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Why haven't we seen mass protests against other world leaders who have visited the UK?

What about when the prime minister of Saudi Arabia visited?
What about when the Chinese president visited?

Nah, it isn't as fashionable to show up for a protest against them, if the people protesting really cared then they would have been out in numbers for these people as well.

I may be wrong but I still believe the majority of these protesters were there for a day out rather than anything to do with things that trump has done since being president...oh a fair few of them probably went because they were in uproar because he once said he'd gran someone by the pussy.

I'm 100% behind protesting when it is legitimate but to me it just smacks of the modern day mentality of people, if love to find out the specific reasons that a lot of them had for being there.

I'm only going on my own personal experience of speaking to the anti Trump mobs that I meet and to be honest most of the most hardened anti Trumpists are likely to be massive fans of love island.

Personally as an Independent minded American who considers himself fair minded I've had my fill of licking Putins boots as a Country by way of the Presidents acceptance if not down right encouragement to ignore bi partisan findings that they committed hostile acts upon us. There is an active investigation literally handing down indictments on a dozen Russian military operatives and POTUS wants to have a "summit" behind closed doors with Putin while continually attacking our own intelligence agencies, dismissing law enforcement, undercutting our long standing allies and balancing our long term stability of nothing more than a tired worn rehash of ego driven cheap talking points catch phrases and willing negligence. Not one to wrap myself in the flag but you are an American before you are a Democrat or Republican. We've lost that.

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Why haven't we seen mass protests against other world leaders who have visited the UK?

What about when the prime minister of Saudi Arabia visited?
What about when the Chinese president visited?

Nah, it isn't as fashionable to show up for a protest against them, if the people protesting really cared then they would have been out in numbers for these people as well.

I may be wrong but I still believe the majority of these protesters were there for a day out rather than anything to do with things that trump has done since being president...oh a fair few of them probably went because they were in uproar because he once said he'd gran someone by the pussy.

I'm 100% behind protesting when it is legitimate but to me it just smacks of the modern day mentality of people, if love to find out the specific reasons that a lot of them had for being there.

I'm only going on my own personal experience of speaking to the anti Trump mobs that I meet and to be honest most of the most hardened anti Trumpists are likely to be massive fans of love island.

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There were demonstrations against Saudi and China but far less. That is because Trump is from our closest ally, the biggest country in the world and the most powerful nation ever. Trump would be news anyway but when you have his attitude towards women, immigration policy of separating families from children and firing anyone that exposes his lies then he will be bigger news.

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Originally Posted by Batman

Why haven't we seen mass protests against other world leaders who have visited the UK?

What about when the prime minister of Saudi Arabia visited?
What about when the Chinese president visited?

Nah, it isn't as fashionable to show up for a protest against them, if the people protesting really cared then they would have been out in numbers for these people as well.

I may be wrong but I still believe the majority of these protesters were there for a day out rather than anything to do with things that trump has done since being president...oh a fair few of them probably went because they were in uproar because he once said he'd gran someone by the pussy.

I'm 100% behind protesting when it is legitimate but to me it just smacks of the modern day mentality of people, if love to find out the specific reasons that a lot of them had for being there.

I'm only going on my own personal experience of speaking to the anti Trump mobs that I meet and to be honest most of the most hardened anti Trumpists are likely to be massive fans of love island.

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There were demonstrations against Saudi and China but far less. That is because Trump is from our closest ally, the biggest country in the world and the most powerful nation ever. Trump would be news anyway but when you have his attitude towards women, immigration policy of separating families from children and firing anyone that exposes his lies then he will be bigger news.

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Ya that must be why damn master you drank the cool aid

Some activists seeking to protest against Xi complained they were corralled out of his view, allowing his route in London to be lined mainly by supportive Chinese nationals seemingly organised by Beijing officials.

Shao Jiang, a survivor of the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests who lives in the UK, complained to the police watchdog after he was arrested for allegedly conspiring to commit a public order offence for running into a road near where Xi was expected holding two A4-sized protest signs.

The UK has been so dumbed down and browbeaten by the EU monstrosity and by political correctness that they cannot think for themselves anymore. Batman is right it is simply fashionable now to go out and act pretentiously the social justice Warrior protesting the animal fascist Orange Monster who hates all women and hates all immigrants and hates all non-white people


Get out the violins you melodramatic Panic Queens

Has anyone bothered to ask any of the British protesters WHY they're against Trump and are protesting?

Seems like a logical step to me.




But hey..... wtf do I know....... I don't live there.

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Has anyone bothered to ask any of the British protesters WHY they're against Trump and are protesting?

Seems like a logical step to me.




But hey..... wtf do I know....... I don't live there.

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Yes they have and for some of the reasons I stated.

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Has anyone bothered to ask any of the British protesters WHY they're against Trump and are protesting?

Seems like a logical step to me.




But hey..... wtf do I know....... I don't live there.

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Because he is racist and hates women

@TitoFan

reason number one is because he is against immigration and Europe is such left-wing liberals that they compare that with Hitler and they are very very over-sensitive and paranoid about even the most remote inkling of anything which even remotely resembles in anyone's wildest imaginations and over exaggerations and paranoia anything to do with fascism or Hitler or totalitarianism

reason number two is because he is a real Ladies Man and European men have been so emasculated over the past 20 or 30 years through the rabbit feminist movements that it is now a crime to be masculine or to act like a man or to say that you love women or that women look good and since Donald Trump has been a real ladies man right out in the open people in the United Kingdom and Europe hold hatred for him for this and despise him for this

reason number 3 is that Europeans are group animals and do everything in a huge Global is group for example the Paris Accord and Trump took the United States out of that as there's plenty of science which does not backup the ideas involved in that so-called imperative to eventually pay a global carbon tax for each and every one of our carbon footprint Jesus if if you're looking for a fascism there it is right there


so they're Tito there are three of the main reasons why British people hate Donald Trump and as you can see all three reasons are absolute poppycock

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What about when the prime minister of Saudi Arabia visited?
What about when the Chinese president visited?

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He's in good company, isn't he?

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Absolute shitshow with the Stzrok hearing today. The Democrats tried to block and stop everything. The Republicans did get flustered and they were pissed off about it. Peter Stzrok is mini-Comey a smug smarmy narcissist...."I can't recall sending that text"...."actually you have to look at the context surrounding the text".....oh really? I thought you "didn't remember"....what a piece of shit.

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This is good:

https://twitter.com/girlsreallyrule/...43754910224385

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Info for my mate kirky........Last week brought a little (at least short-term) good news if you’re worried about the yield curve inverting.

The 10-year U.S. Treasury yield rose above 3% for the first time in four years. This will be the opposite of inversion, if it persists. It makes the curve steeper unless short-term rates rise even more.

In spite of that, the yield curve is still abnormally flat. The gap between 2-year and 10-year Treasury yields hasn’t been this low since before the last recession. This gap dropped below zero—i.e. inverted—shortly before the last three recessions.

We haven’t seen it yet in this cycle. But we certainly could see inversion within the next year or so if it keeps dropping at the current rate.

That’s quite possible if the Fed keeps hiking because they have hit their inflation and employment targets.

An Inverted Yield Curve Is a Far-Leading Indicator

The Fed is now walking a very tight rope. The Fed knows deep down that it has to get rates back up so that it has a few “bullets” for the next recession.

It is likely the Fed will keep hiking rates until we get to an inverted yield curve. Is the Fed aware of all the literature and what it’s doing? Absolutely. Candidly, I can’t imagine accepting a Fed appointment knowing that we are this late in the cycle.

Does an inverted yield curve guarantee a recession? No, but inversions are strong evidence that one is forming.

Last month, yet another new San Francisco Fed study found an inverted yield curve—which predicted all nine US recessions since 1955 and is still valid even in today’s low-rate environment.

However, yield curve inversion is a far-leading indicator, which is why my previous recession and bear market calls were early. Those nine recessions all began 6–24 months after the yield curve inverted.

And, in the ones I’m old enough to remember, many experts spent those months telling us that this time was different. (Spoiler: It wasn’t.) And I expect the same again.

Look around at all the great economic news. I’m aware of it. But the economy was hitting on all cylinders in early 2000 and late 2006, too. The numbers always look great right before a recession. Then it all rolls over at once.

A Sign That Something Is Rotten

An inverted yield curve doesn’t immediately damage the economy. It’s like fever. It points to damage that is already happening—an underlying infection.

It means bond investors have lost short-term confidence in the economy and want to lock in longer-term interest rates.

You don’t want to buy, say, one-year bills if you think rates will be lower when it’s time to reinvest them. That will be the case if, for instance, you expect the Fed to be lowering rates to stave off recession.

Fevers usually don’t kill you, they are a symptom of something being wrong. But if a fever gets high enough or lasts long enough, it will kill you. Which is why hospitals work so hard to keep your fever down.

A steeply inverted yield curve that goes on long enough is like having 108° fever. Both banks and shadow lenders go upside down on their “book” and stop making loans. That can freeze the economy and make a garden-variety recession even worse.

Which is why any central bank facing that scenario lowers rates and fights the yield curve.

The London Interbank Offering Rate (LIBOR) has for most of my adult life been the world’s most important private interest rate. By now, you know that it is going away and new substitutes are coming. But LIBOR is still out there for a short time, so let’s look at it.

There’s now less than a 60 basis point spread on the Treasury 2/10, and half that if you’re using LIBOR, which I think of as more free market.

If you go out the LIBOR swap market, you find a 20-year swap is not much different than a 10-year. The further out the curve you go, the flatter it gets. This is what happens at the end of an economic cycle and right before the yield curve inverts.

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his is actually not bad. This man is a non idiot.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...us-dollar.html

Kirky here is another article about China and Russia. I know there was also talk about China dumping bond holdings but they suspect that was just saber rattling because of trade. However Russia and China have been talking about a gold backed currency rather than the current petro dollar which has been used since the seventies. We made an agreement at the time for oil purchases to be done only in dollars. China beat us as the the largest importer of oil and there usage will continue to grow so they can put pressure on the house of saud to to accept the yuan. We provide security to the Saudi oil field so we can apply pressure. It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out

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The is just some idiot talking his book (selling his own firm/position).

You can't have a currency backed by gold and a couple of autocracies supplanting the dollar. You'd need endless economic, legal, political changes that will never happen for it to be theoretically possible and if it was backed by gold it'd be less useful than Bitcoin. A few years ago China managed to get the IMF to use their currency as one of the five that are used to peg the value of Special Drawing Rights. These kind of moves and annoncements are just China and Russia trying to cause America any kind of problem they can. They can't compete militarily so they try and fuck with America in other ways.

What's important for people deciding where to put their capital and people deciding where to invest is whether a country has opportunities available under an umbrella of politcal and legal stability, maybe with a bit of history of stability and functioning rule of law to back that up. China and Russia don't come close to anybody you would want running some kind of supranational currency.

And if Trump does screw things up and the dollar somehow loses its reserve status it'll actually help the US economy as much as it hurts it. Although if we do get to that point nobody will be thanking him it's fair to say.

Also, too, the US offers protection to the Saudis in the same way five Italian families offer businesses in New York protection from losses. This kind of behaviour is on the way out. Look how China are building trading relationships around the world and look at what they're looking to succeed in over the next hundred years -- they're looking and building to be number one in all the industries which will dominate the future. That's where we're fucking up, not with nonsense like this.

So we've moved onto "all Brits" now because of 30-50,000 out of 50 million? Ridiculous.

As many British people love Trump as hate him, most are indifferent. The same goes for all polarising characters. Contrary to all the conspiracy merchants bleating on about untrustworthy bias MSM, you hear as many people say Farage should be PM as should be shot, the same with Corbyn, depends on the company/demographic/individual.

I see things similar to @Batman. All I see is hypocrites, fudged numbers and followers of fashion on both sides.

And whilst they fight over a balloon, Trump is shanking a 9-iron around beautiful Turnberry whilst sucking in the finest Scottish coast air and guzzling a Dom Perignon, he wouldn't piss on you if you was on fire.

I want to suck in the finest Scottish air
At Turnberry and at Stornoway and at Bellaire

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...us-dollar.html

Kirky here is another article about China and Russia. I know there was also talk about China dumping bond holdings but they suspect that was just saber rattling because of trade. However Russia and China have been talking about a gold backed currency rather than the current petro dollar which has been used since the seventies. We made an agreement at the time for oil purchases to be done only in dollars. China beat us as the the largest importer of oil and there usage will continue to grow so they can put pressure on the house of saud to to accept the yuan. We provide security to the Saudi oil field so we can apply pressure. It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out

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The is just some idiot talking his book (selling his own firm/position).

You can't have a currency backed by gold and a couple of autocracies supplanting the dollar. You'd need endless economic, legal, political changes that will never happen for it to be theoretically possible and if it was backed by gold it'd be less useful than Bitcoin. A few years ago China managed to get the IMF to use their currency as one of the five that are used to peg the value of Special Drawing Rights. These kind of moves and annoncements are just China and Russia trying to cause America any kind of problem they can. They can't compete militarily so they try and fuck with America in other ways.

What's important for people deciding where to put their capital and people deciding where to invest is whether a country has opportunities available under an umbrella of politcal and legal stability, maybe with a bit of history of stability and functioning rule of law to back that up. China and Russia don't come close to anybody you would want running some kind of supranational currency.

And if Trump does screw things up and the dollar somehow loses its reserve status it'll actually help the US economy as much as it hurts it. Although if we do get to that point nobody will be thanking him it's fair to say.

Also, too, the US offers protection to the Saudis in the same way five Italian families offer businesses in New York protection from losses. This kind of behaviour is on the way out. Look how China are building trading relationships around the world and look at what they're looking to succeed in over the next hundred years -- they're looking and building to be number one in all the industries which will dominate the future. That's where we're fucking up, not with nonsense like this.

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Not nonsense investors are talking about it a lot. It doesn’t mean much now but it shows China’s desire. As of this time China is after a different crude than we are. The point is what u said, China’s effort to dominate which is why I brought it up in the first place u dolt.

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I want to suck in the finest Scottish air
At Turnberry and at Stornoway and at Bellaire

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At least there would be the potential for someone to wrap a nine iron around your head.

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I want to suck in the finest Scottish air
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At least there would be the potential for someone to wrap a nine iron around your head.

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HA

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I want to suck in the finest Scottish air
At Turnberry and at Stornoway and at Bellaire

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At least there would be the potential for someone to wrap a nine iron around your head.

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Wrap a nine iron round your head
Wheel your way to Stansted
Suck the Scottish air with Glee
Take a shit, a dump, a pee---
You ne'er met a couple o' queens
Bcuz your name is fooking ~beanz~

Who do u think would win in a fight, Rambo or Rocky

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Who do u think would win in a fight, Rambo or Rocky

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That's easy, the correct answer is John Spartan from Demolition Man

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Who do u think would win in a fight, Rambo or Rocky

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That's easy, the correct answer is John Spartan from Demolition Man

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Damn dude u got me with that one.

If I was gay, I would travel to England just to have hot gay sex with @Kirkland Laing

"IF"?!?!?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/th...id=mailsignout



Looks like the blimp is making the transatlantic voyage. I'm no soothsayer but........ could the Albuquerque International Balloon Fiesta be in this blimp's future? :D

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Utter bullshit again from those willing to swallow Trumps regurgitated lies. There were protests against Trump all over the UK in towns and cities from Cornwall to the tip of Scotland people came out in huge numbers to voice their disgust at being treated with contempt by the traitorous cunt who continues to do the bidding of the Deep State that are pulling his strings. Already Bannon and Trump have interfered in a democratic referendum, done their best to tear apart Europe and any alliances that do not reflect their own Xenophobic totalitarian dogma and now the fatuous fuckwit has shat all over the memory of Churchill, had a tantrum at Nato, dissed a 92 year old woman who unlike him actually did not bottle it when the call came to fight for her country, stuck his middle finger up to both Brexiteers and Remainers managing to gob at the entire British population, mocked and patronised the British Prime Minister and suggested that another lechereous buffoon in his mirror image be installed as a replacement. He lied by denying everything he was broadcast saying the night before across all the British News networks and Lyle, Brockton, Walrus and Gandalf none of whom live here fell for it.

So low and desperate have they become in their clamour to be the first to insert their tongue up his arse that they have now resorted to questioning the character of basically anyone in Britain who clearly saw how much Bullshit this Orange bullshit artist spouts in just 48 hrs.

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Everyone sure it was a Trump baby balloon and it wasn't just Beanz floating over London?

What were they protesting? Trump yes, but what about him? What SPECIFICALLY bothers so many people? Trump offered May all of the political force she would need to make Brexit happen. After all Brexit is the will of the people (as much as it hurts your poor little feelings Beanz....the people voted Brexit....they didn't vote remain).

The Brexit referendum happened before Trump was even President, in fact he had only just secured the GOP nomination 16 days prior to the Brexit vote. Apparently you think Trump's influence is of epic proportions.

@Beanz I'll ask you directly and I want you to try and hold back your tears and answer like a fucking adult....What has Trump said or done which is "xenophobic"? Provide specifics and maybe, just maybe we can have a discussion...if that is actually what you want, I don't believe it is what you want I believe you want to bitch and moan because you're pathetic like that.

Trump has done nothing at all to Churchill's memory.

America pays more into NATO than any other nation (ditto for the UN). So basically we're buying your drinks and keeping Russia off your backs and you're ungrateful, we get it and we're cool with not having NATO anymore, maybe that money would be better spent on Americans in America rather than protecting entitled brats like you.

"Dissed a 92 year old woman".....ah yes, your "royalty" :rolleyes:....haven't cared about that since 1776.

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Utter bullshit again from those willing to swallow Trumps regurgitated lies. There were protests against Trump all over the UK in towns and cities from Cornwall to the tip of Scotland people came out in huge numbers to voice their disgust at being treated with contempt by the traitorous cunt who continues to do the bidding of the Deep State that are pulling his strings. Already Bannon and Trump have interfered in a democratic referendum, done their best to tear apart Europe and any alliances that do not reflect their own Xenophobic totalitarian dogma and now the fatuous fuckwit has shat all over the memory of Churchill, had a tantrum at Nato, dissed a 92 year old woman who unlike him actually did not bottle it when the call came to fight for her country, stuck his middle finger up to both Brexiteers and Remainers managing to gob at the entire British population, mocked and patronised the British Prime Minister and suggested that another lechereous buffoon in his mirror image be installed as a replacement. He lied by denying everything he was broadcast saying the night before across all the British News networks and Lyle, Brockton, Walrus and Gandalf none of whom live here fell for it.

So low and desperate have they become in their clamour to be the first to insert their tongue up his arse that they have now resorted to questioning the character of basically anyone in Britain who clearly saw how much Bullshit this Orange bullshit artist spouts in just 48 hrs.

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Everyone sure it was a Trump baby balloon and it wasn't just Beanz floating over London?

What were they protesting? Trump yes, but what about him? What SPECIFICALLY bothers so many people? Trump offered May all of the political force she would need to make Brexit happen. After all Brexit is the will of the people (as much as it hurts your poor little feelings Beanz....the people voted Brexit....they didn't vote remain).

The Brexit referendum happened before Trump was even President, in fact he had only just secured the GOP nomination 16 days prior to the Brexit vote. Apparently you think Trump's influence is of epic proportions.

@Beanz I'll ask you directly and I want you to try and hold back your tears and answer like a fucking adult....What has Trump said or done which is "xenophobic"? Provide specifics and maybe, just maybe we can have a discussion...if that is actually what you want, I don't believe it is what you want I believe you want to bitch and moan because you're pathetic like that.

Trump has done nothing at all to Churchill's memory.

America pays more into NATO than any other nation (ditto for the UN). So basically we're buying your drinks and keeping Russia off your backs and you're ungrateful, we get it and we're cool with not having NATO anymore, maybe that money would be better spent on Americans in America rather than protecting entitled brats like you.

"Dissed a 92 year old woman".....ah yes, your "royalty" :rolleyes:....haven't cared about that since 1776.

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Open your eyes Lyle. You are incredibly easily led and gullible so maybe before reverting to your usual position of just repeating the propaganda that the alt right teat you sup from is feeding you, try actually looking at what you are dismissing and instead of joining Trump in sticking your middle finger up to Britain, Europe and all the history and tradition that your ancestors brought to America, show a little respect and respect free speech and people's right to protest.

Satire particularly in the form of caricature has been a British tradition since the days of Hogarth and Dickens, it is alive and well now and is as much a part of our daily culture as a cup of tea. You will find people like Scarfe in the daily newspapers taking the piss out of everyone from right across the political spectrum. Trump like you IS a baby. He insists on being able to spout the same kind of bullshit you do with just as many lies and never admits or apolgises for it when called out. Sound familiar?

People were protesting in solidarity. So as well as the majority of women protestors (who we all know you have a massive problem with because either you are under the thumb or have a 1 inch prick who knows) protesting his attitude towards women, there were people from Stonewall protesting his attitude and laws against serving trans people in the US forces, Amnesty international protesting against his human rights abuses , people protesting against his pro Saudi and anti Palestinian violence, people protesting Bullying of which he is a figurehead, people protesting against his blatant racism, showing solidarity with Khan, Muslims and Minorities all of whom he seems to have issues with , much like yourself and your MSM of alt right FOX snowflakes.


I know you do not believe in personal responsibility and like Murdoch would say anything to avoid doing so but most people do take responsibility for their actions and Trump has yet to do that once. You seem to think that Trump has no responsibilities to anyone. You do not believe he represents America but he does. When he disses the NHS a day after it's 70th birthday has been celebrated across the country he reflects badly on you and your country. When he disrespects the Queen it again reflects badly on not just America but YOU personally. I am not a Royalist, but I am a realist, and the truth is she begged to be able to support the war effort as a mechanic and truck driver while Donald ran away. She is 92 that alone should grant her more respect than being walked in front of. You don't give a fuck because you have no respect.


I get that you are pro facist now, you have made it quite clear in your adoration of Putin and Milo, Bannon, Trump etc and so you will never admit that Trumps backing of the White power movement, His anti-Mexican, anti- European, anti-Muslim statements are evidence of his xenophobia or his and your own adoption of the mantra 'fear and hate the other' which makes you both about as UnAmerican as you could be.


Hope that answers your dumb questions Cleetus.

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Open your eyes Lyle. You are incredibly easily led and gullible so maybe before reverting to your usual position of just repeating the propaganda that the alt right teat you sup from is feeding you, try actually looking at what you are dismissing and instead of joining Trump in sticking your middle finger up to Britain, Europe and all the history and tradition that your ancestors brought to America, show a little respect and respect free speech and people's right to protest.

Satire particularly in the form of caricature has been a British tradition since the days of Hogarth and Dickens, it is alive and well now and is as much a part of our daily culture as a cup of tea. You will find people like Scarfe in the daily newspapers taking the piss out of everyone from right across the political spectrum. Trump like you IS a baby. He insists on being able to spout the same kind of bullshit you do with just as many lies and never admits or apolgises for it when called out. Sound familiar?

People were protesting in solidarity. So as well as the majority of women protestors (who we all know you have a massive problem with because either you are under the thumb or have a 1 inch prick who knows) protesting his attitude towards women, there were people from Stonewall protesting his attitude and laws against serving trans people in the US forces, Amnesty international protesting against his human rights abuses , people protesting against his pro Saudi and anti Palestinian violence, people protesting Bullying of which he is a figurehead, people protesting against his blatant racism, showing solidarity with Khan, Muslims and Minorities all of whom he seems to have issues with , much like yourself and your MSM of alt right FOX snowflakes.


I know you do not believe in personal responsibility and like Murdoch would say anything to avoid doing so but most people do take responsibility for their actions and Trump has yet to do that once. You seem to think that Trump has no responsibilities to anyone. You do not believe he represents America but he does. When he disses the NHS a day after it's 70th birthday has been celebrated across the country he reflects badly on you and your country. When he disrespects the Queen it again reflects badly on not just America but YOU personally. I am not a Royalist, but I am a realist, and the truth is she begged to be able to support the war effort as a mechanic and truck driver while Donald ran away. She is 92 that alone should grant her more respect than being walked in front of. You don't give a fuck because you have no respect.


I get that you are pro facist now, you have made it quite clear in your adoration of Putin and Milo, Bannon, Trump etc and so you will never admit that Trumps backing of the White power movement, His anti-Mexican, anti- European, anti-Muslim statements are evidence of his xenophobia or his and your own adoption of the mantra 'fear and hate the other' which makes you both about as UnAmerican as you could be.


Hope that answers your dumb questions Cleetus.

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The tradition of what America flipping the bill to cover your asses in case the Russians want to invade? Cold War is over pal and if you still want protection then come off the hip for it you fucking freeloading bastard. "We've got the NHS, WE do healthcare for all and we do it better than the United States"....yeah well the United States is a little busy making up for your military weaknesses and not getting paid to do so.


Yeah, sounds like you you emotionally crippled piece of shit.


Trump's attitude toward women? His female campaign manager was the first ever female campaign manager to be on the winning side of a Presidential election. Sarah Huckabee Sanders the WH press secretary a strong woman who takes no shit off the press. So Trump has been married a few times, so what? The armed forces is no place for people with psychological problems. What human rights abuses? The Saudis have made a little progress, we'll see where that goes. Palestine is a shithole because they want to be....they are given money which they use to dig tunnels and attack Israel instead of better the lives of their people and provide them opportunities to work and be successful. Israel gives Palestine some greenhouses to grow and sell flowers but the Palestinians use the space to fire rockets because those Palestinians are idiots.


You don't know much about me Beanz you assume a great deal, but you don't know much.

How is Trump fascist?

White power? You mean the guy who got awards from the NAACP?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b2/80...6c3b31a367.jpg

That guy? The one next to Rosa Parks and Muhammad Ali? LMAO.

Trump isn't anti-Mexican....he's anti-ILLEGAL Immigrant....giant difference but you are unable to understand that. Anti-Europe? He's anti-European nations mistaking America's kindness for weakness, pay what you owe you fucking freeloaders. Anti-Muslim? More like Anti-Terrorist.


I don't adore Putin, I don't adore Milo and Bannon. But whatever you say Beanz if you want to put those words in my mouth if that makes it easier for you to play pretend knock yourself out. You work yourself up into this rage (who me??).


Get yourself out on that beach and stop the invasion you hero :rolleyes:

So @Beanz not liking these kinds of immigrants

13-year-old girl beheaded after seeing grandmother killed in Alabama cemetery
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/n...0XH3ppnhsdg8N/

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Is "racist" and "xenophobic"????

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Yup the American women have it way waaaaaaay worse.

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Yup the American women have it way waaaaaaay worse.

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This is how low you will go, Lyle. Scraping the barrel in order to hide your own scum in a flurry of invented outrage. You don't give a fuck about Yazidi girls, or innocent children who are victims of IS, all you care about is American women and children because you think they are somehow different and special cases. You have admitted this. You think nothing of using the dead victims of terrorist attacks as ways to score what you think are political brownie points, even when they are British or European. I never once said American women had it way worse, and never would I. Quite the opposite. When I talked of meeting, talking with documenting the brave Kurdish women who fought Isis a few years back you and your pals mocked it as an empty SJW gesture so in fact you are describing your own behaviour here.

This is what you do. Get on your soapbox and moralize over anyone that dare have a more balanced and less tribal and childish outlook than you, whilst projecting your own fear and ignorance onto others.

When wanting to read up on politics, including international issues, I try to look for sources that at least give the impression of being neutral and objective. I try to weed out the subjective, biased, frothing-at-the-mouth articles where the author's biases seem to ooze out of their pores. But I do like to read what others have to say, especially the opinions of those who live in the place where the events or issues are going on. All of this is to say that I've been very interested in what the typical Brit has to say about Trump, his visit, and his politics.

My own opinions about Trump I think I've said numerous times. The guy's like a bull in a china shop. No regard for protocol, courteous human interaction, or even looking or sounding the part of the leader of the most powerful nation in the free world. He spits out comments and Tweets like he's in a back alley conversation, without caring whose feelings are hurt or who he offends. He makes unfortunate comments and generalizations, hurting good people in the process. But on the other hand he has clearly stated goals, which he has communicated, and is hell bent on achieving those goals, come hell or high water. His opponent in the 2016 Presidential race couldn't have been worse. Hillary Clinton would've made a worse POTUS than the captain of the Titanic turned out to be for his ship. Apparently, the US public was "up to here" with cookie cutter politicians, spouting the same shit over and over and never doing a damn thing to help the US public. Electing Trump was their statement. That the guy has zero decorum and is a total asshole as a person.... that's beside the point. Hopefully, Washington has gotten the message, and the next President after Trump will learn The Lesson. That American voters won't put up with meaningless politicians anymore.

But now that he's abroad, how do other countries' citizens feel about him? Again, I look for articles that at least seem objective, with points of view only those living in those countries could have.
With that in mind, I'll post this link from The Spectator.


https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/07/...hat-hes-right/

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This is how low you will go, Lyle. Scraping the barrel in order to hide your own scum in a flurry of invented outrage. You don't give a fuck about Yazidi girls, or innocent children who are victims of IS, all you care about is American women and children because you think they are somehow different and special cases. You have admitted this. You think nothing of using the dead victims of terrorist attacks as ways to score what you think are political brownie points, even when they are British or European. I never once said American women had it way worse, and never would I. Quite the opposite. When I talked of meeting, talking with documenting the brave Kurdish women who fought Isis a few years back you and your pals mocked it as an empty SJW gesture so in fact you are describing your own behaviour here.

This is what you do. Get on your soapbox and moralize over anyone that dare have a more balanced and less tribal and childish outlook than you, whilst projecting your own fear and ignorance onto others.

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What scum am I hiding @Beanz? Care to elaborate?

No, I think it's only proper for certain groups of people (your type, the bleeding hearts) to understand what they take for granted in every day life.

I DO care about Americans more than other folks because Americans are my friends, my family, my neighbors....but I guess that's not good according to Beanz :dontknow:

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You think nothing of using the dead victims of terrorist attacks as ways to score what you think are political brownie points, even when they are British or European.

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Yeah you know, because terrorist attacks aren't caused by a certain population, I mean they're caused by anybody really and you know maybe it's just the patriarchy causing young men to do these things, but we DO know for 100% certain that it's #NOTALLMUSLIMS .....we know that for an absolute FACT......if there was a terrorist attack in Europe today I'm certain it wouldn't be ALL Muslims, it would be just a few who did it. I'm fairly certain even your Kurds would be able to guess who is responsible for a terrorist attack but you're all :wisesmilie: "Bring in more refugees....they're refugees :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: " I guess the rape gangs and acid attacks and terrorism is done by actual honest to God Britons and not folks of a certain background....yup it's that wanker Tommy Robinson he's responsible for the violence surely wouldn't be guys like Anjam Choudary....wouldn't be those dudes.

You see Lee Rigby get massacred in the middle of the street in broad fucking daylight and you're STILL trying to defend the animals who do that shit it is so pathetic.

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Such protest, much wow



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Yyyyyyyyyeah Beanz's friendzies :gay5:

You know no one is blaming Tommy Robinson for the attacks but you making a martyr of him for free speech is sickening.

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You know no one is blaming Tommy Robinson for the attacks but you making a martyr of him for free speech is sickening.

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Ummm I have done nothing to cause Tommy to be viewed as a martyr, the ENGLISH legal system has accomplished that, thank them!

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...us-dollar.html

Kirky here is another article about China and Russia. I know there was also talk about China dumping bond holdings but they suspect that was just saber rattling because of trade. However Russia and China have been talking about a gold backed currency rather than the current petro dollar which has been used since the seventies. We made an agreement at the time for oil purchases to be done only in dollars. China beat us as the the largest importer of oil and there usage will continue to grow so they can put pressure on the house of saud to to accept the yuan. We provide security to the Saudi oil field so we can apply pressure. It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out

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The is just some idiot talking his book (selling his own firm/position).

You can't have a currency backed by gold and a couple of autocracies supplanting the dollar. You'd need endless economic, legal, political changes that will never happen for it to be theoretically possible and if it was backed by gold it'd be less useful than Bitcoin. A few years ago China managed to get the IMF to use their currency as one of the five that are used to peg the value of Special Drawing Rights. These kind of moves and annoncements are just China and Russia trying to cause America any kind of problem they can. They can't compete militarily so they try and fuck with America in other ways.

What's important for people deciding where to put their capital and people deciding where to invest is whether a country has opportunities available under an umbrella of politcal and legal stability, maybe with a bit of history of stability and functioning rule of law to back that up. China and Russia don't come close to anybody you would want running some kind of supranational currency.

And if Trump does screw things up and the dollar somehow loses its reserve status it'll actually help the US economy as much as it hurts it. Although if we do get to that point nobody will be thanking him it's fair to say.

Also, too, the US offers protection to the Saudis in the same way five Italian families offer businesses in New York protection from losses. This kind of behaviour is on the way out. Look how China are building trading relationships around the world and look at what they're looking to succeed in over the next hundred years -- they're looking and building to be number one in all the industries which will dominate the future. That's where we're fucking up, not with nonsense like this.

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Not nonsense investors are talking about it a lot. It doesn’t mean much now but it shows China’s desire. As of this time China is after a different crude than we are. The point is what u said, China’s effort to dominate which is why I brought it up in the first place u dolt.

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Do you know how many decades a version of this story has been doing the rounds? Since long before you were born. In the sixties it was the Saudis and OPEC who were going to launch a currency to take over from the dollar as the world's reserve currency, then it was endless variations depending on what looked like the most believable thing at the time. Where the fuck are Russia and China going to come up with the deep and liquid capital markets that took over a century for America to build and the primacy of the rule of law which is a fucking joke in their countries? Anybody who is talking about this seriously and not trying to sell somebody something or get them to invest with them is a fucking stone idiot.

As far as how the economy works and people arguing the president or a certain set of policies is/are the determining things for how the economy works then I have to say that the single greatest determinant over your personal situation, economic prospects and how your life will turn out is a bunch of unelected bankers who run monetary policy. These guys:

https://ei.marketwatch.com/Multimedi...5-0d659a334ccb

If you want to know about the singlemost thing that will affect your life then you should read this article. It'll give you a good idea how things work:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/b...s-profits.html


If anybody wants to know any more or has any questions you can ask and I'll answer. Don't be shy. There are people worth nine and ten figure amounts who have no idea about this stuff, they read the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal and believe a crazy right wing Journal world where tax cuts and deregulation are the key to everything is how things work. If you read this article you'll know far more than endless wealthy people do about how the economy works.

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When wanting to read up on politics, including international issues, I try to look for sources that at least give the impression of being neutral and objective. I try to weed out the subjective, biased, frothing-at-the-mouth articles where the author's biases seem to ooze out of their pores. But I do like to read what others have to say, especially the opinions of those who live in the place where the events or issues are going on. All of this is to say that I've been very interested in what the typical Brit has to say about Trump, his visit, and his politics.

My own opinions about Trump I think I've said numerous times. The guy's like a bull in a china shop. No regard for protocol, courteous human interaction, or even looking or sounding the part of the leader of the most powerful nation in the free world. He spits out comments and Tweets like he's in a back alley conversation, without caring whose feelings are hurt or who he offends. He makes unfortunate comments and generalizations, hurting good people in the process. But on the other hand he has clearly stated goals, which he has communicated, and is hell bent on achieving those goals, come hell or high water. His opponent in the 2016 Presidential race couldn't have been worse. Hillary Clinton would've made a worse POTUS than the captain of the Titanic turned out to be for his ship. Apparently, the US public was "up to here" with cookie cutter politicians, spouting the same shit over and over and never doing a damn thing to help the US public. Electing Trump was their statement. That the guy has zero decorum and is a total asshole as a person.... that's beside the point. Hopefully, Washington has gotten the message, and the next President after Trump will learn The Lesson. That American voters won't put up with meaningless politicians anymore.

But now that he's abroad, how do other countries' citizens feel about him? Again, I look for articles that at least seem objective, with points of view only those living in those countries could have.
With that in mind, I'll post this link from The Spectator.


https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/07/...hat-hes-right/

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The Spectator is probably the most right wing mainstream publication in Britain. It is nowhere close to objective. I read it for years because it had a fantastic column written by somebody called Jeffery Bernard. At the same time it used to publish a column written by an outright fascist and a guy who now financially backs the Greek fascist party.

And this is brilliant. What a maroon.

https://twitter.com/HadleyFreeman/st...00420782362631


Also, too, Ali G and various American politicians:

https://twitter.com/mindpivot/status...70260846694400