Official 'Jose Luis Castillo should be banned from boxing' thread..........

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Originally Posted by Starr

He HAD his corner man lift the scale?

and if he's a cheater then Mark Johnson and Manny Pacquiao would be in the same boat ;)

You see I don't think he doubted he could make the weight when he signed for the fight(was 138 or so for Reyes) But when you can't do it you just can't do it. The commission ahd someone check on him once a month when he trained to see how much he weighed and each time they came he had to make weight per month or they would call the fight(as in once a month he had to haev a weight he was below when they weighed him), and he passed all of those. If after all that including the monthly weigh ins and he doesn't make the weight, I doubt he cheated, his body can't do it.

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Yeh i'm with starr on this one, i don't think he tried to cheat because at the end of the day the scales arnt guna lie. I just don't think he can make 135 anymore. He should be suspended for 6 months or so tho. I don't think permanantly revoking his licence is the answer...i mean Toney tested positive for steroids and he's stil got his licence.

Soi obviously the answer is to ban Castillo for 6 months, and then to confiscate his purse from the next fight and split it between everyone who had already paid up for the PPV, and send everyone down the pub on Castillo.

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Originally Posted by SecondRoundKO

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Originally Posted by squealpiggy

Plus it's thrown a right bloody spanner in the works for my Saturday night ;)

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EXACTLY hahaha

I was going to have people over for this fight. Last time I had people over was for Calzaghe - Lacy...I wanted this one to be a bi less of a disappointment. Guess not.

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Bullshit Ono - if he could make 138 for Reyes then surely to hell he could have done a little better than 140 for this one...



I think Corrales must have knocked the mathematical part of his brain out of kilter in that first fight - he can't subtract anymore. He thinks 140 is only a couple of pounds away from 135...



Even if it was unintentional, he surely would have know he was struggling to make weight a little earlier than THE DAY OF THE DAMN WEIGH IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


Sorry to Castillo fans, but there is no 'out' for this one.

You know a week before a fight if you can do it or not, the trainer is as much to blame as He is. They were trying it on.

I think banning Castillo is a bit harsh, but the guy definitely shouldn't be suspended for 6 months to a year. If the guy can't make weight, fine, but the guy deceived a ton of people all week. Imagine all the people that were flying out to see the fight, they basically paid airfare, hotel costs, and expenses for nothing. Castillo invited a bunch of people over for dinner and when they got there, there was no dinner. Everyone should be mad at this guy.

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Originally Posted by Greig

This guy is a shady, shady individual.

The S*** that he has pulled today, last time and who knows how many other times throughout his career cannot be tolerated. Corrales trained like a demon for this fight and now he's going to miss out on pay??

Does Castillo think that he can just walk off into the sunset to a megabucks showdown with Cotto or Hatton??



THe man is a flat out disgrace to the sport of boxing and should never be allowed in a professional ring again IMO....

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If Castillo should be banned, Joan Guzman should never be allowed to lace them up again. Joan Guzman, far and away, is the most unreliable fighter I have ever seen.

This is a high profile fight and a high profile fighter, so it's getting more attention and it has, understandably, irked the fans who were looking forward to the fight. Let's not go overboard though. Should he be reprimanded? Of course. Banned? Pushing it a bit too far.

twice on the spin now this has happened. im glad corrales has decided not to fight him non-title. would have been a carbon copy of the second bout. i think a fine is in order

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Originally Posted by Greig

Bullshit Ono - if he could make 138 for Reyes then surely to hell he could have done a little better than 140 for this one...



I think Corrales must have knocked the mathematical part of his brain out of kilter in that first fight - he can't subtract anymore. He thinks 140 is only a couple of pounds away from 135...



Even if it was unintentional, he surely would have know he was struggling to make weight a little earlier than THE DAY OF THE DAMN WEIGH IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


Sorry to Castillo fans, but there is no 'out' for this one.

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And are a fan of Pacquiao ??? And he can make 138 for Reyes(which means he intended to make 135 for the fight if Corrales hadn't gotten injured) So why would he cheat now? And HOW do you know that he knew he couldn't make weight the day he signed the contract? Mark Johnson made 115 for one fight and then weighed about 120 for the next one after hard training, is he a cheater too ::** Oh Its just easy for him just because he weighed less in his last fight ::** Again, its not that simple OR easy.

Castillo/Castillo's management were very unprofessional, it seems clear Castillo was possibly never going to get down to 135lbs.

But boxing history is full of fighters not making the weight required in the contract, it would in the present climate, set a very dangerous precedent to punish Castillo and his team in anyway.

There is a argument for saying as it is only 4lbs, perhaps Corrales should of gone ahead of with the fight, and been given a further financial reward as compensation. This is very often done in situations like this. It would give both fighters a pay day, neither are now not going to get, not to mention saving the promotors, TV and fans disappointment.

I think that Corrales should sue Castillo for loss of earnings.

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Originally Posted by Britkid

There is a argument for saying as it is only 4lbs, perhaps Corrales should of gone ahead of with the fight, and been given a further financial reward as compensation.

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Where did that get Corrales second time around?

Castillo either intentionally tried to cheat, or made no effort at all NOT to cheat, if that makes sense, no doubt expecting Corrales to save the show and get walloped for his trouble.

IMO it's irrelevant whether Castillo and his team knew they'd fail to make weight or not (personally, I believe they must've known...... we're talking 5 full pounds). It's also irrelevant as to the reasons why.

Bottom line is: Castillo showed an incredible lack of respect for the sport, for Corrales, and for the boxing fans. He should be punished appropriately. Whether that means a suspension, a fine, both...... whatever. He owes boxing fans an apology, and I also feel Corrales should get some financial retribution for this incredible sham.

To have this happen not once, but twice in a row..... it's just plain unforgivable.

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Originally Posted by Memphis

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Originally Posted by Britkid

There is a argument for saying as it is only 4lbs, perhaps Corrales should of gone ahead of with the fight, and been given a further financial reward as compensation.

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Where did that get Corrales second time around?

Castillo either intentionally tried to cheat, or made no effort at all NOT to cheat, if that makes sense, no doubt expecting Corrales to save the show and get walloped for his trouble.

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Maybe so, but Corrales would of been very well paid for it, and the vast majority of boxing fans and perhaps more importantly TV Execs would of known the real score. Thus win, lose or draw, in the fight; Corrales would of boosted his reputation...

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Originally Posted by Britkid

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Originally Posted by Memphis

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Originally Posted by Britkid

There is a argument for saying as it is only 4lbs, perhaps Corrales should of gone ahead of with the fight, and been given a further financial reward as compensation.

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Where did that get Corrales second time around?

Castillo either intentionally tried to cheat, or made no effort at all NOT to cheat, if that makes sense, no doubt expecting Corrales to save the show and get walloped for his trouble.

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Maybe so, but Corrales would of been very well paid for it, and the vast majority of boxing fans and perhaps more importantly TV Execs would of known the real score. Thus win, lose or draw, in the fight; Corrales would of boosted his reputation...

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And risk getting KO'd again? Five pounds might not seem like a lot, but at this weight it certainly is. Corrales went along with the sham the first time and got the short end of a surprisingly one-sided fight. Can't blame him for not wanting more of the same.

I think Corrales is held in high enough estime, he doesnt need to take another one for the team ;)