Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Unbiased list.

Speed -Pac
Skills - Hatton
Power - Hatton (Check boxrec for KO ratio, Hatton's is higher)
Stance - Pac
Stamina - Hatton
Chin - Hatton
Heart - Hatton
Experience - Hatton, Pac hasn't fought at 140 yet.
Reach - Pac
Height/Talller - Pac
Quality opposition - Pac, only just.
Ring generalship - Hatton
Corner - Hatton

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Skills - PAC, even Juan Diaz considered Hatton one-dimensional.

Power - yes, Hatton's KO ratio is higher but without a common opponent, this area is more of an unknown. We can't really determine that until they fight since PAC's KO power is also excellent...

Stamina - PAC. Have you heard PAC being out of gas? Hatton was struggling in the late rounds against Collazo.

Chin - PAC. One check hook to Hatton's chin and he was KO'ed by PBF.

Heart - this could be unknown since Hatton's heart not yet tested. PAC showed lots of heart in the Morales 1st fight.

Experience - PAC. PAC has a total of 53 fights compared to 46 of Hatton.

Ring generalship - PAC is a master on how to use the ring to his favor.

Corner - PAC. Floyd Sr. is a good trainer/cornerman but Roach/PAC tandem has the advantage of being together for a long time.

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Your claims are so biased.

Skills - What the fukk does Juan Diaz know ? Has he ever stepped in a ring with Hatton ? No. It's just one man's opinion. So that argumnet is flawed already.

Power - Pac's KO ratio may be excellent. But Hatton's is higher FACT. And you cant deny that.

Stamina - Hatton when he fought Collazo was at welterweight. When he had 5 weeks to prepare. This fight is at 140. Tell me a time when Hatton has looked tired at 140 ? Fact is he hasn't, Hatton wins this category.

Chin - Do you know how stupid that statement sounds ? Mayweather hit Hatton all night, every round for 10 flush and Hatton kept coming. Pac has been knocked out twice in his career, once by a bum. Hatton has only been beaten by the very best. Who the fukk is Rustico Torrecampo ?

Heart - The heart shown by Hatton has been unbelievable at times. Like in the Collazo fight, staying on his feet in the last round after getting hit heavily. Constantly coming forward against Mayweather despite getting tagged all night, showing heart of a lion in beating Kosta Tszyu.

Experience - Pac has fought NOT ONCE at 140. Hatton has fought there 43 times. End of.

Ring generalship - Hatton bullys oppponents and pushes them back to the ropes. He takes total control.

Corner - Floyd Sr is by far better than Freddie Roach. Roach states Hopkins would get badly hurt in the Pavlik fight, look what happened. Roach stated Vazquez would get beat by Marquez in the 2nd fight, look what happened. Roach is deluded.

SaddoBoxer these statements are getting ridiculous, especially that heart one. Even Mayweather stated Hatton has the heart of a lion. Your blinded by Pac's dikk, that's the problem.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Unbiased list.

Speed -Pac
Skills - Hatton
Power - Hatton (Check boxrec for KO ratio, Hatton's is higher)
Stance - Pac
Stamina - Hatton
Chin - Hatton
Heart - Hatton
Experience - Hatton, Pac hasn't fought at 140 yet.
Reach - Pac
Height/Talller - Pac
Quality opposition - Pac, only just.
Ring generalship - Hatton
Corner - Hatton

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Skills - PAC, even Juan Diaz considered Hatton one-dimensional.

Power - yes, Hatton's KO ratio is higher but without a common opponent, this area is more of an unknown. We can't really determine that until they fight since PAC's KO power is also excellent...

Stamina - PAC. Have you heard PAC being out of gas? Hatton was struggling in the late rounds against Collazo.

Chin - PAC. One check hook to Hatton's chin and he was KO'ed by PBF.

Heart - this could be unknown since Hatton's heart not yet tested. PAC showed lots of heart in the Morales 1st fight.

Experience - PAC. PAC has a total of 53 fights compared to 46 of Hatton.

Ring generalship - PAC is a master on how to use the ring to his favor.

Corner - PAC. Floyd Sr. is a good trainer/cornerman but Roach/PAC tandem has the advantage of being together for a long time.

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Your claims are so biased.

Skills - What the fukk does Juan Diaz know ? Has he ever stepped in a ring with Hatton ? No. It's just one man's opinion. So that argumnet is flawed already.

Power - Pac's KO ratio may be excellent. But Hatton's is higher FACT. And you cant deny that.

Stamina - Hatton when he fought Collazo was at welterweight. When he had 5 weeks to prepare. This fight is at 140. Tell me a time when Hatton has looked tired at 140 ? Fact is he hasn't, Hatton wins this category.

Chin - Do you know how stupid that statement sounds ? Mayweather hit Hatton all night, every round for 10 flush and Hatton kept coming. Pac has been knocked out twice in his career, once by a bum. Hatton has only been beaten by the very best. Who the fukk is Rustico Torrecampo ?

Heart - The heart shown by Hatton has been unbelievable at times. Like in the Collazo fight, staying on his feet in the last round after getting hit heavily. Constantly coming forward against Mayweather despite getting tagged all night, showing heart of a lion in beating Kosta Tszyu.

Experience - Pac has fought NOT ONCE at 140. Hatton has fought there 43 times. End of.

Ring generalship - Hatton bullys oppponents and pushes them back to the ropes. He takes total control.

Corner - Floyd Sr is by far better than Freddie Roach. Roach states Hopkins would get badly hurt in the Pavlik fight, look what happened. Roach stated Vazquez would get beat by Marquez in the 2nd fight, look what happened. Roach is deluded.

SaddoBoxer these statements are getting ridiculous, especially that heart one. Even Mayweather stated Hatton has the heart of a lion. Your blinded by Pac's dikk, that's the problem.

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Good arguments... Calm down, I now agree all categories that you have Hatton in advantage will now be declared EVEN... ;D PAC also has good claims on those categories... ;D
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Skills - PAC, even Juan Diaz considered Hatton one-dimensional.

Power - yes, Hatton's KO ratio is higher but without a common opponent, this area is more of an unknown. We can't really determine that until they fight since PAC's KO power is also excellent...

Stamina - PAC. Have you heard PAC being out of gas? Hatton was struggling in the late rounds against Collazo.

Chin - PAC. One check hook to Hatton's chin and he was KO'ed by PBF.

Heart - this could be unknown since Hatton's heart not yet tested. PAC showed lots of heart in the Morales 1st fight.

Experience - PAC. PAC has a total of 53 fights compared to 46 of Hatton.

Ring generalship - PAC is a master on how to use the ring to his favor.

Corner - PAC. Floyd Sr. is a good trainer/cornerman but Roach/PAC tandem has the advantage of being together for a long time.

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Without a doubt the most biased post in this thread.

How can you give them ALL to pac? it's clearly not true, you're just hugging his nuts once again.

Stamina... Hatton is known for being one of the best conditioned fighters out there.. he definately wasn't tiring out in the Collazo fight, he was struggling because he was being hit alot. We've all seen Hatton bounce around the ring for twelve arounds and never show signs of him tiring against KT, Collazo, Lazcano, Malignaggi to mention a few of his recent fights.


Hattons heart hasn't been tested yet? are you shitting me? Have you even watched any of Hattons last 10 or so fights?

As for the chin, the PBF fight doesn't really do his chin justice. Hatton walked through all of KT's punches and kept coming forward, and I think we can all agree KT hits harder than PBF.

The rest of your views on the other sections are debatable.. experience is a hard one, pac man has more fights but mostly all at lower divisions.. Hatton has been around 140 all of his career. Allthough this might not matter too much come fight night.

As for power... I think Hatton has more one-hit power but Pac man can undoubtably hit more so 4-5 pac man jab/straights will feel harder than 1-2 Hatton power punches.

And skills.. well I think it depends on what you define 'skill' as. To me, pac man just throws punch after punch flurry after flurry like a mad man until his opponent falls over and goes night night, and I think his defence isn't particularly good either, he just relies on his opponents to feel too scared to throw back, but JMM proved his defence wasn't too good after catching him a few times while pac threw like a mad man. But this is also what Hatton is known for doing, but judging off the malignaggi fight Floyd senior is definately getting some skill back into his game, with the jabbing, head movement, slipping punches etc.. so we'll see how the skill goes for each fighter on May 2nd.

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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Originally Posted by leftylee

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Skills - PAC, even Juan Diaz considered Hatton one-dimensional.

Power - yes, Hatton's KO ratio is higher but without a common opponent, this area is more of an unknown. We can't really determine that until they fight since PAC's KO power is also excellent...

Stamina - PAC. Have you heard PAC being out of gas? Hatton was struggling in the late rounds against Collazo.

Chin - PAC. One check hook to Hatton's chin and he was KO'ed by PBF.

Heart - this could be unknown since Hatton's heart not yet tested. PAC showed lots of heart in the Morales 1st fight.

Experience - PAC. PAC has a total of 53 fights compared to 46 of Hatton.

Ring generalship - PAC is a master on how to use the ring to his favor.

Corner - PAC. Floyd Sr. is a good trainer/cornerman but Roach/PAC tandem has the advantage of being together for a long time.

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Your claims are so biased.

Skills - What the fukk does Juan Diaz know ? Has he ever stepped in a ring with Hatton ? No. It's just one man's opinion. So that argumnet is flawed already.

Power - Pac's KO ratio may be excellent. But Hatton's is higher FACT. And you cant deny that.

Stamina - Hatton when he fought Collazo was at welterweight. When he had 5 weeks to prepare. This fight is at 140. Tell me a time when Hatton has looked tired at 140 ? Fact is he hasn't, Hatton wins this category.

Chin - Do you know how stupid that statement sounds ? Mayweather hit Hatton all night, every round for 10 flush and Hatton kept coming. Pac has been knocked out twice in his career, once by a bum. Hatton has only been beaten by the very best. Who the fukk is Rustico Torrecampo ?

Heart - The heart shown by Hatton has been unbelievable at times. Like in the Collazo fight, staying on his feet in the last round after getting hit heavily. Constantly coming forward against Mayweather despite getting tagged all night, showing heart of a lion in beating Kosta Tszyu.

Experience - Pac has fought NOT ONCE at 140. Hatton has fought there 43 times. End of.

Ring generalship - Hatton bullys oppponents and pushes them back to the ropes. He takes total control.

Corner - Floyd Sr is by far better than Freddie Roach. Roach states Hopkins would get badly hurt in the Pavlik fight, look what happened. Roach stated Vazquez would get beat by Marquez in the 2nd fight, look what happened. Roach is deluded.

SaddoBoxer these statements are getting ridiculous, especially that heart one. Even Mayweather stated Hatton has the heart of a lion. Your blinded by Pac's dikk, that's the problem.

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Good arguments... Calm down, I now agree all categories that you have Hatton in advantage will now be declared EVEN... ;D PAC also has good claims on those categories... ;D
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I'm calm as ever thank you. And all those claims I made are true.

personally, I still have my doubts about pacman moving up in weight because even though he destroyed dela hoya, dela hoya clearly wasnt himself. Oscar usually puts up way more of a fight then that n i feel that the weight really killed him. I dont take anything away from pacman, he's #1 in my p4p opinion, but im just not 100% sold yet about the weight changes. I would deff love for him to prove me wrong and i hope he does.

Sometimes the 1 punch KO in early rounds is very humane thing to inflict on someone...

...Which Hatton surely won't get from the Pacmanian Devil. He will tear Hatton apart slowly from the opening bell.

Pac will score a couple of 10-8 rounds (maybe more) without knocking Hatton down. Ricky will be in a world of pain.

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Originally Posted by James_Teja

Sometimes the 1 punch KO in early rounds is very humane thing to inflict on someone...

...Which Hatton surely won't get from the Pacmanian Devil. He will tear Hatton apart slowly from the opening bell.

Pac will score a couple of 10-9 rounds (maybe more) without knocking Hatton down. Ricky will be in a world of pain.

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Maybe you mean 10-8 rounds Bro... 10-8 round without a knockdown is so painful to watch...
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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Originally Posted by James_Teja

Sometimes the 1 punch KO in early rounds is very humane thing to inflict on someone...

...Which Hatton surely won't get from the Pacmanian Devil. He will tear Hatton apart slowly from the opening bell.

Pac will score a couple of 10-9 rounds (maybe more) without knocking Hatton down. Ricky will be in a world of pain.

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Maybe you mean 10-8 rounds Bro... 10-8 round without a knockdown is so painful to watch...
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Yeah, that's what I meant.

We will see Hatton bobbing his head violently all night from Pac's relentless assault.

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Originally Posted by James_Teja

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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Originally Posted by James_Teja

Sometimes the 1 punch KO in early rounds is very humane thing to inflict on someone...

...Which Hatton surely won't get from the Pacmanian Devil. He will tear Hatton apart slowly from the opening bell.

Pac will score a couple of 10-9 rounds (maybe more) without knocking Hatton down. Ricky will be in a world of pain.

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Maybe you mean 10-8 rounds Bro... 10-8 round without a knockdown is so painful to watch...
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Yeah, that's what I meant.

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:rolleyes:;DUgh here they go again ranting about their man.

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Originally Posted by James_Teja

We will see Hatton bobbing his head violently all night from Pac's relentless assault.

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I also expect to see this scenario.... Hatton will be like a bobble head doll...
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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Originally Posted by James_Teja

We will see Hatton bobbing his head violently all night from Pac's relentless assault.

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I also expect to see this scenario.... Hatton will be like a bobble head doll...
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And Larry Menchant saying "This is just embarrassing!".

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link --> Bernard Hopkins picks Pacquiao to win over Hatton


Interviewed on ESPN’S Friday Night Fight, Hopkins told host Brian Kenny that Pacquiao’s speed and power will spell the difference in his light-welterweight encounter with Hatton.

“I see Pacquiao pouring all the speed, scoring on side angles. Ricky Hatton’s not gonna know when to fight a different style at the right time, and I think that’s when Pacquiao is at his best, when guys come forward to him and picks him off," said Hopkins.

“Pacquiao has the fast hands, and Hatton’s style is to come forward and come forward. So look for Pacquiao to catch him coming in," he said.

“I don’t’ think he (Hatton) can better box than Pacquiao."



link --> Manny is too good for Hatton

COLIN HART says Filipino sensation Manny Pacquiao will beat Ricky Hatton when the pair collide on May 2.

Despite acknowledging the Hitman's improvement under new trainer Floyd Mayweather Snr, the Voice of Boxing reckons Pacman will emerge victorious from their Las Vegas showpiece.

And Hart believes Pacquiao will go on to cement his place as one of boxing's greatest-ever fighters once he is finished with Hatton.

Hart said: "This is the biggest fight of the year so far.

"There are many boxing cliches and one of the biggest is that styles make fights. These two have got the styles to make it a war from beginning to end.

"This fight will be decided on speed. Pacquiao has got extremely fast hands, he's faster than Hatton, and at 140lbs he will be too quick for Hatton.

"It'll be a fascinating fight and a very close one.

"But Pacquiao will assert himself after the halfway stage — as he did against Oscar De La Hoya.

"Unfortunately for Hatton's fans who went to America with high hopes when he fought Floyd Mayweather Jnr, I think they're going to be disappointed again.

"I wouldn't be surprised if Pacquiao stops Ricky in the later rounds, maybe nine or 10."

Can we officially move Saddoboxer over to the Spam board with this stuff ?You must work on commission SB....your beating the sale into the ground :soapbox:. Ya make me miss Moono :jester-new:

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Can we officially move Saddoboxer over to the Spam board with this stuff ?You must work on commission SB....your beating the sale into the ground :soapbox:. Ya make me miss Moono :jester-new:

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These are new developments about the topic...

I think those 2 articles I recently posted, "Hopkins picks PAC to win over Hatton" and "Manny too good for Hatton" greatly backed the thread title...