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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Memphis
I'm not, all I'm saying is that it is a valid comment the author makes, saying "yes but what about Margarito, or what about Hatton" is iirrelevant they aren't the issue, should they proclaim themselves as #1 then they become the issue ;)
the issue is this.............who is p4p#1 if its not floyd
everybody else has lost
if winky beat jt, then i might be inclined to say its him
outside of him everybody else loses too much, or has really not fought anybody
if floyd fought cintron, then people might have a decent arguement against him being number 1
but at the current time, the only person who really wants to fight him is a nobody himself (tony) and 3 years from now he will be another bruseles after floyds whips him
winky DID beat taylor ;)
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By that Article Zab would be number 3 because he's unified the championships something FLoyd has never done ::**
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Memphis
I'm not, all I'm saying is that it is a valid comment the author makes, saying "yes but what about Margarito, or what about Hatton" is iirrelevant they aren't the issue, should they proclaim themselves as #1 then they become the issue ;)
the issue is this.............who is p4p#1 if its not floyd
everybody else has lost
if winky beat jt, then i might be inclined to say its him
outside of him everybody else loses too much, or has really not fought anybody
if floyd fought cintron, then people might have a decent arguement against him being number 1
but at the current time, the only person who really wants to fight him is a nobody himself (tony) and 3 years from now he will be another bruseles after floyds whips him
winky DID beat taylor ;)
no....... i think that was scored a draw
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Floyd's the best there is at the moment... I've only seen him tested once ( the 1st fight with Castillo ) but he embarrassed him in the rematch. What other fighter out their has fought top compition and been so dominate.
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
Floyd's the best there is at the moment... I've only seen him tested once ( the 1st fight with Castillo ) but he embarrassed him in the rematch. What other fighter out their has fought top compition and been so dominate.
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
Floyd's the best there is at the moment... I've only seen him tested once ( the 1st fight with Castillo ) but he embarrassed him in the rematch. What other fighter out their has fought top compition and been so dominate.
have a cc on me
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i dont have floyd as my p4p king no more...I HAVE PAC AS P4P KING...second winky then j.t then floyd......
winky pac and j.t only fights the best thats why they are my top 3...and the reason why pac is p4p king because of his p4p punching power and speed and p4p excitement and most of all he destroys all oppenent brutally p4p king should do...all of his openents since his been known in america has been dropped by him...so I give it to pac...specially now his boxing and still dropping and countering and still destroying oppenents...and not to mention only 27 years old what a resume and has 40 plus WARS and i mean WAR...he brings it like no one can...
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Originally Posted by Legend KilleR
i dont have floyd as my p4p king no more...I HAVE PAC AS P4P KING...second winky then j.t then floyd......
winky pac and j.t only fights the best thats why they are my top 3...and the reason why pac is p4p king because of his p4p punching power and speed and p4p excitement and most of all he destroys all oppenent brutally p4p king should do...all of his openents since his been known in america has been dropped by him...so I give it to pac...specially now his boxing and still dropping and countering and still destroying oppenents...and not to mention only 27 years old what a resume and has 40 plus WARS and i mean WAR...he brings it like no one can...
amen... OMG, just realized that PAC knocked down most of his recent opponents except in his only loss to Morales in their 1st fight... PAC a 79% KO machine, Floyd at 66% and Winky at 50%. PAC is the real current P4P KING...
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Originally Posted by Legend KilleR
i dont have floyd as my p4p king no more...I HAVE PAC AS P4P KING...second winky then j.t then floyd......
winky pac and j.t only fights the best thats why they are my top 3...and the reason why pac is p4p king because of his p4p punching power and speed and p4p excitement and most of all he destroys all oppenent brutally p4p king should do...all of his openents since his been known in america has been dropped by him...so I give it to pac...specially now his boxing and still dropping and countering and still destroying oppenents...and not to mention only 27 years old what a resume and has 40 plus WARS and i mean WAR...he brings it like no one can...
Pacman's good but has been beaten, his win over Morales was over shadowed because Morales lost to Raheem. Winky doesn't do much. His defense is great but Floyds is proberly better, & Taylor beat an old champ ( who I know beat a overweight champ...Tarver) & in all accounts drew/loss to Wright who was no doing much. Floyds never been beat, & #1 in my eyes
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So what if he's been beaten?
His defeats happened very early in his career with the exception of Morales - who he avenged by KO'ing him (the first man ever to do it).
Dont put too much emphasis on 'unbeaten' records... Thomas Damgaard had something like a 37-0 record before Gatti stopped him..
Dont mean sh*t if you've never fought a dangerous fighter in your career.
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So what if he's been beaten?
His defeats happened very early in his career with the exception of Morales - who he avenged by KO'ing him (the first man ever to do it).
Dont put too much emphasis on 'unbeaten' records... Thomas Damgaard had something like a 37-0 record before Gatti stopped him..
Dont mean sh*t if you've never fought a dangerous fighter in your career.
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Yeah & Floyds record is real, he's fought many dangerous fighters. I'm just saying Mayweather record shows nearly pure dominance, Pacquiao's doesn't.
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P4P is based on numerous factors,not just how well you beat someone,but who you beat too..and there is no comparison between Pac's fights in the last 3 years and Floyds and indeed,Winky's and Floyds. Floyd isn't as impressive as eithers. Also,wow,PBF in undefeated.he should be P4P number 1....err nooooo. Sven Ottke was undefeated too......
And people saying who Margarito has fought etc are clucthing at starws. Is he or is he not the biggest,strongest maost dangerous WW?? So Floyd should be fighting the best to prove he is the best and@147,that ia Tony.And to whoever said Margarito is not on Floyds level...oh so that'sa good reason not to fight him right..That is pathetic.No-one is on Mayweather's level skill wise,so that does that mean he should not fight possible threats?
As for the $8mill offer,Floyd's camp said there were bigger offers, but NO ONE has ever,once said that it was not real,not even Floyd.So where you guys are getting the info..... ::** All I hear are weak ass arguments to attempt to justify if Floyd does not fight Tony
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floyd unbeaten record don't look as good no more as it did...because of what winky and pac has been doing...yea they have lost on thier records but pacs where when he was immature and young and his only true lost was against morales and he ko'ed him in the rematch...plus we can argue all the b.s that went on before pac fought em the first time...as for winky only lost winky has is bad decisions...and the j.t draw was legit...I gotta go with pac as the p4p king because he drops his oppenents and destroyes him no matter who they are...and the way we NEVER HEAR PAC COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY HE GETS...he just whoops as$ and shows the truest fans what a warriors is all about...
IF FLOYD THINK HIS SO GOOD...HE SHOULD FIGHT ANYBODY JUST LIKE WHAT PAC DOES...LIKE A TRUE P4P KING SHOULD DO...
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
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Originally Posted by Legend KilleR
i dont have floyd as my p4p king no more...I HAVE PAC AS P4P KING...second winky then j.t then floyd......
winky pac and j.t only fights the best thats why they are my top 3...and the reason why pac is p4p king because of his p4p punching power and speed and p4p excitement and most of all he destroys all oppenent brutally p4p king should do...all of his openents since his been known in america has been dropped by him...so I give it to pac...specially now his boxing and still dropping and countering and still destroying oppenents...and not to mention only 27 years old what a resume and has 40 plus WARS and i mean WAR...he brings it like no one can...
amen... OMG, just realized that PAC knocked down most of his recent opponents except in his only loss to Morales in their 1st fight... PAC a 79% KO machine, Floyd at 66% and Winky at 50%. PAC is the real current P4P KING...
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YUP PAC IS THE REAL P4P KING...CC FOR BEING SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT...
Re: ESB: Mayweather is a farce!!
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Originally Posted by Legend KilleR
floyd unbeaten record don't look as good no more as it did...because of what winky and pac has been doing...yea they have lost on thier records but pacs where when he was immature and young and his only true lost was against morales and he ko'ed him in the rematch...plus we can argue all the b.s that went on before pac fought em the first time...as for winky only lost winky has is bad decisions...and the j.t draw was legit...I gotta go with pac as the p4p king because he drops his oppenents and destroyes him no matter who they are...and the way we NEVER HEAR PAC COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY HE GETS...he just whoops as$ and shows the truest fans what a warriors is all about...
IF FLOYD THINK HIS SO GOOD...HE SHOULD FIGHT ANYBODY JUST LIKE WHAT PAC DOES...LIKE A TRUE P4P KING SHOULD DO...
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
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Originally Posted by Legend KilleR
i dont have floyd as my p4p king no more...I HAVE PAC AS P4P KING...second winky then j.t then floyd......
winky pac and j.t only fights the best thats why they are my top 3...and the reason why pac is p4p king because of his p4p punching power and speed and p4p excitement and most of all he destroys all oppenent brutally p4p king should do...all of his openents since his been known in america has been dropped by him...so I give it to pac...specially now his boxing and still dropping and countering and still destroying oppenents...and not to mention only 27 years old what a resume and has 40 plus WARS and i mean WAR...he brings it like no one can...
amen... OMG, just realized that PAC knocked down most of his recent opponents except in his only loss to Morales in their 1st fight... PAC a 79% KO machine, Floyd at 66% and Winky at 50%. PAC is the real current P4P KING...
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YUP PAC IS THE REAL P4P KING...CC FOR BEING SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT...
Pac is a people's champ.
Ko'ing legends - real legends.
Barrera and Morales are worth 50 Catillo's.
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P4P is based on lots of things, one is if both fighters were the same weight who would win, now some tell me they believe Pacquiao could beat Mayweather. I can't see how. Put this together with Floyds record, skill, ability & there no doubt he's #1 at the moment
