Re: Q & A with Antonio Margarito (he has a new nickname for floyd)
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Margarito says "Beating Oscar does nothing for your career anymore. He's past his prime". Yet I bet you his chumpass would sign to fight him in a heart beat. What a joke this clown is.
we must remember he said this before the mayorga fight....many of us were questioning how much oscar really had left in him. a while back i said myself i would judge him off his performance against mayorga...im sure margarito has done likewise...
oscar was better than most of us thought he would be...
Come on. Even if Oscar would of looked bad. Margarito would still sign to fight him.
i wasnt disagreeing with that aspect...i was just saying we shouldnt critisise him for presuming oscar might have been way beyond his prime....its an assumption many had made...
im sure margarito would face him if offered the chance...it would be an opportunity to finally get more recognition beyond the boxing fraternity...
I'm pretty sure alot of boxers felt the same way as Margarito. They just weren't stupid enough to open there mouths.
i dont understand why he is stupid for saying something many of us had suspected....we all make errors of judgement. oscar looked good against mayorga. very true. but at the end of the day, how much did mayorga himself have left in the tank. at the age of 33, relative inactivity and a beating off trinidad, it seems with hindsight some of us thought mayorga had a little more in him than he did. its all relative and there are always variables that raise uncertainty. only the result can answer any questions.
oscar fought a good fight, but lets not get overboard on all this. mayorga turned out to be very limited. margarito is welcome to his opinion as much as anybody...
Because if they ever fought and Margarito for some miracle was to win. The win would be diminish by his own words.
Re: Q & A with Antonio Margarito (he has a new nickname for floyd)
he made the comment pre mayorga as ive stated before, i dont think it cheapens his words....
oscar was better than most people expected, better than margarito expected as well, i presume...
Re: Q & A with Antonio Margarito (he has a new nickname for floyd)
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Originally Posted by miles
he made the comment pre mayorga as ive stated before, i dont think it cheapens his words....
oscar was better than most people expected, better than margarito expected as well, i presume...
You might be right. I still think he was better off keeping his mouth closed
Re: Q & A with Antonio Margarito (he has a new nickname for floyd)
I use to really like margarito but right now he is talkin out his a$%. IMO right now margarito is like the best of the nobodies. I say this because the truth is he has fought no one. His entire record is loaded with B-,C and even D level fighters. The best fighter he has fought is Daniel Santos. DANIEL SANTOS and he lost twice. What gives margarito fans so much confidence? It can't be what hes done in the past. Oh it must be the fact that PBF is small. Which brings up another point, I've never seen a natural junior middle weight be so hungry to fight a natural lightweight. Hes trying to call out pbfs manhood by calling him gayweather but hes thirsty to fight a guy who his is 2-3 weightclasses bigger than. What does that say about him? What he needs to do is fight someone worth mentioning,beat them and then he can start callin out the best.All that aside I think hes too slow for pbf and would lose by UD if they fought. The only thing that gives any welter a chance against pbf is there size. But being big and strong don't mean anything if you can't put it on the target.
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Beating ODH up in sparring is TOTALLY different than a real fight....Margarito is gonna get fucked up by someone soon...he's got something wrong with his style, it's long in a bad way...I mean he doesn't get his arms back on defense quick at all.
Hatton would eat him alive (no joke intended)
Gatti he may beat
Oscar would pick him apart
Floyd would make him look silly
Zab would get beat by him
Mayorga maybe beats him
Mosley DEFINANTLY beats him
Re: Q & A with Antonio Margarito (he has a new nickname for floyd)
Hey.. at least Margarito predicted Oscar by KO, he got that right where most people didn't. I though Oscar would have to box alot more and get the decision. Still I dunno where he gets off talking bad about Oscar when the guy has never in his life fought anyone of the calibre of any OPPONENT Oscar has fought in the last... 10 years??? And he still lost to Santos, who isn't even very good and doesn't punch that hard.. Just shows the reality that he has fought nobody.. He thinks Santos style was very hard to adjust too, and he can really punch hard.. DLH would destroy him, and how the hell would he figure out Mayweather? His punches are about as wide as Mayorgas.
Re: Q & A with Antonio Margarito (he has a new nickname for floyd)
i was loving the questions in that interview. how much were they bumming margarito? not biased questions at all.
Re: Q & A with Antonio Margarito (he has a new nickname for floyd)
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I use to really like margarito but right now he is talkin out his a$%. IMO right now margarito is like the best of the nobodies. I say this because the truth is he has fought no one. His entire record is loaded with B-,C and even D level fighters. The best fighter he has fought is Daniel Santos. DANIEL SANTOS and he lost twice. What gives margarito fans so much confidence? It can't be what hes done in the past. Oh it must be the fact that PBF is small. Which brings up another point, I've never seen a natural junior middle weight be so hungry to fight a natural lightweight. Hes trying to call out pbfs manhood by calling him gayweather but hes thirsty to fight a guy who his is 2-3 weightclasses bigger than. What does that say about him? What he needs to do is fight someone worth mentioning,beat them and then he can start callin out the best.All that aside I think hes too slow for pbf and would lose by UD if they fought. The only thing that gives any welter a chance against pbf is there size. But being big and strong don't mean anything if you can't put it on the target.
He's beaten whoever has been put in front of him and yeah,Santos is not great but firstly that fight should have been scored for Tony and second styles make fights and their styles just clashed too much.7 headbutts anyone? Also,that's really lame thinking because as soon as Floyd made his way to 147 he was a legitimate target. Oh so what does it say about Hopkins beating Oscar? Where did Oscar start off? Also,styles makes fights,I reiterate because who would have thought out of all Floyd's opponents,Castillo would have caused him problems?
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Originally Posted by miles
he made the comment pre mayorga as ive stated before, i dont think it cheapens his words....
oscar was better than most people expected, better than margarito expected as well, i presume...
You might be right. I still think he was better off keeping his mouth closed
He was talking before the fight took place,like Miles said and MANY people made that mistake off writing off Oscar...Margarito included but let's not forget he predicted Oscar to win
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Beating ODH up in sparring is TOTALLY different than a real fight....Margarito is gonna get fucked up by someone soon...he's got something wrong with his style, it's long in a bad way...I mean he doesn't get his arms back on defense quick at all.
Hatton would eat him alive (no joke intended)
Gatti he may beat
Oscar would pick him apart
Floyd would make him look silly
Zab would get beat by him
Mayorga maybe beats him
Mosley DEFINANTLY beats him
Hatton would not eat him alive at all....it would be a close fight UNLESS Hatton got ripped to shreds by Margarito's punches.
There is no may,Gatti would be right there in front of Tony and would get crushed.
Floyd may make him look silly....I doubt it though.....
dam right on the Zab
I think he beats Mayorga,too much pressure
if Mosley DEFINITELY beats him,why did he state OPENLY and there were numerous links posted that he sais he was not ready for Tony and which is why he changed his mind and stayed at 154...to fight Vargas a second time because Tony was the only available opponent.Not saying Margarito would win but you're more confident than Mosley ::** ::** ::**
P4PKING,his punches arent as wide as Myorgas,he's stronger,throws more and he can shorten and they come from weird angles.He also has a decent jab and can work the body.....
Anyone else........ O0
Re: Q & A with Antonio Margarito (he has a new nickname for floyd)
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Antonio Margarito Says:
Mayweather-I'll knock him out Arturo Gatti-I'll Retire him
Ricky Hatton -I'll knock him out Oscar De La Hoya- I'll Retire him
Shane Mosley-I'll knock him out
good to see he knows better then to say he could beat judah, i support this man :thumb:
he's a loyal fan alright but cmon ur man is damaged goods
if judah is damaged goods for an illegitimate TKO loss to tszyu, a robbery in vegas, a decision loss he should have been given against baldozar, and a loss in a fight where his opponents trainer was aloowed to choke him for over a minute between rounds...
then margarito is a fuckn joke ;)
Apparently you have been around here much longer then I have but what are you, just a troll trying to stir up sh*t all the time and get people to argue with you about one the dumbest fighters around (JUDAH). All those fights you just listed were legit losses for your super boy, you call Margarito a f**king joke but that joke would be all over Judah and it would end quickly.
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Margarito ain't all that, I mean he's fooling himself at 147 because you damn well know he's a 154 pounder but he couldn't take Daniel Santos' power so he had to move down!
Which means guys like Oscar, Mayorga, Mosley, and Vargas could beat him! Because they have tasted harder punches and survived.
Floyd is too quick for those LOOOOOONG punches he throws and I swear they just get longer and longer.
Hatton would get on the inside nullify the height advantage and work the body end of story!
Re: Q & A with Antonio Margarito (he has a new nickname for floyd)
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I use to really like margarito but right now he is talkin out his a$%. IMO right now margarito is like the best of the nobodies. I say this because the truth is he has fought no one. His entire record is loaded with B-,C and even D level fighters. The best fighter he has fought is Daniel Santos. DANIEL SANTOS and he lost twice. What gives margarito fans so much confidence? It can't be what hes done in the past. Oh it must be the fact that PBF is small. Which brings up another point, I've never seen a natural junior middle weight be so hungry to fight a natural lightweight. Hes trying to call out pbfs manhood by calling him gayweather but hes thirsty to fight a guy who his is 2-3 weightclasses bigger than. What does that say about him? What he needs to do is fight someone worth mentioning,beat them and then he can start callin out the best.All that aside I think hes too slow for pbf and would lose by UD if they fought. The only thing that gives any welter a chance against pbf is there size. But being big and strong don't mean anything if you can't put it on the target.
He's beaten whoever has been put in front of him and yeah,Santos is not great but firstly that fight should have been scored for Tony and second styles make fights and their styles just clashed too much.7 headbutts anyone? Also,that's really lame thinking because as soon as Floyd made his way to 147 he was a legitimate target.
Oh so what does it say about Hopkins beating Oscar? Where did Oscar start off? Also,styles makes fights,I reiterate because who would have thought out of all Floyd's opponents,Castillo would have caused him problems?
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Originally Posted by miles
he made the comment pre mayorga as ive stated before, i dont think it cheapens his words....
oscar was better than most people expected, better than margarito expected as well, i presume...
You might be right. I still think he was better off keeping his mouth closed
He was talking before the fight took place,like Miles said and MANY people made that mistake off writing off Oscar...Margarito included but let's not forget he predicted Oscar to win
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Beating ODH up in sparring is TOTALLY different than a real fight....Margarito is gonna get fucked up by someone soon...he's got something wrong with his style, it's long in a bad way...I mean he doesn't get his arms back on defense quick at all.
Hatton would eat him alive (no joke intended)
Gatti he may beat
Oscar would pick him apart
Floyd would make him look silly
Zab would get beat by him
Mayorga maybe beats him
Mosley DEFINANTLY beats him
Hatton would not eat him alive at all....it would be a close fight UNLESS Hatton got ripped to shreds by Margarito's punches.
There is no may,Gatti would be right there in front of Tony and would get crushed.
Floyd may make him look silly....I doubt it though.....
dam right on the Zab
I think he beats Mayorga,too much pressure
if Mosley DEFINITELY beats him,why did he state OPENLY and there were numerous links posted that he sais he was not ready for Tony and which is why he changed his mind and stayed at 154...to fight Vargas a second time because Tony was the only available opponent.Not saying Margarito would win but you're more confident than Mosley ::** ::** ::**
P4PKING,his punches arent as wide as Myorgas,he's stronger,throws more and he can shorten and they come from weird angles.He also has a decent jab and can work the body.....
Anyone else........ O0
The only difference is hopkins wasn't begging to fight Oscar. He wasn't going around talking mess about him either. And as far as styles make fights yes you are right certain styles clash but that is never really a strong excuse because a good-great fighter can overcome theses things and if he can't then he must not be as good-great as he or his fans thought.If he can't get past that style are his chances any higher that he could get past mayweathers. I don't think so. If your a fan thats cool,if you got faith in him thats cool too but thats all you can have is faith and hope because nothing in his past shows that he can beat mayweather and thats my point.
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this is as delusional as judah.....knock out mosely? yeah right....there's is slim chance he could stalk mayweather..but it won't be a knockout it be because he like to taste check left hooks and straight rights...
this guys is fwucking stupid
Re: Q & A with Antonio Margarito (he has a new nickname for floyd)
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I use to really like margarito but right now he is talkin out his a$%. IMO right now margarito is like the best of the nobodies. I say this because the truth is he has fought no one. His entire record is loaded with B-,C and even D level fighters. The best fighter he has fought is Daniel Santos. DANIEL SANTOS and he lost twice. What gives margarito fans so much confidence? It can't be what hes done in the past. Oh it must be the fact that PBF is small. Which brings up another point, I've never seen a natural junior middle weight be so hungry to fight a natural lightweight. Hes trying to call out pbfs manhood by calling him gayweather but hes thirsty to fight a guy who his is 2-3 weightclasses bigger than. What does that say about him? What he needs to do is fight someone worth mentioning,beat them and then he can start callin out the best.All that aside I think hes too slow for pbf and would lose by UD if they fought. The only thing that gives any welter a chance against pbf is there size. But being big and strong don't mean anything if you can't put it on the target.
He's beaten whoever has been put in front of him and yeah,Santos is not great but firstly that fight should have been scored for Tony and second styles make fights and their styles just clashed too much.7 headbutts anyone? Also,that's really lame thinking because as soon as Floyd made his way to 147 he was a legitimate target.
Oh so what does it say about Hopkins beating Oscar? Where did Oscar start off? Also,styles makes fights,I reiterate because who would have thought out of all Floyd's opponents,Castillo would have caused him problems?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by miles
he made the comment pre mayorga as ive stated before, i dont think it cheapens his words....
oscar was better than most people expected, better than margarito expected as well, i presume...
You might be right. I still think he was better off keeping his mouth closed
He was talking before the fight took place,like Miles said and MANY people made that mistake off writing off Oscar...Margarito included but let's not forget he predicted Oscar to win
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Beating ODH up in sparring is TOTALLY different than a real fight....Margarito is gonna get fucked up by someone soon...he's got something wrong with his style, it's long in a bad way...I mean he doesn't get his arms back on defense quick at all.
Hatton would eat him alive (no joke intended)
Gatti he may beat
Oscar would pick him apart
Floyd would make him look silly
Zab would get beat by him
Mayorga maybe beats him
Mosley DEFINANTLY beats him
Hatton would not eat him alive at all....it would be a close fight UNLESS Hatton got ripped to shreds by Margarito's punches.
There is no may,Gatti would be right there in front of Tony and would get crushed.
Floyd may make him look silly....I doubt it though.....
dam right on the Zab
I think he beats Mayorga,too much pressure
if Mosley DEFINITELY beats him,why did he state OPENLY and there were numerous links posted that he sais he was not ready for Tony and which is why he changed his mind and stayed at 154...to fight Vargas a second time because Tony was the only available opponent.Not saying Margarito would win but you're more confident than Mosley ::** ::** ::**
P4PKING,his punches arent as wide as Myorgas,he's stronger,throws more and he can shorten and they come from weird angles.He also has a decent jab and can work the body.....
Anyone else........ O0
The only difference is hopkins wasn't begging to fight Oscar. He wasn't going around talking mess about him either. And as far as styles make fights yes you are right certain styles clash but that is never really a strong excuse because a good-great fighter can overcome theses things and if he can't then he must not be as good-great as he or his fans thought.If he can't get past that style are his chances any higher that he could get past mayweathers. I don't think so. If your a fan thats cool,if you got faith in him thats cool too but thats all you can have is faith and hope because nothing in his past shows that he can beat mayweather and thats my point.
Margarito is not "begging",he just wants to fight someone he thinks he can beat. I'm a fan but I know the odds will be stacked against him. What do you mean if he can't get past that stlye? Are you trying to make an analogy between Santos style and Mayweathers??!?!That's not a very good point.....and nothing in Winky's past showed he could beat Tito,Mosley,nothing in Pacman's past showed he could beat MAB etc. bASICALLY,I just want Tony to be given a shot,that is all. If he fails,I'll hold up my hands and admit it like a man,no biggie but I expect him to put in a good show at least!
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Margarito ain't all that, I mean he's fooling himself at 147 because you damn well know he's a 154 pounder but he couldn't take Daniel Santos' power so he had to move down!
Which means guys like Oscar, Mayorga, Mosley, and Vargas could beat him! Because they have tasted harder punches and survived.
Floyd is too quick for those LOOOOOONG punches he throws and I swear they just get longer and longer.
Hatton would get on the inside nullify the height advantage and work the body end of story!
Have you seen what Margarito did to 6 heads Lewis when he tried to smother Margarito?Have you seen what happened to the 170 pound Santos on the ropes in that fight?He went down from a body shot too which was not counted for some reason! He couldn't take Santos power?I'm sorry...Santos shook him twice,did Margarito go down though?Was he knocked out?? Yes he throws long punches but what makes him difficult to fight against are the weird angles,the amount that are thrown etc. and he has shortened them..the Benitez fight,he threw short ones against Kyvelos and the long ones are punches which you don't see coming,they are the ones that hurt.
Re: Q & A with Antonio Margarito (he has a new nickname for floyd)
Margarito throws wide shots. He would get picked apart unless he learns to tighten up his punches.
Re: Q & A with Antonio Margarito (he has a new nickname for floyd)
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Antonio Margarito Says:
Mayweather-I'll knock him out Arturo Gatti-I'll Retire him
Ricky Hatton -I'll knock him out Oscar De La Hoya- I'll Retire him
Shane Mosley-I'll knock him out
good to see he knows better then to say he could beat judah, i support this man :thumb:
he's a loyal fan alright but cmon ur man is damaged goods
if judah is damaged goods for an illegitimate TKO loss to tszyu, a robbery in vegas, a decision loss he should have been given against baldozar, and a loss in a fight where his opponents trainer was aloowed to choke him for over a minute between rounds...
then margarito is a fuckn joke ;)
Apparently you have been around here much longer then I have but what are you, just a troll trying to stir up sh*t all the time and get people to argue with you about one the dumbest fighters around (JUDAH). All those fights you just listed were legit losses for your super boy, you call Margarito a f**king joke but that joke would be all over Judah and it would end quickly.
judah has only been knocked down once by something other then balance, i dont see why people think margarito would be able to land a solid enough shot to hurt him, i guarentee judah KTFO margarito
