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Re: Calzaghe talks! Tarver, Kessler, Wright, Taylor, & more...it makes sense...
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Originally Posted by Starr
Who has Kessler fought? That wasn't past his prime AND was a name.
Manny Siaca (WBA Champ)
Anthony Mundine ( former WBA Champ)
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Re: Calzaghe talks! Tarver, Kessler, Wright, Taylor, & more...it makes sense...
Siaca lost to Byron Mitchell twice and was nothing special, was handed a gift against Mundine which is how he got the title that Kessler took from him and then his first title defense is against the guy his last opponent just beat ;)
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Re: Calzaghe talks! Tarver, Kessler, Wright, Taylor, & more...it makes sense...
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Originally Posted by Starr
Who has Kessler fought? That wasn't past his prime AND was a name.
And who has Lacy fought unless Calzaghe,nobody only fighter past their prime
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Re: Calzaghe talks! Tarver, Kessler, Wright, Taylor, & more...it makes sense...
When did I mention Lacy? I told everyone to watch Lacy's fight with Donnel Wiggins and Rubin Williams before saying Lacy would beat Joe.
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Re: Calzaghe talks! Tarver, Kessler, Wright, Taylor, & more...it makes sense...
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
Calzaghe targets Tarver!
May 3, 2006
Although Joe Calzaghe's opponent for his upcoming title defense on July 8 has yet to be announced, the "Pride of Wales" wastes no time in declaring just who he wants to face in the ring later this year. "Antonio Tarver is my main objective," said the WBO and IBF Super Middleweight Champion. "I'd also love to fight the winner of Winky Wright and Jermain Taylor. Those would be two massive opportunities out there for me, but obviously, they're all fighting in June so we're looking at the autumn as a possibility."
Riding the peak of his powers at age 33, Calzaghe has no concerns about going up in weight to face hard punching light heavyweights like Tarver, who must first get past Bernard Hopkins next month. "Tarver got himself on the pound for pound list when he's lost three fights," exclaimed the undefeated Welshman. "He hasn't fought any great fighters and as far as I'm concerned, he's overrated. He's beaten an old man in Roy Jones, who Tarver wouldn't have touched five years ago, struggled against another old man, Glen Johnson, in two fights and as far as I'm concerned, I'll knock him out. I don't really rate Tarver and I think that he's a boring fighter to watch."
With the ability to continue as a super middle or campaign at light heavyweight, Calzaghe finds himself in a unique and potentially lucrative position. "When Markus Beyer first won the WBC title from Richie Woodhall in 1999, we tried to make a fight with him and it was impossible," recalled the sharp southpaw. "It may be easier to make now, Beyer's getting older and probably looking for a big payday, but there's bigger fish out there.
"Mikkel Kessler is a good fighter, he's undefeated and probably a better fighter than Beyer but then again, does Kessler mean that much outside of Denmark? These are the things that have to be looked at. Obviously, come November, if the fights can't be made with Tarver or one of the top middleweights, then maybe we'll go that route."
Such choices are the spoils of war for Calzaghe, currently the longest reigning world champion at over eight years, but the party will come crashing down if he doesn't prove victorious at Millennium Stadium in Cardiff on July 8. "To be honest, I could stay at super middle the rest of my career if I wanted to but as I always said, I'd love to be a two weight world champion," he said. "I'm finally getting real recognition and the fight in Cardiff this July is going to be a great occasion."
Joe knows how to talk a lot of crap... but he just doesn't back it. Tarver is a great boxer and a great champion. Why? Because he does something you don't mister Calzaghie... Fight nothing but the best. He told the ABC's to stick it where to sun don't shine (as did Glenn Johnson) and that's why it doesn't matter if he holds a single belt, everyone knows he's the champ
Untill you BEAT Kessler , I don't think you can talk that much crap about him. He is one of the best SMW in the world
Bottom line... We all know Joe isn't going to fight anyone or step foot on American or Denmark soil. He's going to ride his victory over Lacy untill the day he retires. Yes, good job Joe. Great fight. Want to be a pound for pound champ? You're going to have to step up a few more times. Hint... Peter Manfredo Jr and Allen Green isn't a step up
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Re: Calzaghe talks! Tarver, Kessler, Wright, Taylor, & more...it makes sense...
if it isnt lacy, its calzaghe! ::**
if kessler is so good, then why doesnt he take a huge pay cut and go over to wales and just beat calzaghe?? if he's so good he'll win, joe will get a payday and kessler can then go on and make some good money off of beating calzaghe......why doesnt he just do that....
calzaghe needs a fight....sounds simple really....i dont think kessler wants any of that...
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Re: Calzaghe talks! Tarver, Kessler, Wright, Taylor, & more...it makes sense...
Tarver was dropped and went life and death with an old Reggie Johnson and was dropped and beaten up by Eric Harding in their first fight. He also appears to dislike a fast-paced fight. I think Calzaghe handles him and maybe even stops him.
Mundine Siaca wasn't a gift. Mundine is much more talented than Siaca but he was dropped early and fought with no urgency for the rest of the fight. The fight wasn't uncompetitive and I thought it possible that Mundine would get a home town decision.
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Re: Calzaghe talks! Tarver, Kessler, Wright, Taylor, & more...it makes sense...
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Originally Posted by miles
if it isnt lacy, its calzaghe! ::**
if kessler is so good, then why doesnt he take a huge pay cut and go over to wales and just beat calzaghe?? if he's so good he'll win, joe will get a payday and kessler can then go on and make some good money off of beating calzaghe......why doesnt he just do that....
calzaghe needs a fight....sounds simple really....i dont think kessler wants any of that...
You dont think kessler wants any of that
Read here
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0700s...name_page.html
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Re: Calzaghe talks! Tarver, Kessler, Wright, Taylor, & more...it makes sense...
to be fair we've heard nothing about that since....nothing from the kessler camp in response to that i also presume...
we've no idea what was discussed....im sure kessler would have wanted his slice of the cake too...
not quite the strategy i suggested....
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Re: Calzaghe talks! Tarver, Kessler, Wright, Taylor, & more...it makes sense...
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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kessler isn't stronger than lacy and that would be another easy fight for joe that wouldnt make hm the dollar in the states. i would love to see him fight tarver. all that bollocks tarver said about his homeboy really pissed me off. joe would plough through him.
Lacy are just a handpicked and untested opponent for Calzaghe,only thing Calzaghe did was he beat a slow and onedimensional Lacy
Handpicked opponent, hahahahaha you make me laugh everytime you post!!!
Yes you usually handpick opponents who are the favourites to win the fight!!!
Listen mate stop your hating on Lacy, he was a game up and coming fighter who is respected and was most peoples pick to win the fight, your boy Kessler has nothing to offer Joe, who knows him for starters?? Secondly who has he beat?? Dont start coming up with thr Rings number 1 and number 2 rubbish you usually rant about, Kessler can have his shot when he makes some noise like Lacy who was making a hell of alot of noise prior to the Calzaghe fight.
Also before you and your gang say Calzaghe is ducking him, why would he call out Winky Taylor and Tarver??? Tarver is a much bigger man than Kessler also all these guys have been in with the best something Kessler has never done.
Lacy was favourites to win the fight against Calzaghe you make me laugh,only people who has Lacy to win was US media and US boxing-fans not realistic boxing-fans who was able to see Lacy just was a overrated and overprotect slow Turtle on steroids
I make you laugh?? You really need to get your fights right Kessler nuthugger dont you before i make you laugh, firstly the bookmakers all over the world had Lacy as the favourite not the US Media or US boxing fan, the bookmakers!!!
Do you know how the bookmmakers come about there prices??? Through the publics $$$$$$$, so generally not just people from the US had there money down for Lacy hence he was the odds on favourite to win the fight, so please come back when you actully talk some sense, or when you were referring to people who new something about boxing did you mean you and your Danish natives whos boxing knowlegde goes about as far as the Danish border!!
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Jangeorg, thanks for the sad click by the way, why dont you respond and put up a decent argument, to my last post?? No you would rather give me a little sad click!!!
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Re: Calzaghe talks! Tarver, Kessler, Wright, Taylor, & more...it makes sense...
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Originally Posted by miles
to be fair we've heard nothing about that since....nothing from the kessler camp in response to that i also presume...
we've no idea what was discussed....im sure kessler would have wanted his slice of the cake too...
not quite the strategy i suggested....
Whats the point of Kessler responding to his own challenge????
Joe as usual just ignored it.
Kessler can't just sit arround waiting for the rest of his career - hoping that calzaghe will suddently change his mind and look Kessler's way. So for now Kessler has just finalized a deal with Tsypko for a june fight.
It's all in Joe's hands. If he want's it he can have it. But for whatever reason Kessler and the WBA-belt is very low on his wishlist.
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Re: Calzaghe talks! Tarver, Kessler, Wright, Taylor, & more...it makes sense...
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Originally Posted by dumdane
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Originally Posted by miles
to be fair we've heard nothing about that since....nothing from the kessler camp in response to that i also presume...
we've no idea what was discussed....im sure kessler would have wanted his slice of the cake too...
not quite the strategy i suggested....
Whats the point of Kessler responding to his own challenge????
Joe as usual just ignored it.
Kessler can't just sit arround waiting for the rest of his career - hoping that calzaghe will suddently change his mind and look Kessler's way. So for now Kessler has just finalized a deal with Tsypko for a june fight.
It's all in Joe's hands. If he want's it he can have it. But for whatever reason Kessler and the WBA-belt is very low on his wishlist.
im sure joe didnt just ignore the kessler camps proposal, we dont know the details....kessler has demands too. he isnt going to fight calzaghe for anything less than he thinks he's worth....
like i say we dont know any of the details...
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Re: Calzaghe talks! Tarver, Kessler, Wright, Taylor, & more...it makes sense...
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
Joe knows how to talk a lot of crap... but he just doesn't back it. Tarver is a great boxer and a great champion. Why? Because he does something you don't mister Calzaghie... Fight nothing but the best. He told the ABC's to stick it where to sun don't shine (as did Glenn Johnson) and that's why it doesn't matter if he holds a single belt, everyone knows he's the champ
Undefeated, unified and *ahem* longest reigning champ in boxing - I see where you're coming from though, all Calzaghe's done is beat every man in front of him and shown us one of the greatest boxing classes in recent history. I mean, if this is all he's got to give, Joe is a loser and Kessler is clearly the man.
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Untill you BEAT Kessler , I don't think you can talk that much crap about him. He is one of the best SMW in the world
You're right, Kessler is one of the best SMW in the world, and because he's undefeated against world class opponents such as Anthony Mundine, we should completely disregard the champs similarly undefeated record. After all, surely his record must be padded, noone is good as Kessler and come close to HIS acheivements. Kesller is the man!
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
Bottom line... We all know Joe isn't going to fight anyone or step foot on American or Denmark soil. He's going to ride his victory over Lacy untill the day he retires. Yes, good job Joe. Great fight. Want to be a pound for pound champ? You're going to have to step up a few more times. Hint... Peter Manfredo Jr and Allen Green isn't a step up
Yeah For christs sake Joe, all this harping on about being the longest reigining champ, the first unified Super middleweight champ in years and your undefeated record is getting boring. If you really are the best, lets see you take some real fights, go back in time and face Sugar Ray Robinson, maybe then you can fight Kessler, because Kessler wouldve won. You know why??
[b]KESSLER IS THE MAN!!!
;D
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Re: Calzaghe talks! Tarver, Kessler, Wright, Taylor, & more...it makes sense...
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by dumdane
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Originally Posted by miles
to be fair we've heard nothing about that since....nothing from the kessler camp in response to that i also presume...
we've no idea what was discussed....im sure kessler would have wanted his slice of the cake too...
not quite the strategy i suggested....
Whats the point of Kessler responding to his own challenge????
Joe as usual just ignored it.
Kessler can't just sit arround waiting for the rest of his career - hoping that calzaghe will suddently change his mind and look Kessler's way. So for now Kessler has just finalized a deal with Tsypko for a june fight.
It's all in Joe's hands. If he want's it he can have it. But for whatever reason Kessler and the WBA-belt is very low on his wishlist.
im sure joe didnt just ignore the kessler camps proposal, we dont know the details....kessler has demands too. he isnt going to fight calzaghe for anything less than he thinks he's worth....
like i say we dont know any of the details...
No we don't know the details, but here is what Calzaghe said about Kessler just the other day:
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"Mikkel Kessler is a good fighter, he's undefeated and probably a better fighter than Beyer but then again, does Kessler mean that much outside of Denmark? These are the things that have to be looked at. Obviously, come November, if the fights can't be made with Tarver or one of the top middleweights, then maybe we'll go that route."
In other words... IF everything else fails or IF hell freezes over... Calzaghe MAY have to look at Kessler as an option. For now - no way.