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Tszyu would be crazy to fight PBF with his long lay off. To me it only makes sense to have a fight with Spinks. No disrespect to Spinks, but it would be the easier championship fight for PBF. Spinks doesnt pack the punch the other belt holders due. PBF has already faced a southpaw with similar speed and skills in Judah and came out with the win. It would be a similar fight with Spinks taking the first third of the fight and then PBF would start to take over and wear Spinks down the rest of the fight. Spinks would have to improve his stamina to stand a chance. After Floyd takes his belt he would have his mega/super unification bout with DLH in May of '07. This scenerio makes to much sense to me, how much bigger would that fight with ODLH be if Floyd came in with a belt. It would be huge!
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I'm sorry,you're the one spouting that PBF is the best P4P and he does that how....oh he should fight the ever threatening Corey Spinks,or Kermit Ciontron or anyone else but Tony!!Anyway,Oscar has a paper belt,why can't he wait until May.And don't insult my intelligence,Spinks should not have and was lucky to get a shot at Karmazin,barely scraped through and should be a man and give Roman a rematch.... there is no way he is more deserving than Tony.
Maybe Floyd should stop running his mouth about business deals because he looks foolish turning down $8million and fighting anyone else for less. Where is the business sense there?(I actually aimed the original post at JTrock ;D)
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How can he be more more desrving of a fight if he has fought once in 2 years?? WTF are you talking about? Stop being so ignorant,you make these statements in a weak attempt to justify the fact that PBF turned down $8mill to fight Tony and he doesn't want any part of Winky either. He'll target someone he knows he can beat at 154 and a Spinks fight would hardly make anything anyway.Who'd pay to see that?
spinks has a legitimate title at 154. tony does not
do you follow boxing much?
do some research.........winky priced himself out of a fight with floyd saying he wouldnt do it for less than half (even though he took less than half for jt). if you followed it at all, you would know floyd has been saying for YEARS that he wants to be the first ever to win 5 titles in 5 different weight classes before hes 30 (times running out for floyd)
read my whole post before you spew ignorant nonsense at me (i had tony as number 1 possibility)
maybe margarito needs to fight an established contender before he starts saying he deserves to get in the ring with the p4p best in the world ;)
i gotta question for the game..........
what have you seen of margarito that makes you think hes so great?
he looked good against kermit, but what else has he done?
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Well I just read on Boxingtalk that PBF will announce his opponent in a week or so, so I've decided to get a gauge on who people think it is. After much deliberation, I truly believe that it is none other than Diego Corrales.
If its not margarito (i hope it is) its probably going to be spinks.
i still think mosely is a possibility, assuming he wins this fight on saturday, i think that he will have a TON of money thrown his way to see if he wont change his mind
sooo.............
1) margarito
2) spinks
3) mosely (i know he already shot it down, but if it were enough money.....)
I highly doubt it is Spinks. Spinks don't deserve a big pay day, and no one really wants to see that fight.
If you say so man, you can hate on Cory all you want he is still a slick southpaw boxer who has skills..Karmazin didnt seem to have a problem with Cory's win sure Cory faded down the Stretch But Karm couldnt execute at all in the fight Forget the Ref stuff too...Only reason Karm was starting to take rounds cause Cory got Fatigued plain and simple and even when Karm was catching Cory it was only one punch at a time for the most part, while Cory was Throwing Combos all nite Karm couldnt Execute bottom line..
Why dosent Cory deserve a Payday??? He beat Judah,Mayorga,Karmazin,Pitriello(or whatever the Italian champs name was) and it would be a good matchup between two slick elusive defensive minded fighters with speed
I'm not saying Cory Will win but it would be a good fight....Lets face it Cory has a better resume than MARGARITO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nah, thats where you wrong. Cory is a fraud. He has a legit win, maybe, I didnt see da fight, against Picarillo. He should have losses to Mayorga, Judah both times, and now Karmazin. But when ya got da judges in your back pocket, it don't work that way. So havin one win against Picarillo, who is a good boxer, but no superstar, does not make him better than Margarito. Floyd should be able to beat Spinks, cus Spinks likes to get brave with guys that are much smaller than him, Judah for example, and would probably do the same thing with Floyd and get popped a lot, cus Floyd IS faster than him, and actually sits down on his punches though. BUT if Spinks starts runnin, Floyd won't be able to catch him. And if its in St. Louis, you might just see Floyds first professional loss.
Hulk I am gonna have to agree to disagree with you respectfully..I just see it a different way than you...
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Tszyu would be crazy to fight PBF with his long lay off. To me it only makes sense to have a fight with Spinks. No disrespect to Spinks, but it would be the easier championship fight for PBF. Spinks doesnt pack the punch the other belt holders due. PBF has already faced a southpaw with similar speed and skills in Judah and came out with the win. It would be a similar fight with Spinks taking the first third of the fight and then PBF would start to take over and wear Spinks down the rest of the fight. Spinks would have to improve his stamina to stand a chance. After Floyd takes his belt he would have his mega/super unification bout with DLH in May of '07. This scenerio makes to much sense to me, how much bigger would that fight with ODLH be if Floyd came in with a belt. It would be huge!
Didn't think of it like that, Floyd grabs Spinks' belt in Nov and then grabs another belt from Ouma or whoever in Feb and then the ODLH is now the undisputed championship of the world at 154.
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I see a power punching machine,a massive WW,with endless stamina,with the ability to adjust in a fight,to utilise a jab etc etc. Styles make fights,and I just believe Tony is too big,too strong for Floyd and at the very least,Tony may lose on points,but he'll push Floyd all the way. He's more relentless than JLC,who in my and most people's opinions beat Floyd the first time. Margarito already stated that he'll break Floyd's body down,that is something NONE of his other opponents have even thought of doing,going to the body and along with all the above factors mentioned,makes me believe that he will give Floyd a great fight...far far better than anyone Floyd has fought since JLC and better than anyone else at 147 by a long long way.
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I think Tszyu would be brilliant ! honestly. I would love to that fight ! it would be good revenue! and good for boxing! Kostya is good people , id like to see him get the opportunity to fight Mayweather and then Hatton one more time in OZ or the States !
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I see a power punching machine,a massive WW,with endless stamina,with the ability to adjust in a fight,to utilise a jab etc etc. Styles make fights,and I just believe Tony is too big,too strong for Floyd and at the very least,Tony may lose on points,but he'll push Floyd all the way. He's more relentless than JLC,who in my and most people's opinions beat Floyd the first time. Margarito already stated that he'll break Floyd's body down,that is something NONE of his other opponents have even thought of doing,going to the body and along with all the above factors mentioned,makes me believe that he will give Floyd a great fight...far far better than anyone Floyd has fought since JLC and better than anyone else at 147 by a long long way.
good analysis, cc for you (eventhough i disagree)
hopefully this has all been a bunch of hype, and the fight does happen at some point
floyd wants the belt, though. apparantly hes making his announcement next week, so im just gonna have to wait and see before i start dumping on his choice of opponents, seeing as how the last fights he pushed for was oscar, then mosely.
and there was never any sort of talks between mayweather and cintron, it was boxrec nonsense ;)
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I see a power punching machine,a massive WW,with endless stamina,with the ability to adjust in a fight,to utilise a jab etc etc. Styles make fights,and I just believe Tony is too big,too strong for Floyd and at the very least,Tony may lose on points,but he'll push Floyd all the way. He's more relentless than JLC,who in my and most people's opinions beat Floyd the first time. Margarito already stated that he'll break Floyd's body down,that is something NONE of his other opponents have even thought of doing,going to the body and along with all the above factors mentioned,makes me believe that he will give Floyd a great fight...far far better than anyone Floyd has fought since JLC and better than anyone else at 147 by a long long way.
good analysis, cc for you (eventhough i disagree)
hopefully this has all been a bunch of hype, and the fight does happen at some point
floyd wants the belt, though. apparantly hes making his announcement next week, so im just gonna have to wait and see before i start dumping on his choice of opponents, seeing as how the last fights he pushed for was oscar, then mosely.
and there was never any sort of talks between mayweather and cintron, it was boxrec nonsense ;)
CC back,and dang,I did a pretty good job of selling Margarito didn't I!!?! Like I maintain,I like PBF,he is an IMMENSE talent,I just don't want to see him waste it on the likes of Gatti,Brusseles etc, He is at his peak,go,seek out the big names and beat them all!! I actually believe that the Cintron thing may still have some truth,it comes from an interview with Manny Steward who said he would tarin Cintron to beat Floyd and that there were negotiations. Someone posted it here,the thread where it says something about Steward! Check it out!
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I see a power punching machine,a massive WW,with endless stamina,with the ability to adjust in a fight,to utilise a jab etc etc. Styles make fights,and I just believe Tony is too big,too strong for Floyd and at the very least,Tony may lose on points,but he'll push Floyd all the way. He's more relentless than JLC,who in my and most people's opinions beat Floyd the first time. Margarito already stated that he'll break Floyd's body down,that is something NONE of his other opponents have even thought of doing,going to the body and along with all the above factors mentioned,makes me believe that he will give Floyd a great fight...far far better than anyone Floyd has fought since JLC and better than anyone else at 147 by a long long way.
good analysis, cc for you (eventhough i disagree)
hopefully this has all been a bunch of hype, and the fight does happen at some point
floyd wants the belt, though. apparantly hes making his announcement next week, so im just gonna have to wait and see before i start dumping on his choice of opponents, seeing as how the last fights he pushed for was oscar, then mosely.
and there was never any sort of talks between mayweather and cintron, it was boxrec nonsense ;)
CC back,and dang,I did a pretty good job of selling Margarito didn't I!!?! Like I maintain,I like PBF,he is an IMMENSE talent,I just don't want to see him waste it on the likes of Gatti,Brusseles etc, He is at his peak,go,seek out the big names and beat them all!! I actually believe that the Cintron thing may still have some truth,it comes from an interview with Manny Steward who said he would tarin Cintron to beat Floyd and that there were negotiations. Someone posted it here,the thread where it says something about Steward! Check it out!
thanks for the tip.....ill start looking for the article
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http://www.boxing2004.com/BoxingExclusive.com/index.htm
Follow the link!!! Steward talkiing about training Cintron to beat Floyd....
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I see a power punching machine,a massive WW,with endless stamina,with the ability to adjust in a fight,to utilise a jab etc etc. Styles make fights,and I just believe Tony is too big,too strong for Floyd and at the very least,Tony may lose on points,but he'll push Floyd all the way. He's more relentless than JLC,who in my and most people's opinions beat Floyd the first time. Margarito already stated that he'll break Floyd's body down,that is something NONE of his other opponents have even thought of doing,going to the body and along with all the above factors mentioned,makes me believe that he will give Floyd a great fight...far far better than anyone Floyd has fought since JLC and better than anyone else at 147 by a long long way.
Well if he EVER fights at least 1 REPUTABLE fighter then I'll buy into it
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If this article turns out to be true,then we will all know PBF is a sham because after promising mega fights and turning down $8mill to fight Kermit and Carlos,that would be a joke.
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good article, but i hope its wrong
im praying that mayweathers next fight isnt baldomir or cintron.
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I'm sorry,you're the one spouting that PBF is the best P4P and he does that how....oh he should fight the ever threatening Corey Spinks,or Kermit Ciontron or anyone else but Tony!!Anyway,Oscar has a paper belt,why can't he wait until May.And don't insult my intelligence,Spinks should not have and was lucky to get a shot at Karmazin,barely scraped through and should be a man and give Roman a rematch.... there is no way he is more deserving than Tony.
Maybe Floyd should stop running his mouth about business deals because he looks foolish turning down $8million and fighting anyone else for less. Where is the business sense there?(I actually aimed the original post at JTrock ;D)
Listen man you do a lot of Floyd hating dont you!!!!!! I mean C'mon dude you are smart enough to know that its a business 1st before they get in the ring......You know just as much as me when it equates to whtas going on behind closed doors which is NOTHING!!!!!!
Here is the Facts Tony Hasnt done SHIT against anyone!!!
Floyd is the #1 pound for pound fighter in the world that my friend is universally recognized by various sports writers and Boxing analystis you know people who get paid to write about boxing not forum goers like BOTH OF US
Here are some more interesting FACTS FLoyd has beat better competition than Margarito so has Zab Judah , Cory Spinks , Sharmba Mitchell and even Arturo Gatti..
But back to my point all this shit on the net is all heresay and rumors WE dont know whats really going on PERIOD!!!