Top Ten Greatest Heavyweights of all Time!

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1. Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. George Foreman
4. Holmes
5. Lewis
6. Rocky Marciano
7. Holyfield
8. Mike Tyson
9. Joe Frazier
10. Jack Johnson

Golota number two all-time?! Thanks for the laugh.

Of all of the heavies in the past 100+ years, i can't believe that you guys are putting LLewis in the top 10

Is it a British thing or what? If so, I guess that I could understand but otherwise...... :banghead:

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Originally Posted by Jimmy_Elliott

1. Evander Holyfield
2. Andrew Golota
3. Joe Louis
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Muhammad Ali
6. Jack Johnson
7. Sonny Liston
8. Ike Ibeabuchi
9.Tommy Morrison
10. Larry Holmes

What does everybody else think?? I'm sure this is a debateable thread. You can argue about a few names on my list. But most of them go without saying!

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Golota, Morrison and Ike do not deserve to be in the mix.

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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone

Of all of the heavies in the past 100+ years, i can't believe that you guys are putting LLewis in the top 10

Is it a British thing or what? If so, I guess that I could understand but otherwise...... :banghead:

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I personally wouldn't put Lewis in there and I'm British but........................................

Think about what he achieved, how long he dominated & how he avenged his only 2 defeats and then try and think of 10 Heavyweights in history that have a better resume. Also try and find 10 that would have beaten him on his very best night!!

The division has been tradionally weak with almost every era having just 1 dominant figure, there must be atleast 20 fighters with a very real claim to be top 10 all time

Is it really that inconcievable that people would have Lennox Lewis there?

Lewis has got more right to be in a top 10 list than Holyfeild in my opinion. He was ducked by him and beat him. He lost two fights by KO, but a fading Bowe stopped holyfeild as well. Evander's reputation was based on his heart, his defeat of an aging Tyson and the 3 fights with Bowe (who ducked Lewis). He was a great cruiser, and a very good small hevyweight with a great chin, ordinary 1-shot power but good combination punching skills. He was beaten or taken to the brink by a lot of faded or ordinary fighters in his prime. (Cooper, Dokes, Foreman, Holmes, Moorer etc.)

I'm not English, but I think the lack of respect given to Lewis is due to his not being American and his somewhat cautious style.

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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone

Of all of the heavies in the past 100+ years, i can't believe that you guys are putting LLewis in the top 10

Is it a British thing or what? If so, I guess that I could understand but otherwise...... :banghead:

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........ there must be atleast 20 fighters with a very real claim to be top 10 all time

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A good point....I can agree with that.

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Originally Posted by BIG H

Is it really that inconcievable that people would have Lennox Lewis there?

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My issue with him is that the man got credit for having great timing....In other words he beat a Tsyon who in every sense of the word wasn't even close to the same person.

His tidious victories over an old Holyfield (still not convinced about the second fight) who had struggled with Vaughn Bean in the previous match and had pretty much seen his last convincing fight 3 years before with Tyson, were very unimpresssive to me as well.

I give him lots of credit though for the nature in which he beat Ruddock, Golota,and Grant, and the fact that he had the guts to step into the ring with the guys who KOed him

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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone

Of all of the heavies in the past 100+ years, i can't believe that you guys are putting LLewis in the top 10

Is it a British thing or what? If so, I guess that I could understand but otherwise...... :banghead:

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........ there must be atleast 20 fighters with a very real claim to be top 10 all time

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A good point....I can agree with that.

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Originally Posted by BIG H

Is it really that inconcievable that people would have Lennox Lewis there?

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My issue with him is that the man got credit for having great timing....In other words he beat a Tsyon who in every sense of the word wasn't even close to the same person.

His tidious victories over an old Holyfield (still not convinced about the second fight) who had struggled with Vaughn Bean in the previous match and had pretty much seen his last convincing fight 3 years before with Tyson, were very unimpresssive to me as well.

I give him lots of credit though for the nature in which he beat Ruddock, Golota,and Grant, and the fact that he had the guts to step into the ring with the guys who KOed him

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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone

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Originally Posted by BIG H

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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone

Of all of the heavies in the past 100+ years, i can't believe that you guys are putting LLewis in the top 10

Is it a British thing or what? If so, I guess that I could understand but otherwise...... :banghead:

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........ there must be atleast 20 fighters with a very real claim to be top 10 all time

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A good point....I can agree with that.

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Originally Posted by BIG H

Is it really that inconcievable that people would have Lennox Lewis there?

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My issue with him is that the man got credit for having great timing....In other words he beat a Tsyon who in every sense of the word wasn't even close to the same person.

His tidious victories over an old Holyfield (still not convinced about the second fight) who had struggled with Vaughn Bean in the previous match and had pretty much seen his last convincing fight 3 years before with Tyson, were very unimpresssive to me as well.

I give him lots of credit though for the nature in which he beat Ruddock, Golota,and Grant, and the fact that he had the guts to step into the ring with the guys who KOed him

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:coolclick: Back at you

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Originally Posted by X

I have had this conversation with Raleights.

I write in blue.

BUT ILL MITCH WRITE BLACK INK SHOUT CAPITAL LETTER
IN RUSSIA ALL MEN SHOUT LOUD LIKE BEAR
NOT WRITE BLUE LIKE HOMASEX NAME X

See?

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AH I GET NOW IS CONFUSING IN MERICA THE CAPITAL LETTER MEAN ANGRY TALK :cwm23:

AND THE PINK IS FOR HOMASEX :date:

THE BLUE WRITING IS OK

HERE IS COOL CLICK FOR YOU :coolclick: IN BLACK INK CAPITAL

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Originally Posted by Jimmy_Elliott

1. Evander Holyfield
2. Andrew Golota
3. Joe Louis
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Muhammad Ali
6. Jack Johnson
7. Sonny Liston
8. Ike Ibeabuchi
9.Tommy Morrison
10. Larry Holmes

What does everybody else think?? I'm sure this is a debateable thread. You can argue about a few names on my list. But most of them go without saying!

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you have drank from the kool-aid well once too often....Marciano, Louis, Ali, Johnson(maybe) I could see on a top 10 list...but the others....are you serious....put the pipe down and walk away....

Wow :o