Re: Fury v Usyk is on.............!
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Mark TKO
Me too. Three times now and a few highlight reels.
I'm like a broken record but the end of the ninth decided it. Three point swing.
Can fury win the rematch. Yes
I wouldn't write him off, not for a second. But put a gun to my head and I say Fury can't do that again. He can't summon that sort of effort and will again. In the same way that Michael Brodie couldn't live with In Jin Chi the second time around. The first time around they were supernatural and punched one another to a standstill. You straight away got the impression that Chi could do it again, probably the next day. Brodie had emptied the tank and couldn't go again.
It's not just the 36 minutes with Usyk that is so physically and mentally draining. It's the camp he'll have to go through. No doubt as is generally the case we'll have a hiccup or a niggle that means it gets put back. It's all time that I think Fury can't afford to lose.
He came in
looking in great shape no doubt about that. But I'm not so sure he was in great shape. I know we all saw slightly different fights. What I saw was a Tyson Fury that had 5/6 rounds of output in him. I think the well might be dry.
100% have to agree with this. He looked shot. He looked like Wilder looked after the third fight. You just get the feeling he has nothing left inside. The way his face looked when he did the Muhammad Ali impersonation early on, it looked like a comical kind of old man's face and it didn't have the same fire it didn't have the same aggressive aggression it didn't have the same anger like he showed against Wilder. There was nothing intimidating about him this time. He didn't look like a power puncher anymore like he did against Wilder. You wonder if he has anything left inside.
Quack quack the duck Primo carnera you may agree or disagree with this but I do have to say that at 6 ft 9 in tall and 300 lb, pounding the pavement running 3 miles or 4 miles every day for all these years and now at the age of 35 or 36 that might be all that his big skeleton can take. I agree that he may not have it left in him anymore to do anything but a couple of minor fights and then hang it up
Really? ;D;D All I know is that you piggyback on any sensible post like the one by @Memphis and then change your reason/excuse why fury lost.
Obviously “if” there is a rematch, Fury has a chance, but realistically and historically in rematches like this, more often than not if you lose the first , you lose the rematch. I don’t see this being any different.
What will Fury do better or differently?
Re: Fury v Usyk is on.............!
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Primo Carnera
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NoSavingByTheBell
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Memphis
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Mark TKO
Me too. Three times now and a few highlight reels.
I'm like a broken record but the end of the ninth decided it. Three point swing.
Can fury win the rematch. Yes
I wouldn't write him off, not for a second. But put a gun to my head and I say Fury can't do that again. He can't summon that sort of effort and will again. In the same way that Michael Brodie couldn't live with In Jin Chi the second time around. The first time around they were supernatural and punched one another to a standstill. You straight away got the impression that Chi could do it again, probably the next day. Brodie had emptied the tank and couldn't go again.
It's not just the 36 minutes with Usyk that is so physically and mentally draining. It's the camp he'll have to go through. No doubt as is generally the case we'll have a hiccup or a niggle that means it gets put back. It's all time that I think Fury can't afford to lose.
He came in
looking in great shape no doubt about that. But I'm not so sure he was in great shape. I know we all saw slightly different fights. What I saw was a Tyson Fury that had 5/6 rounds of output in him. I think the well might be dry.
100% have to agree with this. He looked shot. He looked like Wilder looked after the third fight. You just get the feeling he has nothing left inside. The way his face looked when he did the Muhammad Ali impersonation early on, it looked like a comical kind of old man's face and it didn't have the same fire it didn't have the same aggressive aggression it didn't have the same anger like he showed against Wilder. There was nothing intimidating about him this time. He didn't look like a power puncher anymore like he did against Wilder. You wonder if he has anything left inside.
Quack quack the duck Primo carnera you may agree or disagree with this but I do have to say that at 6 ft 9 in tall and 300 lb, pounding the pavement running 3 miles or 4 miles every day for all these years and now at the age of 35 or 36 that might be all that his big skeleton can take. I agree that he may not have it left in him anymore to do anything but a couple of minor fights and then hang it up
Really? ;D;D All I know is that you piggyback on any sensible post like the one by @
Memphis and then change your reason/excuse why fury lost.
Obviously “if” there is a rematch, Fury has a chance, but realistically and historically in rematches like this, more often than not if you lose the first , you lose the rematch. I don’t see this being any different.
What will Fury do better or differently?
What the fuck, il mio vecchio stronso, Piggyback Quack Quack, now you're writing poetry.
How you misinterpreted my post! I said Fury looks old and shot and drained, looked like 60 years old tired out drunk stumbling round in round 9. Can't see him wanting much more of that now. Maybe learn to read?
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Re: Fury v Usyk is on.............!
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I was 100% right about every one of those points before the fight even happened. I was saying if we go back in his thread that he needs to punish him to the body because the Ukrainian doesn't like it in the body and you could see the effects of those body shots were really crippling him and that uppercut was really cracking his jawbone I believe he has a hairline fracture in one of his mandibles. Fury is a huge giant and he has to impose his job like a telephone pole over and over and get ready with that right uppercut or straight right hand and even that long right hook like he knocked out Wilder with. I don't know why he spent his time backpedaling and clowning and holding the ropes like Muhammad Ali and I don't know why he allowed the Ukrainian to come forward. That little hopping rabbit has no business hopping forward against such a big huge giant like Tyson fury. Tyson Fury deliberately through this fight and made it close to justify a rematch. He could have easily finished this little rabbit by the 7th or the 8th round because he was cracking him hard and you could see the effects of it and it looked at one point that the Ukrainian was about to quit he looked so demoralized he looked so crestfallen the way he was jumping up and back like a little rabbit who had his jaw cracked over and over by those monster uppercuts and it looked like some of his ribs were starting to crack and he was about to be doubled over
People were yelling that it was a mismatch and you started to tell yourself that you must have been crazy to think that a cruiserweight could beat a super heavyweight. It looked like Tyson Fury wanted to appear to be Muhammad Ali staggering backwards into the ropes when Ernie shavers hit him or when Joe Frazier hit him it looked like he was focused on bringing out this drama and he wanted it to be a razor thin decision to justify the rematch.
Not a single member of this form has been able to answer two questions that I have been asking for the past 5 days. Not a single member of this form has been able to answer these two questions
Do you really think they would have been a rematch even though there is a clause if Tyson Fury had sparked out the Ukrainian in the 7th or 8th round Stone Cold sparked out? Of course they would not be any rematch because it was already getting to be a mismatch and such a mismatch by the sixth or the seventh round would certainly preclude any kind of rematch in october. There's too much money to lose if that's the case and so Tyson Fury eased off the gas pedal and allowed the other guy to come back knowing that his chin was good enough to survive it and he was hoping to win by one point I think but it looks like it went the other way and the other guy won by one point but the whole thing was staged in order to justify the rematch
Number two why couldn't the Ukrainian finish Tyson Fury in the opening moments of the 10th round if indeed Tyson Fury was so out on his feet and finished and shot and done and done? Why couldn't he not finish him if he is such a great finisher and if he is such an all-time great? Tyson Fury was supposedly dead on his feet and the bell saved him only and the referee saved him only. So are you telling me that 60 seconds is enough time for somebody who is completely shut and whose legs were completely gone staggering around like a senior citizen from pillar to Post, are you telling me 60 seconds is enough for that guy to make a comeback and actually win one of the last three rounds and possibly haven even round in the 11th? The fight was so fixed and so staged it is so obvious they would not have been a rematch and if Tyson Fury had been so completely destroyed at the end of the 9th round then what's wrong with the ukrainian? He couldn't finish the job? Why couldn't he finish the job? Tyson Fury was so destroyed and so devastated by those supposedly great shots at the end of the 9th round and only the ropes saved him? You really believe that? Then how did he make such a comeback in the 10th round that he was not able to be finished off by the ukrainian? Let's be honest here. There's something very fishy about it and now we definitely have a justification or a so-called justification for the rematch
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https://www.givemesport.com/author/james-evans-99/
So this spotty little oik knows so much about Boxing that it PROVES you’ve been right all along.
It’s like saying “a guy down the pub said it so it must be true!”
Ps. If you’re gonna voice dictate your long tawdry posts, as an “ex Journo that followed the Royal Family around and an English teacher, I’m surprised you don’t spell check.”
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tyson was beaten long before he even got in the ring. he tried to age oleksandr out, he tried to out price himself. he tried all the name calling. none of it worked. he threw everything at oleksandr & still couldn't get him out of there. oleksandr broke tyson down mentally & then physically
Re: Fury v Usyk is on.............!
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https://www.givemesport.com/author/james-evans-99/
So this spotty little oik knows so much about Boxing that it PROVES you’ve been right all along.
It’s like saying “a guy down the pub said it so it must be true!”
Ps. If you’re gonna voice dictate your long tawdry posts, as an “ex Journo that followed the Royal Family around and an English teacher, I’m surprised you don’t spell check.”
Have you always imitated a Bactrian camel?
Re: Fury v Usyk is on.............!
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tyson was beaten long before he even got in the ring. he tried to age oleksandr out, he tried to out price himself. he tried all the name calling. none of it worked. he threw everything at oleksandr & still couldn't get him out of there. oleksandr broke tyson down mentally & then physically
He looked shot in the first round
Re: Fury v Usyk is on.............!
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NoSavingByTheBell
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TIC
tyson was beaten long before he even got in the ring. he tried to age oleksandr out, he tried to out price himself. he tried all the name calling. none of it worked. he threw everything at oleksandr & still couldn't get him out of there. oleksandr broke tyson down mentally & then physically
He looked shot in the first round
Yep. Cos a shot fighter “completely dominates the first 6 rounds and gets a draw” against a multiple World Champion. Dear me!
Re: Fury v Usyk is on.............!
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Primo Carnera
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NoSavingByTheBell
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TIC
tyson was beaten long before he even got in the ring. he tried to age oleksandr out, he tried to out price himself. he tried all the name calling. none of it worked. he threw everything at oleksandr & still couldn't get him out of there. oleksandr broke tyson down mentally & then physically
He looked shot in the first round
Yep. Cos a shot fighter “completely dominates the first 6 rounds and gets a draw” against a multiple World Champion. Dear me!
Your cognitive dissonance is not my concern
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I do not believe Fury should weigh more for the rematch. A few tweaks and he could get the win. The fight did take a lot out of Usyk.
Tyson has got the purpose of revenge now.
Re: Fury v Usyk is on.............!
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Get rid of John, check. Come in heavier, check. Everything else. You might as well save the column inches and simply say be better right?
The clowning wasn't showing off, it wasn't toying. It was panic. A placeholder for doing work. The realisation hit him quick. This man is making me do things I don't want to do, and I don't know what to do about it. So I'll pretend I've got some control. You could see it etched across his face.
The bottom line is, if Tyson could have repeated what he did from rounds 3-6 or wherever you feel he was most dominant, If he could have simply done more of the good things he did, he would have. He couldn't. He didn't choose not to. He wasn't allowed to.
Re: Fury v Usyk is on.............!
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NoSavingByTheBell
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Primo Carnera
https://www.givemesport.com/author/james-evans-99/
So this spotty little oik knows so much about Boxing that it PROVES you’ve been right all along.
It’s like saying “a guy down the pub said it so it must be true!”
Ps. If you’re gonna voice dictate your long tawdry posts, as an “ex Journo that followed the Royal Family around and an English teacher, I’m surprised you don’t spell check.”
Have you always imitated a Bactrian camel?
whereas you have always shown signs of Diprosopus.
Re: Fury v Usyk is on.............!
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Primo Carnera
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Originally Posted by
NoSavingByTheBell
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Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
https://www.givemesport.com/author/james-evans-99/
So this spotty little oik knows so much about Boxing that it PROVES you’ve been right all along.
It’s like saying “a guy down the pub said it so it must be true!”
Ps. If you’re gonna voice dictate your long tawdry posts, as an “ex Journo that followed the Royal Family around and an English teacher, I’m surprised you don’t spell check.”
Have you always imitated a Bactrian camel?
whereas you have always shown signs of Diprosopus.
Totally agree with how you see it.
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When I saw the Ukrainian whince and hop up and backwards like a rabbit from an uppercut I had a feeling that he fractured a mandible. I think he also has a hairline fracture in one of his ribs on the left side from another uppercut. He was definitely being smashed to bits. So it definitely took a lot out of him for sure. And fighting a super heavyweight as mediocre as he is in Anthony Joshua two times certainly took a lot out of him as well. I think Tyson Fury belts the living crap out of him in the rematch taking no prisoners and taking no chances and it will be all business and no Muhammad Ali impersonations
