Why do People Think Margarito Will Steamroll Mayweather???I dont get it

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Originally Posted by maracho

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Originally Posted by jtrock

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Originally Posted by maracho

Thank you for agreeing JTroc. I mean really, what other boxer in history could get a P4P rating after only fighting mediocre opposition like Zab Judah, Sharmba Mitchell, Arturo Gatti, Henry Bruseles, Demarcus Corley, Philip N’dou, Victoriano Sosa for the last THREE FRIGGIN YEARS.

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Ok maracho who is better p4p then Floyd right now??Who deserves his crown??

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You mean who do I think can kick his boodie? Hmm lets see, I think Margarito, Kostya Tszyu, Joel julio, Oscar, Clottey, Costillo, Colazzo,  can all beat him.

If I were commisioner then we would surely find out.

As for as skills go, I think that Spinks and Eric morales have have as much boxing skills as PBF but that does not mean that they can beat less skilled fighters.

Better P4P (SKILL wise) crowns right now should go to fighters like Hopkins, Toney, Rafael Marquez ,Barrera, Calzaghe, and finally Winky Wright (who showed it in the draw against bigger stronger Taylor)

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1) Julio is an UNPROVEN Prospect

2) Floyd beat Castillo 2x

3) Tszyu is to busy dancing and helping Russian fighters who are down on there luck

4) Clottney???? Dosent even exist in Boxrec

5)Hopkins is a Hall of Famer and one of the best ever but is retired and always had a nitch of his own..Most will agree he hasnt been #1 PFP in about 4 years



6) You must be a Hatton fan and are Trying to make yourself feel better about his questionable win over collazo

7) :lol: :lolhaha: I love James Toney but at heavyweight and 240lbs he is pound for pound baddest man at the buffet

8)Wright to me is in the top 5 PFP

9)Calzaghe needs momentum which unfortunately his body betrays him to often but is a stud anyway top 10 PFP

10)Barrera is on his way down not on his way up albeit he still is a force

11) Margarito is as mobile as a piece of construction equipment and cant keep up with Floyd let alone out box him and anyone who thinks Floyd will stand there all nite and Let Tony hit him is sadly mistaken

All in all I respectfully  agree to disagree on your analysis of Floyd and your PFP

Jt rock,

1. Floyed is unproven in my opinion and Joel Julio will look more impressive than PBF
tonight and against a guy with a better record than those that PBF has been fighting
for the last THREE FRIGGIN YEARS

2.Floyed was given one win with costillo and Costillo has improved greatly and faced
much tougher competition than PBF since their last fight

3.Disrepecting Kostya does not help your argument and he looked much more skilled
againstJudah and Sharmbe than PBF did.

4. Clottey knocked the heck out of Carlos Baldomir and Going by boxrec shows you are a newbie and should bot be so over confident in boxing.

5. If you think Floyed is better than Hopkins than you listen to much to HBO propaganda. Mayweather does not have the spirit to ever do what Hopkins or Toney has done.

6.Hatton could beat Floyed at LIGHT welterweight.

7.Dont judge a book by its cover for a fat little man to do the things that Toney has
done, he must be very skilled

8. Floyed is scared to death of Wright at any weight.

9.Calzaghe's picking apart of Lacey showed more skill than Mayweather ever has.

10.Barrera takes all comers and deserves much more respect than Mayweather because
even after 17 years of pro boxing he still takes on way tougher competition than PBF.

11.PBF is terrified of Margarito so your whole argument fails right there.

Well, I guese got over confident with Julio. shoot he had the most impressive ameteur record that I had ever seen with 80 wins, no losses, and 75 KO's. I just wish PBF took those kind of risks.

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Originally Posted by 1magine

the only way anyone could beat mayweather is by going to the body to take away his speed and mobility.
too many of them go for his head and try to knock him out,
but nobody can land flush enough.
i say slow him down with body shots, thats the only way.....
but then again, mayweather is pretty good at covering up his body....
i think the only way someone could beat floyd is if they had more skill, or alot of luck.

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I totally agree!!! :coolclick:

Attack the body even if you hit the elbowes just puch him in the body and I think IF a big IF you could hit him to the body for about 6-8 rounds he would slow down.

But you also gotta have very very good stamina to finish him off in the later rounds and you also must be able to take a lot of punishment on the way in.

Sounds like hatton-PBF at 140 pounds ;D

Who thinks he's gonna steamroll Mayweather? Not all that many people from what I've seen. Most people seem think Floyd will win easily and then some people think Margarito has a decent shot at winning, but I haven't heard many people say that he'll just flat out dominate Mayweather. I think some people think Floyd is a F****** tiny WW who hasn't fought a natural welter yet and Margarito isn't just a natural welter, he's a huge one that's also relentless and has good power. That being said I think he'll be too slow for Floyd and he doesn't throw straight enough shots, but at least it's a somewhat interesting matchup, its not a Floyd-Sharmba Mitchell type fight.

The only way I could be able to see Tony winning is Floyd tiring late and how many times have you seen that!?

I say its wishful thinking. Everytime someone comes along that is getting alot of attention and heralded as the P4P king people start to hate on them. Every fight that Mayweather has some people hate on him. I heard these same arguments being made when he fought Gatti, about how Gatti is stronger and is going to Knock him out. And when Gatti was utterly dominated all of a sudden Gatti was old and washed up and Mayweather was just an opportunist taking advantage of a fighter well past his prime.

I have seen quite a few Margarito fights and he does have power but haven't we seen that Mayweather can take a shot? He has been hit pretty hard before and he has taken it well. Margarito is alot slower than Mayweather and Mayweather is extremely adept at using his speed to his advantage. I look for Mayweather to win this fight easily.

Mayweather has never given me a reason to doubt his ability and I'm not going to start doubting until he does.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

Who thinks he's gonna steamroll Mayweather? Not all that many people from what I've seen. Most people seem think Floyd will win easily and then some people think Margarito has a decent shot at winning, but I haven't heard many people say that he'll just flat out dominate Mayweather. I think some people think Floyd is a F****** tiny WW who hasn't fought a natural welter yet and Margarito isn't just a natural welter, he's a huge one that's also relentless and has good power. That being said I think he'll be too slow for Floyd and he doesn't throw straight enough shots, but at least it's a somewhat interesting matchup, its not a Floyd-Sharmba Mitchell type fight.

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That's exactly what it is.Also,Margarito doesn't always throw looping punches,he threw plenty of stright ones against Cintron,mixing it with the looping ones which are sooooo unpredictable.Margarito is not fast but I wouldn't say he was slow slow,again,the Kermit fight is an example of that and not just that but JLC have PBF a tough fight and he's not exactly what I'd call fast in terms of handspeed.And you hit the nail on the head again,Tony is a THREAT,something none of Floyd's last opponent;s for the last 3 years have been.CC oUMA.

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Originally Posted by Bx730NY

The only way I could be able to see Tony winning is Floyd tiring late and how many times have you seen that!?

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wELL,he's obviously going to be tired when TOny has been banging on his body for 10 rounds!

Swice,I don't think there was anyway Gatti was going to win and that was completely different,he was beat up,Margarito isn't and Gatti tried to be a boxer???!.Also PBF has never taken a shot from anyone as strong or powerful as Toni,in fact nowehere near and he is not as fast as he was@140.

when mayweather is scared he is easy to hit, he will be scared for a few seconds, and he will robably just run against margarito for those few seconds...

but he will soon get himself togeather and proceed to hide behind his winnings

I'LL say it again "MARGARITO HAS NEVER FACED ANYONE LIKE FLOYD EITHER"

I am not a huge Mayweather Jr. Fan, but, I have to say that since this kids 13th fight, he has fought nothing but good competition. He has proven to be a strong and consistant fighter...I dont see him losing throughout the rest of his career...

Now Margarito.....

This guy needs about 10 good solid competitive fights....No need in padding the record, If he is going to fight someone like Mayweather Jr, then prep for it....Margarito has fought alot of lesser opposition and lost 4 fights to guys he should have easily beat...


Good Luck,

Coach

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Originally Posted by maracho

Jt rock,

1. Floyed is unproven in my opinion and Joel Julio will look more impressive than PBF
tonight and against a guy with a better record than those that PBF has been fighting
for the last THREE FRIGGIN YEARS

2.Floyed was given one win with costillo and Costillo has improved greatly and faced
much tougher competition than PBF since their last fight

3.Disrepecting Kostya does not help your argument and he looked much more skilled
againstJudah and Sharmbe than PBF did.

4. Clottey knocked the heck out of Carlos Baldomir and Going by boxrec shows you are a newbie and should bot be so over confident in boxing.

5. If you think Floyed is better than Hopkins than you listen to much to HBO propaganda. Mayweather does not have the spirit to ever do what Hopkins or Toney has done.

6.Hatton could beat Floyed at LIGHT welterweight.

7.Dont judge a book by its cover for a fat little man to do the things that Toney has
done, he must be very skilled

8. Floyed is scared to death of Wright at any weight.

9.Calzaghe's picking apart of Lacey showed more skill than Mayweather ever has.

10.Barrera takes all comers and deserves much more respect than Mayweather because
even after 17 years of pro boxing he still takes on way tougher competition than PBF.

11.PBF is terrified of Margarito so your whole argument fails right there.

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Really terrified huh?? Well since you know him so personaly to as he feels be sure you get me an autograph next time your at the Mayweather estate..

Julio would beat Floyd.....YEA OK :lolhaha:

Calzaghe vs Lacy HUH??? guess you missed Mayweather vs Gatti...

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Originally Posted by BoxingCoachBW

I am not a huge Mayweather Jr. Fan, but, I have to say that since this kids 13th fight, he has fought nothing but good competition. He has proven to be a strong and consistant fighter...I dont see him losing throughout the rest of his career...

Now Margarito.....

This guy needs about 10 good solid competitive fights....No need in padding the record, If he is going to fight someone like Mayweather Jr, then prep for it....Margarito has fought alot of lesser opposition and lost 4 fights to guys he should have easily beat...


Good Luck,

Coach

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Right on Coach ! I couldnt agree more ! CC