One of the judges scored a round 10-8 for Barrera even without a knock down , which was a sign of how much he was dominating .Quote:
Originally Posted by BK
I also scored it 3- 0 against Morales
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One of the judges scored a round 10-8 for Barrera even without a knock down , which was a sign of how much he was dominating .Quote:
Originally Posted by BK
I also scored it 3- 0 against Morales
Great List CC!
BUT
If you say he didnt avenge losses, and you need to do that to be a great, Why is Oscar and Pernell Whittaker there?
(they are great I might add but they didnt avenge losses. Albeit Pernell was finished, but Oscar twice to Moseley, albeit again controversial, but still in the record books he lost, so in your words earlier, how can he be a great?)
Whitaker revenged the Ramirez defeat. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by B@rr3r@
Oscar de la Hoya/Mosley were two excellent bouts, Mosley sneaked the first, DLH won the second ;)
To be less flippant...
Redemption is not the only quality, all I ask is fighters show the quality. Whitaker showed it by rising from knockdowns to beat Mayweather and Vazquez, and showing despite being way past his best, he can compete with a de la Hoya.
de la Hoya has shown time and again you write him off at your own peril. He was meant to be the Golden Boy when he went the Olympics, and he has lived up to hype. Very few fighters can do that, indeed post 70 perhaps only Ray Leonard and Oscar have. I know the likes of Breland, Banks, Reid and Tarver have all failed, quite badly.
de la Hoya had the sort pressure on him from day one, that perhaps MAB only felt when he fought Junior Jones and the Mexicans were hoping he could become the new Chavez...
No Oscar lost Both
Check the record books....
And Pernell to Tito and Oscar?
What are talking about MAB/Jones or MAB/Morales?Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
I do not remember MAB winning a round 10/8 against Jones, he may of sneak one 10/8 in possibly the first Morales fight. But like I said, I had MAB winning all three fights anyway.
I do not think we have debated beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by B@rr3r@
;) means tongue in cheek... Normally ;)
But he lost....
He didnt avenge the defeates, on his record, which your record is key to being a great, he lost twice to Moseley
And trinidad, but dont get me started, it makes me sad :(
Morales will have the greatest legacy. Barrera losses to Jones and Pac stand out. Morales holds a win over Pac and he destroyed Jones. The 3 fights were all close. But I personally had it 2-0-1 for Morales.
But that is the point, the record books show one thing, your eyes another.Quote:
Originally Posted by B@rr3r@
And as anyones all-time list is a matter of opinion, you are perfectly entitled to put your own opinion into interpreting fight results, to create your list.
What fights were you watching! :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
The third fight should of been a draw. And how you can score the second fight for Marco after he ran for the first 6 rounds is beyond me.Quote:
Originally Posted by B@rr3r@
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I AM BEYOND YOU!
;D
No really, this is the thing you see, everyone maons about people being robbed, but in different fights people see different things.
Like I think Oscar was robbed against trinidad, others dont.
I think Hatton beat Collazo, others dont.
All opinion
OH BK!
I never looked at it that way, your right, I mean to me Oscar beat moseley and Trinidad, but I guess your right, no-one can take Barrera being a great away from me!
I would CC ya but I did an hour ago :lickish:
Im talking about Mab - Jones . One of the judges scored a round 10-8 to Barrera when he didnt score a knockdown .Quote:
Originally Posted by BK
He also had a 10-8 round against Morales in the 1st fight ( round 12 )
Barerra. If he beats Juarez
You must have forgot about Junior JonesQuote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn