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Sarah Palin Before she caught covid19
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sarah Palin after she caught covid19
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Stricken with COVID, Sarah Palin urges her followers to ‘use common sense’ and mask up
Fortune · 4/1/2021 · by The Associated Press
B.1.351 breaks through both AstraZeneca and Pfizer vaccines. Mass vaccinations during pandemics is the worst possible strategy. They have now created super-charged variants -- just like Bossche and Yeadon have said. YOu cannot mass-vaccinate in the middle of a pandemic. P.1a and P.1b are also breaking through the Moderna vaccine. Yeadon nailed it.
Yeadon has been proved wrong again and again. https://www.reuters.com/investigates...cines-skeptic/Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
I found this to be a pretty good, informative article.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55659820
Is it possible the variants are resisting, but the wrong people (guy) is telling us? I don't know who this dude is, but the article plays to your point.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzYeadon has been proved wrong again and again. https://www.reuters.com/investigates...cines-skeptic/Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
The evidence seems to suggest that actually that vaccines like the Pfizer, Moderna and Johsnon & Johnson vaccines are very effective against variants like the the UK and South African Variant.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeIs it possible the variants are resisting, but the wrong people (guy) is telling us? I don't know who this dude is, but the article plays to your point.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzYeadon has been proved wrong again and again. https://www.reuters.com/investigates...cines-skeptic/Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Efficacy and antibody levels are not the same thing though and anything that slows down the rate of transmission and decreasing the likelihood of dying or being hospitalised has to be a good thing.
I think to suggest that people saying they would not accept a weapon/that might help them fight a marauding horde about to come over your garden fence, even for $10 000 is not only daft, but frankly ridiculous just because it isn't a gun. It is still better than your bare knuckles. ;D Millions have now been vaccinated and the evidence for their effectiveness is growing day by day.
Tomorrow I will see my Grandkids for the first time since their mother, my Daughter, caught Covid. For her it was far worse than a fucking 'hang nail'. I cannot describe the feeling of helplessness in trying to reassure her over a phone that she was going to be alright when she was struggling to breathe. She has a compromised immune system but because she is under 40 she never got offered a vaccine that in all likelihood would have meant she never got so dangerously ill. I had to go around masked and googled, gloved up to deliver food etc and the look in her and the grandkids eyes nearly broke me. Thankfully she is much better now and steroids have helped her breathing etc but it was pretty scary for a bit.
I went to see her Uncle today for his birthday and after having just recovered from Cancer I am really happy he has had the Vaccine. We are gradually returning to normality over here in the UK. Pubs serving Beer outside etc and that is down to the vaccines having been proved to be working. I am hoping it continues so that I can invite more than 15 people to our Wedding and can go back to working ringside etc. It has been a long old war and I don't care if i only have a spade or a cricket bat, it is still better than bare knuckles against an enemy that doesn't follow the Marquis of Queensbury Rules. Fuck it throw a fucking gas bottle at the bastard if it slows him down ;D
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Originally Posted by BeanzThe evidence seems to suggest that actually that vaccines like the Pfizer, Moderna and Johsnon & Johnson vaccines are very effective against variants like the the UK and South African Variant.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTraeIs it possible the variants are resisting, but the wrong people (guy) is telling us? I don't know who this dude is, but the article plays to your point.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzYeadon has been proved wrong again and again. https://www.reuters.com/investigates...cines-skeptic/Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Efficacy and antibody levels are not the same thing though and anything that slows down the rate of transmission and decreasing the likelihood of dying or being hospitalised has to be a good thing.
I think to suggest that people saying they would not accept a weapon/that might help them fight a marauding horde about to come over your garden fence, even for $10 000 is not only daft, but frankly ridiculous just because it isn't a gun. It is still better than your bare knuckles. ;D Millions have now been vaccinated and the evidence for their effectiveness is growing day by day.
Tomorrow I will see my Grandkids for the first time since their mother, my Daughter, caught Covid. For her it was far worse than a fucking 'hang nail'. I cannot describe the feeling of helplessness in trying to reassure her over a phone that she was going to be alright when she was struggling to breathe. She has a compromised immune system but because she is under 40 she never got offered a vaccine that in all likelihood would have meant she never got so dangerously ill. I had to go around masked and googled, gloved up to deliver food etc and the look in her and the grandkids eyes nearly broke me. Thankfully she is much better now and steroids have helped her breathing etc but it was pretty scary for a bit.
I went to see her Uncle today for his birthday and after having just recovered from Cancer I am really happy he has had the Vaccine. We are gradually returning to normality over here in the UK. Pubs serving Beer outside etc and that is down to the vaccines having been proved to be working. I am hoping it continues so that I can invite more than 15 people to our Wedding and can go back to working ringside etc. It has been a long old war and I don't care if i only have a spade or a cricket bat, it is still better than bare knuckles against an enemy that doesn't follow the Marquis of Queensbury Rules. Fuck it throw a fucking gas bottle at the bastard if it slows him down ;D
Thanks! Stuff like Efficacy and antibody levels over my head!!
& I saw it 1st hand too- really hurt. Keep living well, didn't know you had grandkids. from the one zoom, I thought you looked like someone just heading into their early 30s, if that. I'm jealous!!
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Interesting. Well done Canada.
Fucking image hosts.
The first real world numbers in a control group of sixty five million people.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
https://twitter.com/MacaesBruno/stat...44150434979845
Brazil and India have handled this pandemic very badly. Their leaders need to be put in jail.
retards still believing this bullshit is real?
Amazing that you think this is all fake.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
amazing you can't prove your belief that covid is a virus spread through the air or of surfacesQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterAmazing that you think this is all fake.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Ahh... yes.
The world-renowned vaccine expert, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
A cursory search about Junior yields the following nuggets:
https://www.statnews.com/2017/09/22/...accine-safety/ Correcting Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s vaccine ‘facts’
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...cine-science1/ How Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Distorted Vaccine Science
Both articles date back to 2017... and one states that RFK Jr.'s "anti-vaccine credentials date back to 2005." So it seems he's been at this for a while.
Look up Junior on Wikepedia... and you'll learn that he is "an American anti-vaccine advocate, conspiracy theorist, author, and environmental lawyer."
Funny... nothing in there about being a virologist, epidemiologist, or even a general medical practitioner.
Nothing in there remotely resembling a background that would qualify Junior to be an expert on anything medical... much less the science of vaccines.
There IS however, the tidbit on being a conspiracy theorist. Peachy. :rolleyes:
So the resident forum misinformation gurus continue posting their crap... in case anyone's interested.
strange reaction towards someone asking for proof of your beliefQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
We are no longer living in a pandemic in the UK. Infection rates have been cut by 90%.
If people here believed unsubstantiated theories like TIC or were all afraid of needles like Brock we would not be where we are.
i could care less what robert has to say. you are right about nothing in there about being a virologist epidemiologist or even a general medical practitioner. nothing in there remotely resembling a background that would qualify him to be an expert on anything medical much less the science of vaccines. doesn't seem to stop bill gates eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Ahh... yes.
The world-renowned vaccine expert, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
A cursory search about Junior yields the following nuggets:
https://www.statnews.com/2017/09/22/...accine-safety/ Correcting Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s vaccine ‘facts’
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...cine-science1/ How Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Distorted Vaccine Science
Both articles date back to 2017... and one states that RFK Jr.'s "anti-vaccine credentials date back to 2005." So it seems he's been at this for a while.
Look up Junior on Wikepedia... and you'll learn that he is "an American anti-vaccine advocate, conspiracy theorist, author, and environmental lawyer."
Funny... nothing in there about being a virologist, epidemiologist, or even a general medical practitioner.
Nothing in there remotely resembling a background that would qualify Junior to be an expert on anything medical... much less the science of vaccines.
There IS however, the tidbit on being a conspiracy theorist. Peachy. :rolleyes:
So the resident forum misinformation gurus continue posting their crap... in case anyone's interested.
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Originally Posted by Beanz
I have to admit to being pretty damn afraid of needles, but will grit my teeth about it because the virus is more scary than my fear!
there was never a pandemic. i don't have a theory. you have a belief because you were told something & i have asked you to prove it. you haven'tQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
You do have a theory and it is an unsubstantiated one. It is for you nothing more than a childish belief because after over a year of a deluge of evidence from all corners of the globe, you are still insisting that you can demand everybody accept your ridiculous proposition, without you having to prove any more evidence than stamping your feet.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICthere was never a pandemic. i don't have a theory. you have a belief because you were told something & i have asked you to prove it. you haven'tQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Unlike gullible fools like yourself, most of us don't believe things simply because we were told something, we utilise everything we have learned in life up until this point, to evaluate the evidence, and base our actions on that evaluation. By now most of us have had first hand experience of close family members that corroborates that evidence very emphaticall and makes a complete mockery of you, the buffoon, and the dangerously incurious, complacent willingness to drink the Kool Aid attitude, or 'belief' you have bored us all with now for 12 months.
12 months in which the one sided beating your proposition has suffered would elicit some sympathy were it not for how callous and indifferent you seem to be to the ramifications of your actions, and those of anti-vaxx scenesters like Brock who never really could think for himself.
Fucking weak mate.
Get yourself a bib you are starting to dribble.
take your on task tactics somewhere else. this isn't a court case. you believe something is real & i am asking you to prove it & you are unable to do so. it's very simple spasticQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzYou do have a theory and it is an unsubstantiated one. It is for you nothing more than a childish belief because after over a year of a deluge of evidence from all corners of the globe, you are still insisting that you can demand everybody accept your ridiculous proposition, without you having to prove any more evidence than stamping your feet.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICthere was never a pandemic. i don't have a theory. you have a belief because you were told something & i have asked you to prove it. you haven'tQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Unlike gullible fools like yourself, most of us don't believe things simply because we were told something, we utilise everything we have learned in life up until this point, to evaluate the evidence, and base our actions on that evaluation. By now most of us have had first hand experience of close family members that corroborates that evidence very emphaticall and makes a complete mockery of you, the buffoon, and the dangerously incurious, complacent willingness to drink the Kool Aid attitude, or 'belief' you have bored us all with now for 12 months.
12 months in which the one sided beating your proposition has suffered would elicit some sympathy were it not for how callous and indifferent you seem to be to the ramifications of your actions, and those of anti-vaxx scenesters like Brock who never really could think for himself.
Fucking weak mate.
Get yourself a bib you are starting to dribble.
People with a compromised immune system have gotten it. Yet today I have read the CDC and Johns Hopkins University medical center both announced that people with compromised immune systems will not be benefiting from the vaccines at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICtake your on task tactics somewhere else. this isn't a court case. you believe something is real & i am asking you to prove it & you are unable to do so. it's very simple spasticQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzYou do have a theory and it is an unsubstantiated one. It is for you nothing more than a childish belief because after over a year of a deluge of evidence from all corners of the globe, you are still insisting that you can demand everybody accept your ridiculous proposition, without you having to prove any more evidence than stamping your feet.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICthere was never a pandemic. i don't have a theory. you have a belief because you were told something & i have asked you to prove it. you haven'tQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Unlike gullible fools like yourself, most of us don't believe things simply because we were told something, we utilise everything we have learned in life up until this point, to evaluate the evidence, and base our actions on that evaluation. By now most of us have had first hand experience of close family members that corroborates that evidence very emphaticall and makes a complete mockery of you, the buffoon, and the dangerously incurious, complacent willingness to drink the Kool Aid attitude, or 'belief' you have bored us all with now for 12 months.
12 months in which the one sided beating your proposition has suffered would elicit some sympathy were it not for how callous and indifferent you seem to be to the ramifications of your actions, and those of anti-vaxx scenesters like Brock who never really could think for himself.
Fucking weak mate.
Get yourself a bib you are starting to dribble.
I don't enjoy saying it but and I hope it isn't true but:
Immunocompromised Folks May Not Produce COVID Antibodies, Even With A vaccine
"However, for the approximately 4.3% of the adult population who are immunocompromised, they can still be infected with COVID-19 even after vaccination. They can’t risk easing up on their precautions. For these vulnerable individuals, the COVID vaccine won’t protect them — and their bodies do not even produce COVID antibodies in many cases — even after vaccination. Instead, they rely on all the people around them who can be protected by the vaccine to actually get the vaccine."
Well now that explains the pressure tactics and the shaming tactics being used around the world to push Mass vaccinations.
Loads of medical experts on this forum.:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Why not post the link that you cherry picked and distorted this quote from? Because you distorted it in such an extreme way that you inverted it's meaning and tried to make it look like some kind of justification for not getting vaccinated yourself. All so that you could ingratiate yourself with TIC, reinforcing his idiotic ideas.
What a traitorous bastard you are. The same TIC who mercilessly ripped the piss out of Dia Bando who has had to bury and cremate so many unfortunate victims in a pandemic you are now treating like it was never even real.
The last sentence that you neglected to quote in the post you used says it all
"Get vaccinated — if not for yourself (although, you really should do it for yourself), then for everyone else. You are not the only person on this planet — and if you really want to go back to your old life, then act like it."
Here is your quotes source - https://www.scarymommy.com/covid-vac..._campaign=feed
The fact that a small percentage of the population will not get as much protection from vaccination as others is not a reason not to have that shot yourself. Shaming or pressuring people? That is you and TIC. YOU called me and by extension everyone else on the forum who had been vaccinated ( including the Zoom members you pissed on by doing so) "A schill for Big Pharma". Here you are telling blatant lies insisting that people with compromised immune systems will not be benefiting at all. The article does not say that and the science and evidence does not support that either. More than half do produce sizeable antibody protection and actually protection is also about t cells and other things not just antibodies. That protection means that many of those with immune system complications who do get Covid 19 after a vaccination are still much less likely to get really ill and die.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/cor...250791739.html
I got a strange tale to tell. Last week I brought someone to a well known rehab in my state. It’s a beautiful place that goes back to the days of bill Wilson and dr Bob. I got a call a few days later. One fully vaccinated staff member was covid positive and they had and outbreak it spread to 15 residents. I do not know the status of the 15 residents. I do not know if they were all vaccinated. I didn’t go in the day I was there but I still had to get tested (waiting for results) and I’m fully vaccinated. I think the cdc went to the place to get samples to see if there is a funky variant or something. Now we knew breakthrough cases are possible with vaccinated people, that info was available during the studies of these vaccines. If these 15 people did happen to be vaccinated, and I have no information stating that is the case, that will be fucked up. I may never find out the whole story but it really left me thinking
So true, so true, THe variants are breaking thru and these vaccines have 6-9 months TOPS against the virus in its original form. 6-9 months TOPS, and it wears off. Then you will need a 3rd, then a 4th then a 5th, gene therapy untested experimental shit, I will never do it, not for $50,000 USD and a scone. Immune systems will never react in the natural way again. Non-specific, low-affinity antibodies will be dominated by the phony specific antibodies from the mRNA genetic command that hijacked people's cells to produce a SPECIFIC version of covid19. YOu cant get it back after that. The natural immune system had it handled and now it has been fucked up forever. AND unable to respond to variants in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
C'mon Primo.
It's not only Robert F. Kennedy Jr. they're quoting.
They're also getting valuable, technical vaccine information from other renowned sources, such as Novak Djokovic and Elle Macpherson.
whereas some get it from CNN and Big Pharma, you know, the REAL trustworthy sources ;) Be careful dont put your lil hand in the shark tank like that again ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
C'mon Primo.
It's not only Robert F. Kennedy Jr. they're quoting.
They're also getting valuable, technical vaccine information from other renowned sources, such as Novak Djokovic and Elle Macpherson.
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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellwhereas some get it from CNN and Big Pharma, you know, the REAL trustworthy sources ;) Be careful dont put your lil hand in the shark tank like that again ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
C'mon Primo.
It's not only Robert F. Kennedy Jr. they're quoting.
They're also getting valuable, technical vaccine information from other renowned sources, such as Novak Djokovic and Elle Macpherson.
In the game of "information poker", you just lost your shirt.
;d;d;dQuote:
Originally Posted by titofanQuote:
Originally Posted by primo carnera
c'mon primo.
It's not only robert f. Kennedy jr. They're quoting.
They're also getting valuable, technical vaccine information from other renowned sources, such as novak djokovic and elle macpherson.
Fair play Brock, if you knew as much as you think you know, you would be worth an absolute fortune! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellSo true, so true, THe variants are breaking thru and these vaccines have 6-9 months TOPS against the virus in its original form. 6-9 months TOPS, and it wears off. Then you will need a 3rd, then a 4th then a 5th, gene therapy untested experimental shit, I will never do it, not for $50,000 USD and a scone. Immune systems will never react in the natural way again. Non-specific, low-affinity antibodies will be dominated by the phony specific antibodies from the mRNA genetic command that hijacked people's cells to produce a SPECIFIC version of covid19. YOu cant get it back after that. The natural immune system had it handled and now it has been fucked up forever. AND unable to respond to variants in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellSo true, so true, THe variants are breaking thru and these vaccines have 6-9 months TOPS against the virus in its original form. 6-9 months TOPS, and it wears off. Then you will need a 3rd, then a 4th then a 5th, gene therapy untested experimental shit, I will never do it, not for $50,000 USD and a scone. Immune systems will never react in the natural way again. Non-specific, low-affinity antibodies will be dominated by the phony specific antibodies from the mRNA genetic command that hijacked people's cells to produce a SPECIFIC version of covid19. YOu cant get it back after that. The natural immune system had it handled and now it has been fucked up forever. AND unable to respond to variants in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by walrus
This is absolute garbage.
Nobody knows how long the antibodies will last in a large population because there's a real time experiment going on now. They're currently lasting since the first vaccinated people were vaccinated. They'll keep us updated on progress.
However the vaccines also prime your t cells to deal with the virus and your t cells retain memory of viruses for years, decades in most cases. So even if the antibody levels drop you still have protection. The vaccines are going to need yearly boosters to deal with variants and it's going to be like the flu jab where people have to get injected every year. So what? It means a return to normal life for everybody. For the people who are too thick/nuts to work this out the virus is going to help humanity by thinning this particular herd out and boosting humanity's average IQ. Darwinism in action.