- yet another foreigner robbed in the US, Sultan Ibragimov

i think it was on boxing after dark... not sure but fair point theres certainly not alot of genuine contenders in the heavywieght division i mean it wasnt billed as a big fight and it was a title eliminator.
also does anyone know anything about the rumours david haye is moving to the heavy wieght division because fairly soon i think he could dominate given the right fights and opportunity's

Yes there are MANY contenders given the lack of big time fights being made due to DK's fighters being protected...and yeah it's JUST Don King's fighters being protected hell look at their next match ups and you'll see the guys with tougher more dangerous fights aren't Don King fighters.

Wlad is the only heavyweight legitmatly trying to prove himself

Rahman seems to want the big fights too Maskaev is older but still considering what he did to him last time it's a good fight

Valuev and Lyahkovich are fighting BUMS and that won't change


Haye might be able to survive vs the smaller guys but I don't see anything special in him at cruiser much less heavyweight...I mean if stamina is an issue at less than 200 then it'll grow as he does

fair point about haye.

i reckon the toney-peters fight may well be good. n yer there are too many fighters bieng protected, i mean i have to see this beast from the east face off againt one the legitamately powerful heavyweight contenders see how good he really is cos i mean who couldnt beat ruiz? i mean for a while i figured i mite call out jonny boy lol, another thing that anoys me bout ruiz is his name , the quiet man, ive never seen a man like him who opens his gob and shite drops out,hes pretty much pathetic

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Originally Posted by body head banger

fair point about haye.

i reckon the toney-peters fight may well be good. n yer there are too many fighters bieng protected, i mean i have to see this beast from the east face off againt one the legitamately powerful heavyweight contenders see how good he really is cos i mean who couldnt beat ruiz? i mean for a while i figured i mite call out jonny boy lol, another thing that anoys me bout ruiz is his name , the quiet man, ive never seen a man like him who opens his gob and shite drops out,hes pretty much pathetic

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Ruiz was boring as fuk and loved to hold but check his resume you'll see he beat some pretty good fighters. Has bigger wins than even the mighty Klitschko. Rahman, Holyfield. Oquendo, Golota etc.

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Originally Posted by Cory Booker

Yet another foreign fighter was robbed in the US last night. Why do the public accept that the refs and the judges always protect and help US fighters against guest boxers?

Maybe guest boxers to the US should do like Jeff Lacy did when he fought in Europe – he brought his own ref!.....

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hi royal... ::**

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Originally Posted by Cory Booker

Generally the US judges are more corrupt than the city of Newark under Mayor Sharp James

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Please man there ar plenty of US fighters that have gotten the shaft in Europe, so stop your pissing and moaning...

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Byron Mitchell - Sven Ottke anyone? Don't bother with him jtrock, he's just another racist ;)

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thats alright brother, It amuses me(Royal) Its like picking on a drunk idiot :coolclick: Thanks for the admonishment though

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who did sultan fight?

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He fought Ray Austin, a real "big" (6' 6", 250 Lbs.) awkward dude. It was a draw, but I felt the Russian had the edge and stunned the giant three times; floored him once. A fair ESPN Friday night fight to watch; both would be KOed by Wladimir Klitschko or Nikolai Valuev. As a matter of fact, Samuel Peter could take both out. :-\

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The fight was horrible & to classify Ray Austin as "a real "big" (6' 6", 250 Lbs.) awkward dude" is way off mark.

He's big...but he aint awkward.

Ibrag is not going to meet his hype & that was no robbery.

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lets not forget the fact that Sultan himself suffered a 10-8 round in that fight as well.....the fight was called correctly....

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Originally Posted by maracho

I agree that a lot of forreign boxers are getting robbed by judges and cheated by refs and I have posted here about this very thing.

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this was by far not a robbery......not even close...just be glad they didn't count the second knockdown of sultan......he should be happy with the draw....