Rosenstein hiding exactly? You know he's a Trump appointee, right? Trump appointed him deputy AG? And what are these "next matters" Lyle?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
He could make all kinds of promises without having to back them up. He's promised universal healthcare that would be much better and cheaper than anything else on offer, eliminate the national debt, create massive economic growth and so on. Now he's got to deliver on those promises. He's inherited an economy heading towards the end of the longest expansion in history and he's getting al the credit for it but if/when it goes south the cushion that's allowing him to skate over everything else he's done isn't going to be there.
I see no reason the market can’t continue like this for a number of years. Will a recession come sure it has to its the law. You can read plenty economist who say the end is near and just as many who present numbers saying it’s in the bottom of the ninth but we are going to have extra innings or continue this way. We are in correction territory but we do have several sectors doing well with a lot of investments in business not just buy backs as u claim. Reinvest will outpace buy backs. I think that is your issue, you look at only one source or point of view and take it as fact. There are plenty of ecomics u can grab that are fishy but that is how countries work these days. Obama increased the debt by over 9 trillion dollars. I don’t think the debt even matters anymore. A number will be picked that is acceptable and the cost of the country will just include that. 20 trillion ain’t gonna be paid back and it will grow I’d like to point out all the other shit u are wrong with but I don’t have time
The Obama administration actually expanded the system of detaining families – typically mothers and their minor children – after a huge surge of Central Americans along the U.S.-Mexican border in 2014. The policy resulted in many minors being detained in various locations, in much-criticized conditions, either with their families or by themselves, if they had crossed the border alone.
Videos and photos at the time showed children in tears, many of them still wearing dirty clothes, in detention facilities where they were kept with their families. The conditions -- which ranged from six adults and children sleeping crammed on two mattresses laid out on concrete floors, to sick minors not receiving medical care -- were documented in many news accounts and reports by human rights groups.
At the time, Obama administration officials argued they had no choice but to implement policies intended to deter families from entering the U.S. illegally. Trump administration officials have made similar arguments.
Well if YOU say Iran's regime will stay then I mean OBVIOUSLY it'll stay and for exactly the reasons you said...because you are never wrong. I mean what I see is women standing up to being forced to wear the hijab and I see a lot of support around those women, the PEOPLE of Iran are pissed off, they actually like the West and they are really missing the Shah right now...#Pahlavi on twitter see for yourselfQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
The Iran Deal was a shitty deal made by weak leaders.
I guess we'll just wait and see what happens to McCain and Huma...not sure Chelsea has been discussed at all.
President Trump has the:
1. Original IG unredacted report
2. Modified IG unredacted report [RR version]
3. Modified IG redacted report [RR version]
4. IG summary notes re: obstruction(s) to obtain select info (classified)
#3 was the IG report that was released 6/14/2018...we've already had doubts cast over how good that report is and slowly but surely we'll be seeing the other reports which will indeed uncover wrongdoing by Rod Rosenstein because Rod Rosenstein was involved in criminal activities and then he tried to cover that up....not going to be good for him going forward.
Sealed indictments...sealed, unreleased, criminals in the crosshairs aren't arrested yet got it?
H.R. McMaster was also a Trump appointee but he was a part of the swamp, again you're looking at this through the lens of "Republican = Good for Trump and Democrat = Bad for Trump" that's not necessarily the case here. Bad actors are bad actors Republican, Democrat, whatever.
The Rothschilds certainly are a big part of the "conspiracy", you can pretty much tie them to every single modern day war the world over. Regardless of whether or not that reporter is related to THE family his piece was a whole lot of nothing.
Rosenstein is hiding the fact that he helped get the FISA warrants. Trump appointed Rosenstein yes, way to pay attention. Trump also fired Comey and who said Trump would be well within his right to to fire Comey??? ROD ROSENSTEIN and that's why Trump wasn't getting popped for firing Comey who is now shown to be completely and utterly biased and inept.