Re: How overatted is Prince Naseem?
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Originally Posted by MOOG
bIG H you list all these fighters that Naseem beat but if you think about it he get's great credit for beating the likes of Tom 'Boom Boom' Johnson and wayne McCullough then on the other hand someone like scott Harrison beats them both and we get told there not that good, so yes I would say he was overratd because he get's more credit for beating these opponents than other boxers like Scott harrison have because they are not as camera freindly.
The only thing your right about is Harrison not being camera friendly. The rest was stupidity. And that got you your second sc.
Re: How overatted is Prince Naseem?
Naz only fought 1 good fighter everyone else was just fluff.
Re: How overatted is Prince Naseem?
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Originally Posted by MOOG
bIG H you list all these fighters that Naseem beat but if you think about it he get's great credit for beating the likes of Tom 'Boom Boom' Johnson and wayne McCullough then on the other hand someone like scott Harrison beats them both and we get told there not that good, so yes I would say he was overratd because he get's more credit for beating these opponents than other boxers like Scott harrison have because they are not as camera freindly.
When Hamed fought Johnson, Johnson was 42-2 and world champion, when he fought Harrison 3 years later he was 5 and 5 for his last 10 fights 8 of whcih were against nobodies
When Hamed fought McCullough he had lost 1 split decison in 23 fights, when he fought Harrison he should never have been allowed in the ring due to his health!!
Hamed didn't fight any all time greats, but who has or does, they don't come along that often, as I said before he fought the best there was, can you name anybody other than Morales that he should have fought but didn't??
Re: How overatted is Prince Naseem?
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Naz only fought 1 good fighter everyone else was just fluff.
You should read some other peoples opinions in the thread because you just show how extremely limited your boxing "knowlege" is coming out with the same old shit.
Re: How overatted is Prince Naseem?
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by MOOG
bIG H you list all these fighters that Naseem beat but if you think about it he get's great credit for beating the likes of Tom 'Boom Boom' Johnson and wayne McCullough then on the other hand someone like scott Harrison beats them both and we get told there not that good, so yes I would say he was overratd because he get's more credit for beating these opponents than other boxers like Scott harrison have because they are not as camera freindly.
When Hamed fought Johnson, Johnson was 42-2 and world champion, when he fought Harrison 3 years later he was 5 and 5 for his last 10 fights 8 of whcih were against nobodies
When Hamed fought McCullough he had lost 1 split decison in 23 fights, when he fought Harrison he should never have been allowed in the ring due to his health!!
Hamed didn't fight any all time greats, but who has or does, they don't come along that often, as I said before he fought the best there was, can you name anybody other than Morales that he should have fought but didn't??
That's easy. Juan Manuel Marquez
Re: How overatted is Prince Naseem?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by MOOG
bIG H you list all these fighters that Naseem beat but if you think about it he get's great credit for beating the likes of Tom 'Boom Boom' Johnson and wayne McCullough then on the other hand someone like scott Harrison beats them both and we get told there not that good, so yes I would say he was overratd because he get's more credit for beating these opponents than other boxers like Scott harrison have because they are not as camera freindly.
When Hamed fought Johnson, Johnson was 42-2 and world champion, when he fought Harrison 3 years later he was 5 and 5 for his last 10 fights 8 of whcih were against nobodies
When Hamed fought McCullough he had lost 1 split decison in 23 fights, when he fought Harrison he should never have been allowed in the ring due to his health!!
Hamed didn't fight any all time greats, but who has or does, they don't come along that often, as I said before he fought the best there was, can you name anybody other than Morales that he should have fought but didn't??
That's easy. Juan Manuel Marquez
Marquez wasn't even in the picture, he had lost his 1 shot at a title and wasn't operating at World Class level during Naz' prime - he was fighting stiffs
Re: How overatted is Prince Naseem?
Naz started to believe that he couldnt be beaten and never trained like he did when he was younger or with brenden ingle. But he was a great fight and very good to watch!
Re: How overatted is Prince Naseem?
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Originally Posted by Fenster
You should read some other peoples opinions in the thread because you just show how extremely limited your boxing "knowlege" is coming out with the same old shit.
Just because someone has a good record doesn't mean they are a good fighter.
Face it people Naz was popular because he was a power puncher with an unorthodox style. He was flashy and flamboyant, much like a Muhamed Ali, Hector Camacho, Roy Jones Jr, etc. But when you compare his competition and skill level with those guys he just doesn't measure up.
I can say I honestly dislike Naz because after 1 loss he gave up. He didn't try for a rematch, he didn't go after anyone else, he didn't move weight classes, he just gave up and that is pathetic...giving up IN YOUR PRIME because you didn't win, ONE FIGHT.
36(31 KO's)-1
Noteable matches
MAB L UD
Kevin Kelly KO 4
Wayne McCullough UD 12
Manuel Medina TKO 11
MAB was definantly in his prime when they fought
Kelly was as he is now, a chinny power puncher
McCullough was green
Medina got KO'd by Derrick Gainer if that tells you anything
Re: How overatted is Prince Naseem?
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by MOOG
bIG H you list all these fighters that Naseem beat but if you think about it he get's great credit for beating the likes of Tom 'Boom Boom' Johnson and wayne McCullough then on the other hand someone like scott Harrison beats them both and we get told there not that good, so yes I would say he was overratd because he get's more credit for beating these opponents than other boxers like Scott harrison have because they are not as camera freindly.
When Hamed fought Johnson, Johnson was 42-2 and world champion, when he fought Harrison 3 years later he was 5 and 5 for his last 10 fights 8 of whcih were against nobodies
When Hamed fought McCullough he had lost 1 split decison in 23 fights, when he fought Harrison he should never have been allowed in the ring due to his health!!
Hamed didn't fight any all time greats, but who has or does, they don't come along that often, as I said before he fought the best there was, can you name anybody other than Morales that he should have fought but didn't??
That's easy. Juan Manuel Marquez
Marquez wasn't even in the picture, he had lost his 1 shot at a title and wasn't operating at World Class level during Naz' prime - he was fighting stiffs
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Marquez, Hamed's mandatory for like 2 years?
Re: How overatted is Prince Naseem?
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Fenster
You should read some other peoples opinions in the thread because you just show how extremely limited your boxing "knowlege" is coming out with the same old shit.
Just because someone has a good record doesn't mean they are a good fighter.
Face it people Naz was popular because he was a power puncher with an unorthodox style. He was flashy and flamboyant, much like a Muhamed Ali, Hector Camacho, Roy Jones Jr, etc. But when you compare his competition and skill level with those guys he just doesn't measure up.
I can say I honestly dislike Naz because after 1 loss he gave up. He didn't try for a rematch, he didn't go after anyone else, he didn't move weight classes, he just gave up and that is pathetic...giving up IN YOUR PRIME because you didn't win, ONE FIGHT.
36(31 KO's)-1
Noteable matches
MAB L UD
Kevin Kelly KO 4
Wayne McCullough UD 12
Manuel Medina TKO 11
MAB was definantly in his prime when they fought
Kelly was as he is now, a chinny power puncher
McCullough was green
Medina got KO'd by Derrick Gainer if that tells you anything
McCullough was green!?! ahahaaa ;D
You're naming Naz alongside illustrious greats like Ali and Jones then comparing his level of competition, skill and acomplishments ::**
As has been pointed out numerous times already on this thread, and as you have just proved yourself, he fought and beat many a world class fighter, far from being merely fuff, and lost to a "GREAT" one.
Re: How overatted is Prince Naseem?
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Originally Posted by ono
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Originally Posted by Missy
I don't think Naz was a good boxerhe had good reflexes and power which kept him going for so long and I was surprised at how long he lasted....I see Froch being the same. ::**
Carl Froch is not even close to being in the same league as naseem was. Froch doesn't even have good reflexes.
no he doesn't which is why it amuses me to see him fight like a bigger version of naz and amuses me when people talk him up. 8)
Re: How overatted is Prince Naseem?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by MOOG
bIG H you list all these fighters that Naseem beat but if you think about it he get's great credit for beating the likes of Tom 'Boom Boom' Johnson and wayne McCullough then on the other hand someone like scott Harrison beats them both and we get told there not that good, so yes I would say he was overratd because he get's more credit for beating these opponents than other boxers like Scott harrison have because they are not as camera freindly.
The only thing your right about is Harrison not being camera friendly. The rest was stupidity. And that got you your second sc.
Demise i take it back, i am beginning to take a shine to your original SC technique!! i suppose i'll get one for being so respectful.
Re: How overatted is Prince Naseem?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by MOOG
bIG H you list all these fighters that Naseem beat but if you think about it he get's great credit for beating the likes of Tom 'Boom Boom' Johnson and wayne McCullough then on the other hand someone like scott Harrison beats them both and we get told there not that good, so yes I would say he was overratd because he get's more credit for beating these opponents than other boxers like Scott harrison have because they are not as camera freindly.
When Hamed fought Johnson, Johnson was 42-2 and world champion, when he fought Harrison 3 years later he was 5 and 5 for his last 10 fights 8 of whcih were against nobodies
When Hamed fought McCullough he had lost 1 split decison in 23 fights, when he fought Harrison he should never have been allowed in the ring due to his health!!
Hamed didn't fight any all time greats, but who has or does, they don't come along that often, as I said before he fought the best there was, can you name anybody other than Morales that he should have fought but didn't??
That's easy. Juan Manuel Marquez
Marquez wasn't even in the picture, he had lost his 1 shot at a title and wasn't operating at World Class level during Naz' prime - he was fighting stiffs
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Marquez, Hamed's mandatory for like 2 years?
I don't remember him even being touted never mind the mandatory for 2 years (I could be wrong) He didn't win a world title until 2003 and Naz was long gone by then - look at who Marquez was fighting around this time, he would not have been a bigger draw than the likes of Johson, Kelly, Vasquez or McCullough and wouldn't have improved Naz's stock anymore.
Agreed he would've been a great fight if Naz had've been prime around 2003-2005.
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Naz did fight one more time after Barrera gainst Manual Calvo or something like that.
Everyone turned on him he got boo'd by his fans and didnt put on a good performance against Calvo.
That with the Barrera loss took the game out of him.
ps. Naz was very humble in defeat and gave mad props to Barrera and called him the better fighter.
Re: How overatted is Prince Naseem?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by MOOG
bIG H you list all these fighters that Naseem beat but if you think about it he get's great credit for beating the likes of Tom 'Boom Boom' Johnson and wayne McCullough then on the other hand someone like scott Harrison beats them both and we get told there not that good, so yes I would say he was overratd because he get's more credit for beating these opponents than other boxers like Scott harrison have because they are not as camera freindly.
When Hamed fought Johnson, Johnson was 42-2 and world champion, when he fought Harrison 3 years later he was 5 and 5 for his last 10 fights 8 of whcih were against nobodies
When Hamed fought McCullough he had lost 1 split decison in 23 fights, when he fought Harrison he should never have been allowed in the ring due to his health!!
Hamed didn't fight any all time greats, but who has or does, they don't come along that often, as I said before he fought the best there was, can you name anybody other than Morales that he should have fought but didn't??
That's easy. Juan Manuel Marquez
Have a Sc on me Demise for being so wrong, Marquez was fighting ten rounders until 2002, and was in his first World Title elimanater for the IBF Strap longh after Naz had anything to do with that belt, and Big H you have a CC for the fact your right Naz could only be seen as not fighting Morlaes when he was in his prime, but would of if he had the chance, if he had beaton MAB.
