Re: If You Had The Power To Resurect Or Turn Back The Clock on A fighter Who Is It?
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Originally Posted by Swice
Mike Tyson. In his hayday he was dynamic.
But he still wouldn't beat a Prime Lewis or Holyfield
I would like a Prime George Foreman...he would beat EVERYONE. I mean if I had to schedule any heavyweight fight vs anyone all-time, the first choice is George Foreman, he could beat almost anyone, yes including a Prime Tyson, George was too tall and too powerful for Tyson.
Roy Jones Jr.
Chris Eubank (see how Tarver would fight HIM)
REAL OLD SCHOOL
John L. Sullivan
Jack Johnson
Young Griffo
Willie Pep
Harry Greb
Gentleman Jim Corbett
Re: If You Had The Power To Resurect Or Turn Back The Clock on A fighter Who Is It?
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Swice
Mike Tyson. In his hayday he was dynamic.
But he still wouldn't beat a Prime Lewis or Holyfield
I would like a Prime George Foreman...he would beat EVERYONE. I mean if I had to schedule any heavyweight fight vs anyone all-time, the first choice is George Foreman, he could beat almost anyone, yes including a Prime Tyson, George was too tall and too powerful for Tyson.
Roy Jones Jr.
Chris Eubank (see how Tarver would fight HIM)
REAL OLD SCHOOL
John L. Sullivan
Jack Johnson
Young Griffo
Willie Pep
Harry Greb
Gentleman Jim Corbett
George Foreman was beaten in his prime by Muhammed Ali who was not in his prime. George was at his peak mentally and physically for the fight and he got hammered. Many historians over the years say that it was a rope a dope, but it really was not. Ali wobbled that guy on numerous occasions in that fight and simply outboxed him, he threw alot more heat than Foreman even though Foreman was the stalker. Foreman was awesome but a mentally stable Tyson what have put him down.
Re: If You Had The Power To Resurect Or Turn Back The Clock on A fighter Who Is It?
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Swice
Mike Tyson. In his hayday he was dynamic.
But he still wouldn't beat a Prime Lewis or Holyfield
I would like a Prime George Foreman...he would beat EVERYONE. I mean if I had to schedule any heavyweight fight vs anyone all-time, the first choice is George Foreman, he could beat almost anyone, yes including a Prime Tyson, George was too tall and too powerful for Tyson.
Roy Jones Jr.
Chris Eubank (see how Tarver would fight HIM)
REAL OLD SCHOOL
John L. Sullivan
Jack Johnson
Young Griffo
Willie Pep
Harry Greb
Gentleman Jim Corbett
Lyle I want to respectfully disagree with you on Tyson vs Foreman I am curious to see what the break down of the fight would be in your mind what did Foreman have that Tyson didnt? and how would he accompolish beating Tyson? What skill set did he possess that elevate him over Tyson? Thanks
Re: If You Had The Power To Resurect Or Turn Back The Clock on A fighter Who Is It?
Would love to see prime RJJ still fighting now,wish he was prime against Tarver,would love to see Pernell Whitaker anywhere.Tito would cause havoc at 147 and De La Hoya in his prime for the fight against Floyd!!! Oh and Marvin Hagler too!
Re: If You Had The Power To Resurect Or Turn Back The Clock on A fighter Who Is It?
1st GBrandon, "a mentally stable" Tyson...yeah when was that again? Foreman hit harder, was meaner, and would bully Tyson before Tyson could bully him.
Tyson beat an Old Holmes and a tiny Michael Spinks who was an all-time great...other than that he had 0 victories over an All-Time Great light heavyweight.
Foreman won the title twice, beat: Frazier (twice), Norton, Chuvalo, Ron Lyle and so on. He hit harder, he was a big bully, he fought anyone who would step in the ring with him.
Re: If You Had The Power To Resurect Or Turn Back The Clock on A fighter Who Is It?
I would love to turn back ttime and see just how much greater Tyson could have been if it wasn't for the jail sentences and this, that and the other!
I think he would have been the greatest ever heavyweight boxer.
What a waste!
Re: If You Had The Power To Resurect Or Turn Back The Clock on A fighter Who Is It?
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Originally Posted by Lyle
1st GBrandon, "a mentally stable" Tyson...yeah when was that again? Foreman hit harder, was meaner, and would bully Tyson before Tyson could bully him.
Tyson beat an Old Holmes and a tiny Michael Spinks who was an all-time great...other than that he had 0 victories over an All-Time Great light heavyweight.
Foreman won the title twice, beat: Frazier (twice), Norton, Chuvalo, Ron Lyle and so on. He hit harder, he was a big bully, he fought anyone who would step in the ring with him.
There was only one man that could ever seem to control Mike Tyson and that was trainer Cus D'Amato. Mike was alway's wild even before he met the trainer but Cus seemed to be a father figure and a great mentor. He made Mike into a great champion and kept him focused something he could not do after his death, this is what I mean by mentally stable. Secondly Micheal Spinks seemed to be just fine at heavyweight, beating an unbeaten legend like Larry Holmes back to back while capturing the heavyweight title. Why was he undersized? Maybe it's the 91 second debacle that he recieved from Tyson!! Micheal Spinks size was not the reason he got knocked out, it's because Mike was relentless and Spinks was very scared. Another thing was Mike is the youngest heavyweight champion in history at 20, most 20 year olds today or living with their parents. That was a great accomplishment as well as unifiying them a couple of years later I don't care if you question the opposition or not. Now back to George Foreman, nobody is taking anything away from him or his great victories or his punching power, I respect it unlike your disrespect for Tyson. I just think that prime on prime Tyson would have beat him. I doubt very serious that Foreman could have taken the storm, but since you are so confident about it start a thread and take a poll. I guarantee you will have most of the forum disagree with you.
Re: If You Had The Power To Resurect Or Turn Back The Clock on A fighter Who Is It?
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Originally Posted by Lyle
1st GBrandon, "a mentally stable" Tyson...yeah when was that again? Foreman hit harder, was meaner, and would bully Tyson before Tyson could bully him.
Tyson beat an Old Holmes and a tiny Michael Spinks who was an all-time great...other than that he had 0 victories over an All-Time Great light heavyweight.
Foreman won the title twice, beat: Frazier (twice), Norton, Chuvalo, Ron Lyle and so on. He hit harder, he was a big bully, he fought anyone who would step in the ring with him.
I agree on how fearful people were of George he was a beast!!!!But I have watched alot Foreman fights and I was a big fan of his comeback as well as his history. The truth is George had no defense and lacked in the speed department...Early Tyson who jabbed and set up his combo's would be way to fast for George he would be overwhelmed,Tyson would land devasteing shots through Georges leaky defense..
Tyson Ko's George in 6..Only cause George is holding Tyson more than punching him or if it was a slugfest Tyson in 2, SC all you want its the truth..
Tyson was just as feared if not more than George...Everyone focuses on Tysons power which was some of the best ever,early Tyson had middleweight hand speed with devestating Power and 5-6 punch combos...THAT IS THE INTIMIDATIG PART...Nuclear missles coming at you like they were shot out of an UZI!!!!
Re: If You Had The Power To Resurect Or Turn Back The Clock on A fighter Who Is It?
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Originally Posted by jtrock
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Originally Posted by Lyle
1st GBrandon, "a mentally stable" Tyson...yeah when was that again? Foreman hit harder, was meaner, and would bully Tyson before Tyson could bully him.
Tyson beat an Old Holmes and a tiny Michael Spinks who was an all-time great...other than that he had 0 victories over an All-Time Great light heavyweight.
Foreman won the title twice, beat: Frazier (twice), Norton, Chuvalo, Ron Lyle and so on. He hit harder, he was a big bully, he fought anyone who would step in the ring with him.
I agree on how fearful people were of George he was a beast!!!!But I have watched alot Foreman fights and I was a big fan of his comeback as well as his history. The truth is George had no defense and lacked in the speed department...Early Tyson who jabbed and set up his combo's would be way to fast for George he would be overwhelmed,Tyson would land devasteing shots through Georges leaky defense..
Tyson Ko's George in 6..Only cause George is holding Tyson more than punching him or if it was a slugfest Tyson in 2, SC all you want its the truth..
Tyson was just as feared if not more than George...Everyone focuses on Tysons power which was some of the best ever,early Tyson had middleweight hand speed with devestating Power and 5-6 punch combos...THAT IS THE INTIMIDATIG PART...Nuclear missles coming at you like they were shot out of an UZI!!!!
Well written a CC for you
Re: If You Had The Power To Resurect Or Turn Back The Clock on A fighter Who Is It?
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Originally Posted by gbrandon
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Originally Posted by jtrock
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Originally Posted by Lyle
1st GBrandon, "a mentally stable" Tyson...yeah when was that again? Foreman hit harder, was meaner, and would bully Tyson before Tyson could bully him.
Tyson beat an Old Holmes and a tiny Michael Spinks who was an all-time great...other than that he had 0 victories over an All-Time Great light heavyweight.
Foreman won the title twice, beat: Frazier (twice), Norton, Chuvalo, Ron Lyle and so on. He hit harder, he was a big bully, he fought anyone who would step in the ring with him.
I agree on how fearful people were of George he was a beast!!!!But I have watched alot Foreman fights and I was a big fan of his comeback as well as his history. The truth is George had no defense and lacked in the speed department...Early Tyson who jabbed and set up his combo's would be way to fast for George he would be overwhelmed,Tyson would land devasteing shots through Georges leaky defense..
Tyson Ko's George in 6..Only cause George is holding Tyson more than punching him or if it was a slugfest Tyson in 2, SC all you want its the truth..
Tyson was just as feared if not more than George...Everyone focuses on Tysons power which was some of the best ever,early Tyson had middleweight hand speed with devestating Power and 5-6 punch combos...THAT IS THE INTIMIDATIG PART...Nuclear missles coming at you like they were shot out of an UZI!!!!
Well written a CC for you
Thank you very much....Back at you
