Nazem Hammed Vs Manny Paquiao

Murad Muhammad can answer it! :)

i'd like to say naz but i really aint gotta clue.

how good was naz ??? was barrera just an off night ???

if naz came back after barrera, and continued to fight, not just 1 fight outpointing the spaniard, calvo was it ??? could he have beaten barrera or would he have always been second best

Hamed was at his worst on the Barerra fight but its his own fault.

if he stayed with brendan ingle i think he would of dominated for years

but of course like to many boxers now they think there better of on there own with the yes men

A thread was opended on this yesterday folks ;)

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...c,34752.0.html

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Originally Posted by the_answer

naz cant take the punches of MAB what more of pacs?
you can disregard both of pacs early losses, those where against bums
the only loss he had was against EM.. you all know what happened then...

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I totally agree with you bro! good point of view!

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Originally Posted by Majesty

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Originally Posted by BK

MAB showed the way to beat Naseem.

The trick is fight him in your own 'envelope', and no matter what he does, do not attempt to hit him if he is not in that 'envelope', even if you think you can, because it is a trick.

If Pacquiao followed that tactic he would of won, but would he have the discipline to do it?

Of course the other part to MAB's plan was if Naz was still on his feet in the final round, ram him head first into a turnbuckle ;)

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The problem is, Pacquiao fights 180 degrees from that style. He would be roaming forward. And really I was youtubing them both and then I saw this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_IYM8qapEA

And now I'm not so sure, if Pacquiao got hit like that which he probably would, he may not recover

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You have to consider the quality of opponents. Lawal, the African opponent of Hamed in that video isn't really top tierred. Besides, Hamed at 5'41/2 is even bigger than this Nigerian. Note that Pacquiao is even bigger at 5'6". Watch this pacman fight against Jorge Eliecer Julio, a former 2 time world champ and then tell me what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwGII...cquiao%20julio

pac by ko in the 6th if he can catch naz, but if naz catches pac.......might be trouble for pacman...

pacs jab jab straight left would force naz to keep his hands up thus messing up naz style of fighting.

naz would need;

JMM heart just to last with pac
morales mental toughness to perform at his best

and he has neither of those...if he got in the same ring with pac...he is fowck...pac fights bigger guys too and look what he does with them...a smaller naz would shyt himself against relentless pacman...it'll be a worst beating then em and mab recieve by pac combine...

naz only fight against an elite(barrera) he got expose and choke...the pressure of just the name pacman would make him terrified...it'll be a bad fight...pac would murder him.......

I did watch the Marquez Pacquiao fight and even the Larios Pacquiao fight, Pacquiao is wide open to counter shots and Hamed would catch him. I think you forget the only person to beat Hamed did it by staying back and NOT forcing the action or trading with him which are 2 things Pacquiao would do and get knocked out for.

i wonder if naz can still throw a strong counter after he eats a punch from pac. it didnt happened for mab,jmm or em all are decent counter punchers. the fighter who lands a punch first always has the advantage!
i heard it alot of times, that pacs head on assault would be perfect for so and so that pacs gonna be kod for that. does pacs style put him into trouble? not! lets not forget also that in every fight hes style improves alot. everyone he fought taught they can beat pac because he is so easy to counter. but ended up losing because they cant take pacs punches.

he didn't look improved against Larios, it looked like he lead with the same 3 punch combo jab left hand jab and an occasional left or right hook when he was close inside.

Pacman

pac is deff open to counters but since the 1st morales fight. pacs learned a few tricks right out of Nard's book to deal with counters. people expect him to just jump in at people but now he does some faints to lure counters and then throw his lead(just like in Nard-tarver) and unload a combination. its one of the few reasons EM and Larios coundnt see the punches coming.

but the fight between Naz-Pac can go either way NazTKO/PacTKO..Naz has never dealt with a fighter as fast and as relentless with as much power as pac..while Pacs never fought a fighter as awkward, as tricky(he might get into pacs head) and with as much power...neither have a weak chin and neither has a weak heart(Naz left the fight game cuz he had all the money he wanted and lost his interrest in boxing even before the MAB fight)