Re: When Is taylor going to get some balls and Fight FELIX STURM....
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
it might be mental..because sturm was the last person to beat him..and beat him soundedly at that...although it was the olympics..he floored jermain taylor with head gear on...and beat him up..maybe that's why he doesn't want to fight him and he's young and hungry just like jermain himself...hop and winky are on their way out of the door....
For the record...Sturm lost to Taylor at the Olympics.
Now you know that it means shat cuz this is the Pro's
Re: When Is taylor going to get some balls and Fight FELIX STURM....
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Originally Posted by NorthSideX4
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
it might be mental..because sturm was the last person to beat him..and beat him soundedly at that...although it was the olympics..he floored jermain taylor with head gear on...and beat him up..maybe that's why he doesn't want to fight him and he's young and hungry just like jermain himself...hop and winky are on their way out of the door....
For the record...Sturm lost to Taylor at the Olympics.
Now you know that it means shat cuz this is the Pro's
A legit win means something no matter where or when it happens.
Re: When Is taylor going to get some balls and Fight FELIX STURM....
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
well sturm was champ before they robbed him and took his belt and undefeated record against oscar just so he and bhop could fight with more postive feedback....
taylor should be wanting to fight sturm seeing as how that's the last person he lost to..and quite bad at that..(2000 olympics)
Strum had the low budget WBO title. Only a fool or a groupie actually considered him a champion.
Only a fool would make a statement like the above concerning a fighter that they apparently know so little about.
Come on Wacko, don't tell me you actually considered Adnan Catic champion for holding the WBO belt. What was Bernard Hopkins than?
Sure I do.
Sturm has been a champion since 2003 & has held several belts beside the WBO. He's got the WBA's belt currently & he had defended the IBF youth belt along with the WBO's Inter-Continental strap prior to losing his belt to Oscar on a bullshat bid for the Hopkins Super fight.
He's beaten quite a few game middleweights & he's done it with style. Sturm's an impressive prospect of the 160's that deserves the respect & recognition.
Like I said, I like Strum. I think he's a good fighter. And his loss to Oscar was bullshit. But bottom line is Hopkins was the only true champion when Strum had his belt. And Strum turned down $750,000 to fight Taylor.
Re: When Is taylor going to get some balls and Fight FELIX STURM....
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Like I said, I like Strum. I think he's a good fighter. And his loss to Oscar was bullshit. But bottom line is Hopkins was the only true champion when Strum had his belt. And Strum turned down $750,000 to fight Taylor.
So do you think that another bullshat loss would be worth $750,000 to Sturm?
Nope. I don't.
Boxers care about their records & Sturm can stay home & make that kind of cash, keeps his record, his belt, & his dignity instead of handing over his new title on a bullshat decision to Taylor.
Re: When Is taylor going to get some balls and Fight FELIX STURM....
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Like I said, I like Strum. I think he's a good fighter. And his loss to Oscar was bullshit. But bottom line is Hopkins was the only true champion when Strum had his belt. And Strum turned down $750,000 to fight Taylor.
So do you think that another bullshat loss would be worth $750,000 to Sturm?
Nope. I don't.
Boxers care about their records & Sturm can stay home & make that kind of cash, keeps his record, his belt, & his dignity instead of handing over his new title on a bullshat decision to Taylor.
Does that mean you think Strum would beat Taylor easily?
Re: When Is taylor going to get some balls and Fight FELIX STURM....
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Does that mean you think Strum would beat Taylor easily?
Nope. Not at all.
I think that it'd prove to be a great fight...& I do believe that Sturm could beat Taylor...he's done it before.
I just don't see anyone getting a fair shake out of their matches with Taylor since HBO has bet the farm on the kid.
Re: When Is taylor going to get some balls and Fight FELIX STURM....
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by sammiza567
how u gonna say taylor is afraid to fight ppl wow u r stupid...he just fought b-hop twice then winky wright who were both at the top of the p4p list when he fought him
bhop didn't kick his a** the way sturm did..even though it was in the olympics sturm kicked his a** and even dropped him....
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
well sturm was champ before they robbed him and took his belt and undefeated record against oscar just so he and bhop could fight with more postive feedback....
taylor should be wanting to fight sturm seeing as how that's the last person he lost to..and quite bad at that..(2000 olympics)
Strum had the low budget WBO title. Only a fool or a groupie actually considered him a champion.
well he deserved a shot at bhop m,ore than Taylor did, because sturm whooped oscar's a** there was no way that could have been ignored...jermain taylor beat up joppy, who hadn't fought in a year and he gets a shot at bhop? BS...
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Originally Posted by jman
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
well sturm was champ before they robbed him and took his belt and undefeated record against oscar just so he and bhop could fight with more postive feedback....
taylor should be wanting to fight sturm seeing as how that's the last person he lost to..and quite bad at that..(2000 olympics)
Hey. News break. Jermaine says he'd like a few days off to recover from the winky fight but just for you jonesmayweather he'll fight sturm in the streets of memphis tomorrow (sunday) morning. Just for you. ::**
Dumbass i wasn't talking about next week or tonight....there's no need to dwell on another gift decision for JT..and time to start thinking about his next opponent...
I was one of his biggest supporters until he got the courtesy HBO decisions over bhop...and now this winky crap is ridiculous....i wanted him to be great but not have his career given to him because he's hbo's next horse..
So you blame jermaine for hbo's comments? You blame jermaine for trying to give his family a better life? I tell you all this. I have watched boxing for 30 + yrs. None of the last 3 fights of JT's even come close to making an I got robbed list of fights. So what if hes HBO's next horse! Somebody is gonna be. So is Cotto and hes come way closer to losing fights than JT. Do you hate Cotto too? Bhop and Winky and RJJ and Mayweather all do the same thing. They win by controversial decisions and people like you never say one damn word about it being a robbery.
Re: When Is taylor going to get some balls and Fight FELIX STURM....
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Originally Posted by jman
So you blame jermaine for hbo's comments? You blame jermaine for trying to give his family a better life? I tell you all this. I have watched boxing for 30 + yrs. None of the last 3 fights of JT's even come close to making an I got robbed list of fights. So what if hes HBO's next horse! Somebody is gonna be. So is Cotto and hes come way closer to losing fights than JT. Do you hate Cotto too? Bhop and Winky and RJJ and Mayweather all do the same thing. They win by controversial decisions and people like you never say one damn word about it being a robbery.
Just out of curiousity...why do you keep using the word HATE?
No one hates Taylor...they just don't think that he should have gotten the win. Big difference in hating someone & discussing the fact that they got a gift decision.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Does that mean you think Strum would beat Taylor easily?
Nope. Not at all.
I think that it'd prove to be a great fight...& I do believe that Sturm could beat Taylor...he's done it before.
I just don't see anyone getting a fair shake out of their matches with Taylor since HBO has bet the farm on the kid.
That's good enough for me. I was starting to get annoyed defending Taylor as much as I had too. I don't dislike him, he's just not one of my favorites.
Re: When Is taylor going to get some balls and Fight FELIX STURM....
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by jman
So you blame jermaine for hbo's comments? You blame jermaine for trying to give his family a better life? I tell you all this. I have watched boxing for 30 + yrs. None of the last 3 fights of JT's even come close to making an I got robbed list of fights. So what if hes HBO's next horse! Somebody is gonna be. So is Cotto and hes come way closer to losing fights than JT. Do you hate Cotto too? Bhop and Winky and RJJ and Mayweather all do the same thing. They win by controversial decisions and people like you never say one damn word about it being a robbery.
Just out of curiousity...why do you keep using the word HATE?
No one hates Taylor...they just don't think that he should have gotten the win. Big difference in hating someone & discussing the fact that they got a gift decision.
Taylor didn't get the win it was a draw
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that's it i'm done predicting JT fights...i say sturm beat him and wacko has be all tachnical and tell everyone that taylor won..
i though bhop and winky beat him but hbo has be all technical and say he can't lose now it too early and we don'thave a replacement boy...
I can't predict anymore taylor fights because my eyes aren't trained well enough to see the invisible power shots that jermain keeps landing on everyone...
Re: When Is taylor going to get some balls and Fight FELIX STURM....
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Originally Posted by jman
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by sammiza567
how u gonna say taylor is afraid to fight ppl wow u r stupid...he just fought b-hop twice then winky wright who were both at the top of the p4p list when he fought him
bhop didn't kick his a** the way sturm did..even though it was in the olympics sturm kicked his a** and even dropped him....
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
well sturm was champ before they robbed him and took his belt and undefeated record against oscar just so he and bhop could fight with more postive feedback....
taylor should be wanting to fight sturm seeing as how that's the last person he lost to..and quite bad at that..(2000 olympics)
Strum had the low budget WBO title. Only a fool or a groupie actually considered him a champion.
well he deserved a shot at bhop m,ore than Taylor did, because sturm whooped oscar's a** there was no way that could have been ignored...jermain taylor beat up joppy, who hadn't fought in a year and he gets a shot at bhop? BS...
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Originally Posted by jman
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
well sturm was champ before they robbed him and took his belt and undefeated record against oscar just so he and bhop could fight with more postive feedback....
taylor should be wanting to fight sturm seeing as how that's the last person he lost to..and quite bad at that..(2000 olympics)
Hey. News break. Jermaine says he'd like a few days off to recover from the winky fight but just for you jonesmayweather he'll fight sturm in the streets of memphis tomorrow (sunday) morning. Just for you. ::**
Dumbass i wasn't talking about next week or tonight....there's no need to dwell on another gift decision for JT..and time to start thinking about his next opponent...
I was one of his biggest supporters until he got the courtesy HBO decisions over bhop...and now this winky crap is ridiculous....i wanted him to be great but not have his career given to him because he's hbo's next horse..
So you blame jermaine for hbo's comments? You blame jermaine for trying to give his family a better life? I tell you all this. I have watched boxing for 30 + yrs. None of the last 3 fights of JT's even come close to making an I got robbed list of fights. So what if hes HBO's next horse! Somebody is gonna be. So is Cotto and hes come way closer to losing fights than JT. Do you hate Cotto too? Bhop and Winky and RJJ and Mayweather all do the same thing. They win by controversial decisions and people like you never say one damn word about it being a robbery.
and when did cotto get a gift decision? i saw cotto in trouble of being stopped by torres but, he turned it around stopped torres fights so what fights are speaking of?
when in the hell did roy jones get a gift decision? all of his victories except two were blowouts...bhop and tarver 1...and bhop said he knew he lost anyway so that couldn't be a robbery...
and I know you didn't even attempt to say that bhop got gift decisions...over who? and if hbo had a chance to take a fight from BHOP they would have a long time ago...that's when he finally got into a fight where his margin of victory wasn't that great they gave it to the other guy (jermain)
and the only questionable PBF fight is castillo 1..and PBF did the gentleman thing and gave Luis a rematch and clearly beat him to erase the so-called gift decision...
so what are you talking about? And people like me? you don't know anything about me and what I say about fighters...I was one of jermains biggest supporters, I want him to be great but not have his career given to him because he's HBO's next show pony...
Re: When Is taylor going to get some balls and Fight FELIX STURM....
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by jman
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by sammiza567
how u gonna say taylor is afraid to fight ppl wow u r stupid...he just fought b-hop twice then winky wright who were both at the top of the p4p list when he fought him
bhop didn't kick his a** the way sturm did..even though it was in the olympics sturm kicked his a** and even dropped him....
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
well sturm was champ before they robbed him and took his belt and undefeated record against oscar just so he and bhop could fight with more postive feedback....
taylor should be wanting to fight sturm seeing as how that's the last person he lost to..and quite bad at that..(2000 olympics)
Strum had the low budget WBO title. Only a fool or a groupie actually considered him a champion.
well he deserved a shot at bhop m,ore than Taylor did, because sturm whooped oscar's a** there was no way that could have been ignored...jermain taylor beat up joppy, who hadn't fought in a year and he gets a shot at bhop? BS...
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Originally Posted by jman
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
well sturm was champ before they robbed him and took his belt and undefeated record against oscar just so he and bhop could fight with more postive feedback....
taylor should be wanting to fight sturm seeing as how that's the last person he lost to..and quite bad at that..(2000 olympics)
Hey. News break. Jermaine says he'd like a few days off to recover from the winky fight but just for you jonesmayweather he'll fight sturm in the streets of memphis tomorrow (sunday) morning. Just for you. ::**
Dumbass i wasn't talking about next week or tonight....there's no need to dwell on another gift decision for JT..and time to start thinking about his next opponent...
I was one of his biggest supporters until he got the courtesy HBO decisions over bhop...and now this winky crap is ridiculous....i wanted him to be great but not have his career given to him because he's hbo's next horse..
So you blame jermaine for hbo's comments? You blame jermaine for trying to give his family a better life? I tell you all this. I have watched boxing for 30 + yrs. None of the last 3 fights of JT's even come close to making an I got robbed list of fights. So what if hes HBO's next horse! Somebody is gonna be. So is Cotto and hes come way closer to losing fights than JT. Do you hate Cotto too? Bhop and Winky and RJJ and Mayweather all do the same thing. They win by controversial decisions and people like you never say one damn word about it being a robbery.
and when did cotto get a gift decision? i saw cotto in trouble of being stopped by torres but, he turned it around stopped torres fights so what fights are speaking of?
when in the hell did roy jones get a gift decision? all of his victories except two were blowouts...bhop and tarver 1...and bhop said he knew he lost anyway so that couldn't be a robbery...
and I know you didn't even attempt to say that bhop got gift decisions...over who? and if hbo had a chance to take a fight from BHOP they would have a long time ago...that's when he finally got into a fight where his margin of victory wasn't that great they gave it to the other guy (jermain)
and the only questionable PBF fight is castillo 1..and PBF did the gentleman thing and gave Luis a rematch and clearly beat him to erase the so-called gift decision...
so what are you talking about? And people like me? you don't know anything about me and what I say about fighters...I was one of jermains biggest supporters, I want him to be great but not have his career given to him because he's HBO's next show pony...
for cotto, demarcus corley had him in clear trouble until out of the blue, the ref stops the fight. PBF is all speed and nothing else. If he ever gets hit, hes hurt. RJJ never did anything in his career but run from the opponent. When he finally stood still long enough to test his chin, tarver Ko'd him and you talk about hbo's boy, RJJ was the posterchild of HBO. People like you, that means I can read your comments and know your way of thinking which is excuse maker. They talk alot but dont ever get anything worth while accomplished. Sorry, thats what I read. Me on the other hand, I tell it like it is no matter how bad or how good, thru thick and thin the truth prevails so you should try it. I'm not here to make friends, just call it what it is and the fight was truely a draw no matter what anyone says.
Re: When Is taylor going to get some balls and Fight FELIX STURM....
I thought Taylor lost today and against Hopkins. He was highly competitive in all three fights though and can't be said to lack balls given the quality of the guys he's fought. Sturm in most people's opinions outboxed Oscar in a competitive fight. Apart from Oscar (who's not any sort of middleweight) who's on Sturm's pro resume?
Do you think he gets the sparring and training that a guy like Taylor can get? Taylor can spar with world class guys in American gyms whenever he wants. He can pay all manner of money for the best sparring partners because he's a major PPV investment for HBO.
You've got to be careful about putting too much faith in amateur results esoecially where American guys or 'next big thing' PPV fighters are concerned. All you could hope for is some enduring psychological advantage as in Lewis-Bowe.
US fighters are often beaten in the Olympics for several reasons. They don't stay amateur for as long as Eastern Europeans. They come forward more (the Cubans seem to be the only ones mature and polished enough to attack in the amateurs without being outpointed by eastern european runners).
The structure of pro boxing in the states sees a great deal of improvement from boxers once they turn pro. Kelson Pinto beat Cotto convincingly in the amateurs and was destroyed when they fought each other. There are many more examples of this.
Sturm is a good fighter but I don't think he gives Taylor as many problems as Wright. He is orthodox, so he won't throw Taylor's jab an offense off, he looks a good deal smaller than Taylor and he's not anymore of a puncher than Wright.
If Sturm can shut out Abraham, I'll start to get more excited about him.
Re: When Is taylor going to get some balls and Fight FELIX STURM....
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Originally Posted by jman
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by jman
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
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Originally Posted by sammiza567
how u gonna say taylor is afraid to fight ppl wow u r stupid...he just fought b-hop twice then winky wright who were both at the top of the p4p list when he fought him
bhop didn't kick his a** the way sturm did..even though it was in the olympics sturm kicked his a** and even dropped him....
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
well sturm was champ before they robbed him and took his belt and undefeated record against oscar just so he and bhop could fight with more postive feedback....
taylor should be wanting to fight sturm seeing as how that's the last person he lost to..and quite bad at that..(2000 olympics)
Strum had the low budget WBO title. Only a fool or a groupie actually considered him a champion.
well he deserved a shot at bhop m,ore than Taylor did, because sturm whooped oscar's a** there was no way that could have been ignored...jermain taylor beat up joppy, who hadn't fought in a year and he gets a shot at bhop? BS...
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Originally Posted by jman
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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
well sturm was champ before they robbed him and took his belt and undefeated record against oscar just so he and bhop could fight with more postive feedback....
taylor should be wanting to fight sturm seeing as how that's the last person he lost to..and quite bad at that..(2000 olympics)
Hey. News break. Jermaine says he'd like a few days off to recover from the winky fight but just for you jonesmayweather he'll fight sturm in the streets of memphis tomorrow (sunday) morning. Just for you. ::**
Dumbass i wasn't talking about next week or tonight....there's no need to dwell on another gift decision for JT..and time to start thinking about his next opponent...
I was one of his biggest supporters until he got the courtesy HBO decisions over bhop...and now this winky crap is ridiculous....i wanted him to be great but not have his career given to him because he's hbo's next horse..
So you blame jermaine for hbo's comments? You blame jermaine for trying to give his family a better life? I tell you all this. I have watched boxing for 30 + yrs. None of the last 3 fights of JT's even come close to making an I got robbed list of fights. So what if hes HBO's next horse! Somebody is gonna be. So is Cotto and hes come way closer to losing fights than JT. Do you hate Cotto too? Bhop and Winky and RJJ and Mayweather all do the same thing. They win by controversial decisions and people like you never say one damn word about it being a robbery.
and when did cotto get a gift decision? i saw cotto in trouble of being stopped by torres but, he turned it around stopped torres fights so what fights are speaking of?
when in the hell did roy jones get a gift decision? all of his victories except two were blowouts...bhop and tarver 1...and bhop said he knew he lost anyway so that couldn't be a robbery...
and I know you didn't even attempt to say that bhop got gift decisions...over who? and if hbo had a chance to take a fight from BHOP they would have a long time ago...that's when he finally got into a fight where his margin of victory wasn't that great they gave it to the other guy (jermain)
and the only questionable PBF fight is castillo 1..and PBF did the gentleman thing and gave Luis a rematch and clearly beat him to erase the so-called gift decision...
so what are you talking about? And people like me? you don't know anything about me and what I say about fighters...I was one of jermains biggest supporters, I want him to be great but not have his career given to him because he's HBO's next show pony...
for cotto, demarcus corley had him in clear trouble until out of the blue, the ref stops the fight. PBF is all speed and nothing else. If he ever gets hit, hes hurt. RJJ never did anything in his career but run from the opponent. When he finally stood still long enough to test his chin, tarver Ko'd him and you talk about hbo's boy, RJJ was the posterchild of HBO. People like you, that means I can read your comments and know your way of thinking which is excuse maker. They talk alot but dont ever get anything worth while accomplished. Sorry, thats what I read. Me on the other hand, I tell it like it is no matter how bad or how good, thru thick and thin the truth prevails so you should try it. I'm not here to make friends, just call it what it is and the fight was truely a draw no matter what anyone says.
cotto stopped chop-chop..he didn't get a gift decision...and roy jones never got his victories handed to him....you know that Roy jones was 36 "when he finally slowed down enough to be hit", and to say that he went his whole career 16 years without having his chin checked...you must not realize that you've just given roy jones a complement...it took 16 years to hit him? he didn't get gift decisions, PBF is all skill, the speed is incidental...
and you still haven't given and example where either of them were given a fight...let alone three fights in which they clearly lost...
you don't tell anything like it is...and nobody care about making friends because they believe Taylor lost...he lost...i saw it ringside and on TV and he really lost once i saw it on TV it looked worse than it did in person...
