Are you in sri Lanka?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Thing is, is it not about money thoQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
So does haye really have to do anything in the ring to be a serious consideration?
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Are you in sri Lanka?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Thing is, is it not about money thoQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
So does haye really have to do anything in the ring to be a serious consideration?
What a stupid thing to say, 'clown'? having been undisputed CW world title holder and WBA HW title holder? Having only lost to the multiple HW belt holder Vlad. If you've got nothing better than to post hate then fuck off.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
He was never undisputed cruiser!
He was a unified champ but never undisputed! Cunningham had the IBF.
Good point, haye only had 2 succesful cruiserweight world title figths, which is still very impressive but I think his cruiserweight reign gets overrated a bit , it would of been nice to see how he would have done against the polish champs at that time , uss cunningham and huck. I guess we shall never know which is unfortunatley the story of hayes career :(Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
not that I am a haye fan at all but he looks to have a fair bit of talent and it would have been really interesting to see what he could have done when he was at his best against more of the top contenders .
Point taken, but even you, as Haye's slagger off in chief, would hardly call him a clownQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
Not yet, in Abu DhabiQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterAre you in sri Lanka?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Thing is, is it not about money thoQuote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
So does haye really have to do anything in the ring to be a serious consideration?
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Originally Posted by nuggetdotcomWhat a stupid thing to say, 'clown'? having been undisputed CW world title holder and WBA HW title holder? Having only lost to the multiple HW belt holder Vlad. If you've got nothing better than to post hate then fuck off.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Chill bro. It's obvious you're a Haye fan and the clown label hurt your feelings.
Still... consider the following. The guy refused to follow the beaten path to the championship challenge, and always felt this strange entitlement to fight only Wlad. This is an affront to every other contender out there that has paid their dues in the HW division. A big mouth and rabid fans doesn't automatically punch your ticket to a championship fight.
Secondly.... the guy wins the trash talking championship over ANY previous opponent Wlad has ever had. Combined!! I for one was excited about the prospect of Haye upsetting the champion, as I've never been a fan of Wlad's. Then comes the actual fight and Toe-gate. All talk.... no action.... and blames it on his big toe. Wham! I become an instant hater. Add to that his mysterious pull-outs with inexplicable eye brow gashes days before a major fight.... and more mindless trash-talking.
You know.... talent wise and definitely power wise he may be right up there with Tyson Fury. Fury didn't exactly burn the stadium down when he beat the timid Wlad. Tyson also talks a lot of crap, for which he gets criticized tremendously. But at least he delivers. He talked a lot of crap about Wlad before the fight (must be a British HW thing)..... but then he went out there and did it. Also, Tyson keeps busy. On the contrary..... other fighters have ducked HIM and pulled out against HIM.
So if someone calls Haye a clown, he's not alone. I'm sure he's been called a lot worse.
Its not a question of just being a fan, I am not a football stupid nut. You cannot disrespect world title winners and call them clowns, end of. People who do that have no place on this site.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by nuggetdotcomWhat a stupid thing to say, 'clown'? having been undisputed CW world title holder and WBA HW title holder? Having only lost to the multiple HW belt holder Vlad. If you've got nothing better than to post hate then fuck off.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Chill bro. It's obvious you're a Haye fan and the clown label hurt your feelings.
Still... consider the following. The guy refused to follow the beaten path to the championship challenge, and always felt this strange entitlement to fight only Wlad. This is an affront to every other contender out there that has paid their dues in the HW division. A big mouth and rabid fans doesn't automatically punch your ticket to a championship fight.
Secondly.... the guy wins the trash talking championship over ANY previous opponent Wlad has ever had. Combined!! I for one was excited about the prospect of Haye upsetting the champion, as I've never been a fan of Wlad's. Then comes the actual fight and Toe-gate. All talk.... no action.... and blames it on his big toe. Wham! I become an instant hater. Add to that his mysterious pull-outs with inexplicable eye brow gashes days before a major fight.... and more mindless trash-talking.
You know.... talent wise and definitely power wise he may be right up there with Tyson Fury. Fury didn't exactly burn the stadium down when he beat the timid Wlad. Tyson also talks a lot of crap, for which he gets criticized tremendously. But at least he delivers. He talked a lot of crap about Wlad before the fight (must be a British HW thing)..... but then he went out there and did it. Also, Tyson keeps busy. On the contrary..... other fighters have ducked HIM and pulled out against HIM.
So if someone calls Haye a clown, he's not alone. I'm sure he's been called a lot worse.
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Originally Posted by nuggetdotcomIts not a question of just being a fan, I am not a football stupid nut. You cannot disrespect world title winners and call them clowns, end of. People who do that have no place on this site.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by nuggetdotcomWhat a stupid thing to say, 'clown'? having been undisputed CW world title holder and WBA HW title holder? Having only lost to the multiple HW belt holder Vlad. If you've got nothing better than to post hate then fuck off.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Chill bro. It's obvious you're a Haye fan and the clown label hurt your feelings.
Still... consider the following. The guy refused to follow the beaten path to the championship challenge, and always felt this strange entitlement to fight only Wlad. This is an affront to every other contender out there that has paid their dues in the HW division. A big mouth and rabid fans doesn't automatically punch your ticket to a championship fight.
Secondly.... the guy wins the trash talking championship over ANY previous opponent Wlad has ever had. Combined!! I for one was excited about the prospect of Haye upsetting the champion, as I've never been a fan of Wlad's. Then comes the actual fight and Toe-gate. All talk.... no action.... and blames it on his big toe. Wham! I become an instant hater. Add to that his mysterious pull-outs with inexplicable eye brow gashes days before a major fight.... and more mindless trash-talking.
You know.... talent wise and definitely power wise he may be right up there with Tyson Fury. Fury didn't exactly burn the stadium down when he beat the timid Wlad. Tyson also talks a lot of crap, for which he gets criticized tremendously. But at least he delivers. He talked a lot of crap about Wlad before the fight (must be a British HW thing)..... but then he went out there and did it. Also, Tyson keeps busy. On the contrary..... other fighters have ducked HIM and pulled out against HIM.
So if someone calls Haye a clown, he's not alone. I'm sure he's been called a lot worse.
Would "self-aggrandizing, obnoxious, loudmouth, deluded jerk" be better than "clown"?
"Clown" is after all technically inaccurate, since Haye doesn't go around with a bright red nose and oversized shoes. The other adjectives, nevertheless.... would seem to be accurate.
Cunningham had the IBF title because it had been stripped from Bell, who was the unified lineal champ, before losing to Mormek who subsequently lost to Haye.
Haye was the lineal cruiser champ, THE man, just like Tyson Fury currently is in the heavyweight division despite not having all the belts.
Cunningham beat a defending champion to win the belt then defended it by knocking out Huck. Thats why Haye didnt want it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Haye would have beaten him if he wanted to face him but the big money was at heavyweight. I am glad he went up and tested himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossCunningham beat a defending champion to win the belt then defended it by knocking out Huck. Thats why Haye didnt want it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Yes and according to a lot of other people he would also have beaten Tyson Fury;DQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterHaye would have beaten him if he wanted to face him but the big money was at heavyweight. I am glad he went up and tested himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossCunningham beat a defending champion to win the belt then defended it by knocking out Huck. Thats why Haye didnt want it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Its a shame Haye never shared that confidence!
Haye as heavyweight was better than fighting Cunningham.
I dont get your point?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Cunningham has faced better opposition at heavy bar Klitschko than Haye did!