Like I said before..at 147 sugar is the only one who can beat PBF...

I'd like to see Mosley fight PBF as soon as possible, he's Shane fukin Mosley he doesn't need any tune up fights to re adjust to 147. He's a blown up lightweight to begin with. But if he were to fight a guy at 147, I wouldn't mind seein him beat on Paul Williams to get ready for Floyd.

Im not sure he will beat him but im sure it would be a damn good fight!

anybody that mentions winky beating shane as a reason for pbf beating shane is stupid....winky is much larger than shane and would do the same to floyd in fact he'd probably stop floyd...but at 147 shane will be the more elusive one and the one with more power because he'll be coming down..floyd however has began to believe that he can sit in the pocket and catch punches all night since putting on the weight he doesn't move enough anymore to beat shane and iif he sits in the pocket with shane he will get hurt...pbf doesn't have the power to hurt shane...but shane has the speed and power to hurt pbf....someone mentioned that vargas was ruined by the tito lost...point is shane ko'ed him and he's not even a legit 154pounder...pbf could do that on his best night with his best punch...mosely at 147 ko's judah inside of 3...floyd never even wobbled him that's with his ruined post KT chin....

I've been saying this for months now..shane could beat floyd at 147...and the only reason most are saying shane couldn't win is because they're judging him based off what they've been seeing at 154...at 147 mosely will hurt floyd..period...

Disagree. If Mayweather would have been at 147 five years ago, I might go with Mosley then, but Shane now isn't the same fighter he was then, I don't care what he did to Vargas. It's like people getting all excited about Oscar after beating Mayorga, another washed up hasbeen. Mosley is not nearly as fast as he was, and people thinking that him moving down in weight is all he needs to regain that speed are being naive. Once it's gone, it's gone. The guy's in his mid 30s, old for a boxer, and hasn't been in the ring with anyone as skilled as Floyd. Mosley has crazy skills 5 years ago, but now, it won't be anything Floyd hasn't seen before. Mayweather would breeze by him for an easy UD.

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Disagree. If Mayweather would have been at 147 five years ago, I might go with Mosley then, but Shane now isn't the same fighter he was then, I don't care what he did to Vargas. It's like people getting all excited about Oscar after beating Mayorga, another washed up hasbeen. Mosley is not nearly as fast as he was, and people thinking that him moving down in weight is all he needs to regain that speed are being naive. Once it's gone, it's gone. The guy's in his mid 30s, old for a boxer, and hasn't been in the ring with anyone as skilled as Floyd. Mosley has crazy skills 5 years ago, but now, it won't be anything Floyd hasn't seen before. Mayweather would breeze by him for an easy UD.

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Great post except the part about Oscar being " another washed up hasbeen" easy mate ! Oscar is tops, everyone has these preposterous comments about the top fighters , based on what? moving up to 160 and getting beat by Hopkins??? Oscar at 147 is a top dog !

I said Mayorga is a washed up hasbeen, not Oscar.

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I misunderstood what you were saying.. Good post !

Can we not overrate Mosley because he knocked out Vargas please. What he did was use his jab a lot more often but he also still got hit with a lead right whenever Vargas decided to throw it and Vargas is much slower then Mayweather.

I would love to see the Mayweather Mosley fight, but c'mon he just beat Vargas..Vargas who is completely different then Mayweather in terms of skill speed and ability, Vargas only has an edge in power.

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Can we not overrate Mosley because he knocked out Vargas please. What he did was use his jab a lot more often but he also still got hit with a lead right whenever Vargas decided to throw it and Vargas is much slower then Mayweather.

I would love to see the Mayweather Mosley fight, but c'mon he just beat Vargas..Vargas who is completely different then Mayweather in terms of skill speed and ability, Vargas only has an edge in power.

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:o :o :o Starr talking sense and not being biased towards her fav fighters :o CC,totally agree,excellent points. Mosley beats Vargas,a battle worn,turtle slow Vargas and now he can beat the Pretty One. No way. Not until we see what he is made of@147.

Its not the fact that he beat Vargas , its the way he fought . His combos were fast , he used his feet , he countered well , he hardly got hit and whens the last time you saw a 154 lb guy thatr quick ? A move down to welter will take the bulk off him and hel surely be quicker .

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Its not the fact that he beat Vargas , its the way he fought . His combos were fast , he used his feet , he countered well , he hardly got hit and whens the last time you saw a 154 lb guy thatr quick ? A move down to welter will take the bulk off him and hel surely be quicker .

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Maybe he looked so fast because Vargas was so slow?He hasn't looked anywhere near that good for a long long time. I want to see him@147 before jumping to conclusions about him beating Floyd.

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Its not the fact that he beat Vargas , its the way he fought . His combos were fast , he used his feet , he countered well , he hardly got hit and whens the last time you saw a 154 lb guy thatr quick ? A move down to welter will take the bulk off him and hel surely be quicker .

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Maybe he looked so fast because Vargas was so slow?He hasn't looked anywhere near that good for a long long time. I want to see him@147 before jumping to conclusions about him beating Floyd.

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I still need to be convinced by Floyd beforew I make conclusions about him beating Shane or any world class fighter for that matter

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I said Mayorga is a washed up hasbeen, not Oscar.

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don't know what you base this on, because he still had one of the best chins in boxing, his skills were as shitty against Oscar as they were back when he blew Six Heads Lewis away, and when he beat Forrest to win his world title and then defend it, Mayorga pushed Trinidad and then managed to win a world title after being stopped, he's not an all around great but he still can outslug and give trouble to a lot of fighters out there, don't know about you but i'd like to see a Mayorga/Margarito fight

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don't know what you base this on, because he still had one of the best chins in boxing, his skills were as shitty against Oscar as they were back when he blew Six Heads Lewis away, and when he beat Forrest to win his world title and then defend it, Mayorga pushed Trinidad and then managed to win a world title after being stopped, he's not an all around great but he still can outslug and give trouble to a lot of fighters out there, don't know about you but i'd like to see a Mayorga/Margarito fight

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I second that...... times ten!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D

another great thread that some may have forgotten.... this is very relevant