Re: SHOULD Chuck Giampa BE BLACKLISTED?
I don't really think he won the rematch either, to be honest.
Re: SHOULD Chuck Giampa BE BLACKLISTED?
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not only did he give taylor that fight by 2 points (115-113)...
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2004-04-10 Cory Spinks W Zab Judah -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 114-112 (spinks)
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1994-01-29 Julio Cesar Chavez L Frankie Randall -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 111-116 (rhandall)
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2005-12-03 Jermain Taylor W Bernard Hopkins -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 115-113 (taylor)
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2000-10-07 Paulie Ayala W Johnny Tapia -- Judge: Chuck Giampa 115-113 (ayala)
::** Exactly what about his decision on the Chavez-Randall fight is wrong ??? ::**
just a very wide margin
Chavez had not one, but TWO points deducted in that fight for low blows, AS WELL as suffering the only knockdown of the fight, and got DOMINATED. If anyone from that fight should be blacklisted, it's Abraham Chavarria, who despite seeing all that, gave CHAVEZ a 114-113 score :o. Giampa scored this fight perfectly.
thats a decision for you to make, some people feel he scored wright taylor perfectly, this is just well known fights that he had notable scores of
Re: SHOULD Chuck Giampa BE BLACKLISTED?
Judging by the state of Winky's face when Larry Merchant interviewed him in his dressing room I can only conclude 1 of two things.
Either, Taylor did land WAAAAAAAAAAY more punches than you guys are crediting him with.
or
Someone else beat the shat out of him on his way to the shower.
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Judging by the state of Winky's face when Larry Merchant interviewed him in his dressing room I can only conclude 1 of two things.
Either, Taylor did land WAAAAAAAAAAY more punches than you guys are crediting him with.
or
Someone else beat the shat out of him on his way to the shower.
id say that taylor was strong enought to smack wrights palms into his own head ;)
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Judging by the state of Winky's face when Larry Merchant interviewed him in his dressing room I can only conclude 1 of two things.
Either, Taylor did land WAAAAAAAAAAY more punches than you guys are crediting him with.
or
Someone else beat the shat out of him on his way to the shower.
id say that taylor was strong enought to smack wrights palms into his own head ;)
and those were just the shots he was missing..
what kind of effect do you think the shots that actually landed had on winky?
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Judging by the state of Winky's face when Larry Merchant interviewed him in his dressing room I can only conclude 1 of two things.
Either, Taylor did land WAAAAAAAAAAY more punches than you guys are crediting him with.
or
Someone else beat the shat out of him on his way to the shower.
id say that taylor was strong enought to smack wrights palms into his own head ;)
and those were just the shots he was missing..
what kind of effect do you think the shots that actually landed had on winky?
;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
he could have concussed him with 5 punches in one round...
doesnt mean you give him that round if winky landed 9 ;)
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Judging by the state of Winky's face when Larry Merchant interviewed him in his dressing room I can only conclude 1 of two things.
Either, Taylor did land WAAAAAAAAAAY more punches than you guys are crediting him with.
or
Someone else beat the shat out of him on his way to the shower.
id say that taylor was strong enought to smack wrights palms into his own head ;)
Its about more then punches landed, Taylor was throwing more punches , even though Winky was parrying a lot of Taylor’s Shots Taylor was the one throwing the majority of punches. Winky did have his bursts but the majority of the rounds Taylor was busier IMO , stepping forward and parrying punches does not win the round
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Judging by the state of Winky's face when Larry Merchant interviewed him in his dressing room I can only conclude 1 of two things.
Either, Taylor did land WAAAAAAAAAAY more punches than you guys are crediting him with.
or
Someone else beat the shat out of him on his way to the shower.
id say that taylor was strong enought to smack wrights palms into his own head ;)
Its about more then punches landed, Taylor was throwing more punches  , even though Winky was parrying a lot of Taylor’s Shots Taylor was the one throwing the majority of  punches. Winky did have his bursts but the  majority of the rounds Taylor was busier IMO , stepping forward and parrying punches does not  win the round
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taylor was backing up 90% of the time, without wright coming foreward taylor wouldnt have been throwing as many punches, everytime wright stopped coming in taylor just stood there,
reguardless, that means nothing, you can throw 1000 shots in a round, if you land 1 and your opponent goes 2 for 2 he wins that round...
Re: SHOULD Chuck Giampa BE BLACKLISTED?
check it - rounds should be broken into 3 parts. 1st min, 2nd, and the final min, and average that together you get the winner of that round, to many people fall trap to the 30 sec flurries of a 3 min round. Another words Taylor was doing more , Wright fought in spots but for that not enough . . That’s my case. Good Discussion.
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by bilbo
Judging by the state of Winky's face when Larry Merchant interviewed him in his dressing room I can only conclude 1 of two things.
Either, Taylor did land WAAAAAAAAAAY more punches than you guys are crediting him with.
or
Someone else beat the shat out of him on his way to the shower.
id say that taylor was strong enought to smack wrights palms into his own head ;)
Its about more then punches landed, Taylor was throwing more punches , even though Winky was parrying a lot of Taylor’s Shots Taylor was the one throwing the majority of punches. Winky did have his bursts but the majority of the rounds Taylor was busier IMO , stepping forward and parrying punches does not win the round
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taylor was backing up 90% of the time, without wright coming foreward taylor wouldnt have been throwing as many punches, everytime wright stopped coming in taylor just stood there,
reguardless, that means nothing, you can throw 1000 shots in a round, if you land 1 and your opponent goes 2 for 2 he wins that round...
wrong!
if somebody throws two jabs and lands them both in 1 round and the other guy throws 1000 shots a round and lands 1 wicked right cross, then the BUSIER, MORE EFFECTIVE fighter wins.
;)
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
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Originally Posted by bilbo
Judging by the state of Winky's face when Larry Merchant interviewed him in his dressing room I can only conclude 1 of two things.
Either, Taylor did land WAAAAAAAAAAY more punches than you guys are crediting him with.
or
Someone else beat the shat out of him on his way to the shower.
id say that taylor was strong enought to smack wrights palms into his own head ;)
Its about more then punches landed, Taylor was throwing more punches , even though Winky was parrying a lot of Taylor’s Shots Taylor was the one throwing the majority of punches. Winky did have his bursts but the majority of the rounds Taylor was busier IMO , stepping forward and parrying punches does not win the round
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taylor was backing up 90% of the time, without wright coming foreward taylor wouldnt have been throwing as many punches, everytime wright stopped coming in taylor just stood there,
reguardless, that means nothing, you can throw 1000 shots in a round, if you land 1 and your opponent goes 2 for 2 he wins that round...
wrong!
if somebody throws two jabs and lands them both in 1 round and the other guy throws 1000 shots a round and lands 1 wicked right cross, then the BUSIER, MORE EFFECTIVE fighter wins.
;)
your getting into scenarios,
in general, TWO pucnhes > ONE
your presuming wright landed nothing but jabs, which is NOT the case
also, alot of jabs are just as hard as power shots, when it comes to fighters like big vladdy
Re: SHOULD Chuck Giampa BE BLACKLISTED?
it looks like he may escape blacklisting...
i think its official
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Originally Posted by bilbo
Judging by the state of Winky's face when Larry Merchant interviewed him in his dressing room I can only conclude 1 of two things.
Either, Taylor did land WAAAAAAAAAAY more punches than you guys are crediting him with.
or
Someone else beat the shat out of him on his way to the shower.
Remember there were a lot of head clashes in the fight, IMO that was the visible wear on both fighters faces to a large degree.
Re: SHOULD Chuck Giampa BE BLACKLISTED?
i will officially not blacklist giampa...
but is one more questionable decision is made he will be added immidiatley
