Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?
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Pacstraightleft
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kingfrnk
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miles
Overcome this shit. Just remember they are a repressed, nothing country. He is all they have to live for.
Hatton will kick this little dweeb to hell and back. ;)
Damn...
i hope Hatton wins. Just to see how pac fans react to the loss instead of pacman lol
Lol!
I'm sure you're not the only one who wants to see pacfans reaction if Pac himself loses.
MARK MY WORD... Win or lose, I'll stick around here and continue to be a Pacfan.
Manny Pacquiao accomplished enough for his fans. And I will not be ashamed or embarassed if he loses come May 2.
I'm really getting sick and tired with all these hypes.
WAR PAC WAR!!!
MABUHAY ANG FILIPINAS!!!
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ok i just wanna see Saddoboxers and Brucelees reaction...
Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?
Wow, I leave this thread alone for a few days thinkin it can't hit any new lows, come back & it somehow has. Certain Pac-fans (looking at you particularly SaddoBoxer) need to give this shit a rest, bring it up again at the start of April if you want, but let's have at least a month without this back and forth between the fan-boys of each. Also some people who should definitely know better are kind of treading a bit of worrying line on the stuff about the Fillipines. It's not really the kind of stuff that looks good on the main board :-\
Still going out there hoping Hatton tears Pac apart, but let's just leave it a little while & keep some of the stuff more focused on boxing fellas ;D
Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?
A puncher's chance means a boxer is never out of a fight at any moment, because of his KO power, provided he is still competing. That is a complement in a way, to the respect given to Hatton's power at 140 lbs.
Now if you add excellent to it, it means the chance is at a much higher clip, not only limiting it to a miniscule's moment in 12 rounds of fighting, but rather in every moment that they are slugging out, landing mitts. If the opposition neglects defense then that is to his undoing. A puncher may not outbox to win, but certainly he will deliver KO to win!
All in all in that context it meant, despite slim to none as the given view to the chances of a Hatton win, it is still given. It is not a blanket statement that Hatton has no chance of winning whatsoever in this fight. Anyone who has a problem with this, is also one to have problems to any dissenting view.
I hope this not be viewed as condescending, but the reaction of some IMHO have gone astray on the preferable side of civility, however it should not reflect the level of class that the general forummers here show each and everytime, cause seldom do these stray views surface here!
I think to show passion in rooting for your own is never bad, but it should never breach the negative side of civility. For only in these civilised interchanges shall allow the world to maintain its peace.
Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?
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kingfrnk
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Pacstraightleft
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kingfrnk
Damn...
i hope Hatton wins. Just to see how pac fans react to the loss instead of pacman lol
Lol!
I'm sure you're not the only one who wants to see pacfans reaction if Pac himself loses.
MARK MY WORD... Win or lose, I'll stick around here and continue to be a Pacfan.
Manny Pacquiao accomplished enough for his fans. And I will not be ashamed or embarassed if he loses come May 2.
I'm really getting sick and tired with all these hypes.
WAR PAC WAR!!!
MABUHAY ANG FILIPINAS!!!
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ok i just wanna see Saddoboxers and Brucelees reaction...
what about my reaction kngfrank? why are you dragging my name into this? :mad:
Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?
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Master
This is borderline stuff from Miles and certainly Booze which I will like pac fans to know that I disassociate myself from. ;D
Pac will get his ass handed to him and just let this be the end of the matter. :cool:
I completely agree with you Master, Miles and Booze comments about our country and people were uncalled for... We better left out those things mates...
Miles, I thought we're just having a wind up here about our respective favorite boxers...
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Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?
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Unbiased list.
Speed -Pac
Skills - Hatton
Power - Hatton (Check boxrec for KO ratio, Hatton's is higher)
Stance - Pac
Stamina - Hatton
Chin - Hatton
Heart - Hatton
Experience - Hatton, Pac hasn't fought at 140 yet.
Reach - Pac
Height/Talller - Pac
Quality opposition - Pac, only just.
Ring generalship - Hatton
Corner - Hatton
Skills - PAC, even Juan Diaz considered Hatton one-dimensional.
Power - yes, Hatton's KO ratio is higher but without a common opponent, this area is more of an unknown. We can't really determine that until they fight since PAC's KO power is also excellent...
Stamina - PAC. Have you heard PAC being out of gas? Hatton was struggling in the late rounds against Collazo.
Chin - PAC. One check hook to Hatton's chin and he was KO'ed by PBF.
Heart - this could be unknown since Hatton's heart not yet tested. PAC showed lots of heart in the Morales 1st fight.
Experience - PAC. PAC has a total of 53 fights compared to 46 of Hatton.
Ring generalship - PAC is a master on how to use the ring to his favor.
Corner - PAC. Floyd Sr. is a good trainer/cornerman but Roach/PAC tandem has the advantage of being together for a long time.
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Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?
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kingfrnk
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Pacstraightleft
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kingfrnk
Damn...
i hope Hatton wins. Just to see how pac fans react to the loss instead of pacman lol
Lol!
I'm sure you're not the only one who wants to see pacfans reaction if Pac himself loses.
MARK MY WORD... Win or lose, I'll stick around here and continue to be a Pacfan.
Manny Pacquiao accomplished enough for his fans. And I will not be ashamed or embarassed if he loses come May 2.
I'm really getting sick and tired with all these hypes.
WAR PAC WAR!!!
MABUHAY ANG FILIPINAS!!!
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ok i just wanna see Saddoboxers and Brucelees reaction...
I guess you noticed my reaction after PAC annihilated Hoya, did I gloat about it? None... Expect the same reaction on this PAC-Hatton fight...
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Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?
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SaddoBoxer
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leftylee
Unbiased list.
Speed -Pac
Skills - Hatton
Power - Hatton (Check boxrec for KO ratio, Hatton's is higher)
Stance - Pac
Stamina - Hatton
Chin - Hatton
Heart - Hatton
Experience - Hatton, Pac hasn't fought at 140 yet.
Reach - Pac
Height/Talller - Pac
Quality opposition - Pac, only just.
Ring generalship - Hatton
Corner - Hatton
Skills - PAC, even Juan Diaz considered Hatton one-dimensional.
Power - yes, Hatton's KO ratio is higher but without a common opponent, this area is more of an unknown. We can't really determine that until they fight since PAC's KO power is also excellent...
Stamina - PAC. Have you heard PAC being out of gas? Hatton was struggling in the late rounds against Collazo.
Chin - PAC. One check hook to Hatton's chin and he was KO'ed by PBF.
Heart - this could be unknown since Hatton's heart not yet tested. PAC showed lots of heart in the Morales 1st fight.
Experience - PAC. PAC has a total of 53 fights compared to 46 of Hatton.
Ring generalship - PAC is a master on how to use the ring to his favor.
Corner - PAC. Floyd Sr. is a good trainer/cornerman but Roach/PAC tandem has the advantage of being together for a long time.
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If Hatton is switched on and gets away with as many fouls as he did v Kostya Pac is in trouble. Tszyu hits considerably harder than Pac, and with just as much accuracy, yet couldn't dent Hatton when he was on his A game.
Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?
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eagle
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SaddoBoxer
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leftylee
Unbiased list.
Speed -Pac
Skills - Hatton
Power - Hatton (Check boxrec for KO ratio, Hatton's is higher)
Stance - Pac
Stamina - Hatton
Chin - Hatton
Heart - Hatton
Experience - Hatton, Pac hasn't fought at 140 yet.
Reach - Pac
Height/Talller - Pac
Quality opposition - Pac, only just.
Ring generalship - Hatton
Corner - Hatton
Skills - PAC, even Juan Diaz considered Hatton one-dimensional.
Power - yes, Hatton's KO ratio is higher but without a common opponent, this area is more of an unknown. We can't really determine that until they fight since PAC's KO power is also excellent...
Stamina - PAC. Have you heard PAC being out of gas? Hatton was struggling in the late rounds against Collazo.
Chin - PAC. One check hook to Hatton's chin and he was KO'ed by PBF.
Heart - this could be unknown since Hatton's heart not yet tested. PAC showed lots of heart in the Morales 1st fight.
Experience - PAC. PAC has a total of 53 fights compared to 46 of Hatton.
Ring generalship - PAC is a master on how to use the ring to his favor.
Corner - PAC. Floyd Sr. is a good trainer/cornerman but Roach/PAC tandem has the advantage of being together for a long time.
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If Hatton is switched on and gets away with as many fouls as he did v Kostya Pac is in trouble. Tszyu hits considerably harder than Pac, and with just as much accuracy, yet couldn't dent Hatton when he was on his A game.
So you mean we give the "Dirty Tactics" and "MMA" category as advantage to Hatton? I have no problem with that since we knew Hatton is one dirty fighter and also a MMA fighter. In fact Hatton might win this one by submission...
Dirty Tactics - Hatton
...........MMA - Hatton
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Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?
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SaddoBoxer
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eagle
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SaddoBoxer
Skills - PAC, even Juan Diaz considered Hatton one-dimensional.
Power - yes, Hatton's KO ratio is higher but without a common opponent, this area is more of an unknown. We can't really determine that until they fight since PAC's KO power is also excellent...
Stamina - PAC. Have you heard PAC being out of gas? Hatton was struggling in the late rounds against Collazo.
Chin - PAC. One check hook to Hatton's chin and he was KO'ed by PBF.
Heart - this could be unknown since Hatton's heart not yet tested. PAC showed lots of heart in the Morales 1st fight.
Experience - PAC. PAC has a total of 53 fights compared to 46 of Hatton.
Ring generalship - PAC is a master on how to use the ring to his favor.
Corner - PAC. Floyd Sr. is a good trainer/cornerman but Roach/PAC tandem has the advantage of being together for a long time.
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If Hatton is switched on and gets away with as many fouls as he did v Kostya Pac is in trouble. Tszyu hits considerably harder than Pac, and with just as much accuracy, yet couldn't dent Hatton when he was on his A game.
So you mean we give the "Dirty Tactics" and "MMA" category as advantage to Hatton? I have no problem with that since we knew Hatton is one dirty fighter and also a MMA fighter. In fact Hatton might win this one by submission...
Dirty Tactics - Hatton
...........MMA - Hatton
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They are only dirty tactics if u get caught.... Plenty of top fighters use certain techniquees to throw off their opposition, Hatton is good at it. If he is allowed to rough up Pac with his superior strength then it will give him a huge advantage, if not it will give PAc a big one.
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eagle
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SaddoBoxer
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eagle
If Hatton is switched on and gets away with as many fouls as he did v Kostya Pac is in trouble. Tszyu hits considerably harder than Pac, and with just as much accuracy, yet couldn't dent Hatton when he was on his A game.
So you mean we give the "Dirty Tactics" and "MMA" category as advantage to Hatton? I have no problem with that since we knew Hatton is one dirty fighter and also a MMA fighter. In fact Hatton might win this one by submission...
Dirty Tactics - Hatton
...........MMA - Hatton
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They are only dirty tactics if u get caught.... Plenty of top fighters use certain techniquees to throw off their opposition, Hatton is good at it. If he is allowed to rough up Pac with his superior strength then it will give him a huge advantage, if not it will give PAc a big one.
I'm with you, use dirty tactics but please don't let somebody catch you... Look at how Margarito not caught using dirty tactics... Dirty tactics help wins fight... It's good for the boxer...
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Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?
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SaddoBoxer
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kingfrnk
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Pacstraightleft
Lol!
I'm sure you're not the only one who wants to see pacfans reaction if Pac himself loses.
MARK MY WORD... Win or lose, I'll stick around here and continue to be a Pacfan.
Manny Pacquiao accomplished enough for his fans. And I will not be ashamed or embarassed if he loses come May 2.
I'm really getting sick and tired with all these hypes.
WAR PAC WAR!!!
MABUHAY ANG FILIPINAS!!!
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ok i just wanna see Saddoboxers and Brucelees reaction...
I guess you noticed my reaction after PAC annihilated Hoya, did I gloat about it? None... Expect the same reaction on this PAC-Hatton fight...
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Now did i say anything about you gloating?? hmm NO stupid i didnt. I just wanna see how are you gonna post about Pac if he gets beat by Hatton.
And as for Bruce i never see you discuss about any other boxer but pac so that says it right there.
Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?
You can't just say one fighter has more skills, they both have different skillsets.
I'm wondering a few things about this fight. I think Pacquiao will win if he is light on his feet and keeps it in the center of the ring and works Hatton with angles. The reason Pacquiao won't do to Hatton what he did with De La Hoya is because on that night De La Hoya had no zip. Hatton's footspeed is excellent, in fact it even gave Floyd problems. Floyd handled Judah's speed with ease but you could see he was consistently bothered by how fast Hatton got in on him. Pacquiao has never faced consistent pressure like he'll face with Hatton. If Ricky gets him moving backwards though and forces him to the ropes it could easily go the other way.
Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?
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amat
You can't just say one fighter has more skills, they both have different skillsets.
I'm wondering a few things about this fight. I think Pacquiao will win if he is light on his feet and keeps it in the center of the ring and works Hatton with angles. The reason Pacquiao won't do to Hatton what he did with De La Hoya is because on that night De La Hoya had no zip. Hatton's footspeed is excellent, in fact it even gave Floyd problems. Floyd handled Judah's speed with ease but you could see he was consistently bothered by how fast Hatton got in on him. Pacquiao has never faced consistent pressure like he'll face with Hatton. If Ricky gets him moving backwards though and forces him to the ropes it could easily go the other way.
But I frequently hear people saying boxer A is more skilled than boxer B... Or boxer B has limited skills.... Or boxer B is one dimensional...
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Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?
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SaddoBoxer
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eagle
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SaddoBoxer
So you mean we give the "Dirty Tactics" and "MMA" category as advantage to Hatton? I have no problem with that since we knew Hatton is one dirty fighter and also a MMA fighter. In fact Hatton might win this one by submission...
Dirty Tactics - Hatton
...........MMA - Hatton
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They are only dirty tactics if u get caught.... Plenty of top fighters use certain techniquees to throw off their opposition, Hatton is good at it. If he is allowed to rough up Pac with his superior strength then it will give him a huge advantage, if not it will give PAc a big one.
I'm with you, use dirty tactics but please don't let somebody catch you... Look at how Margarito not caught using dirty tactics... Dirty tactics help wins fight... It's good for the boxer...
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There is a massive difference between holding and a couple of low blows, and illegal hand wraps. Stupid comparison.