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MY fav Boxers of all time are :
Rocky marciano
Jack Dempsey
OScar Delahoya
Kostya Tyszu
Mike Tyson in his prime
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only HW to retire undefeated
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wasn't Armstrong only at the top for a couple years?
And what about the Nard and Toney, they must be creep in surely?
Armstrong was a World Champion/title holder from 1936 to 1940. In 1937 he went 27-0 (26) against opposition with a combined 1,000+ wins...
Don't forget also held 3 world titles at the same time.
You mean he held titles at 3 different weights at the same time!
Not as big a deal as it sounds though really as back in his day you didn't need to relinquish your titles at one weight if you moved up.
Just consider that Mayweather and Roy Jones would have held titles at 4 different weights at the same time if the same rule applied ;)
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my favourite boxer is amir khan man
im gonna be him one day trust me hes da person who made me intrested in boxin and watch me go far cause of him thnx amir!
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my favourite boxer is amir khan man
im gonna be him one day trust me hes da person who made me intrested in boxin and watch me go far cause of him thnx amir!
If you dont wake up now, someone will very soon!
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SIMPLE
*see below 8)
nicely done! ;)
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The greatest is just to hard to narrow down,
but one of my favorite fighters was Azumah Nelson
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wasn't Armstrong only at the top for a couple years?
And what about the Nard and Toney, they must be creep in surely?
Armstrong was a World Champion/title holder from 1936 to 1940. In 1937 he went 27-0 (26) against opposition with a combined 1,000+ wins...
Don't forget also held 3 world titles at the same time.
You mean he held titles at 3 different weights at the same time!
Not as big a deal as it sounds though really as back in his day you didn't need to relinquish your titles at one weight if you moved up.
Just consider that Mayweather and Roy Jones would have held titles at 4 different weights at the same time if the same rule applied ;)
As there was only one champion per division back then I didn't think that needed to be stated, but no one else had or has ever done it. Jones was only Lightheavy world champion & Mayweather was Jr. Lightweight & Lightweight world champion. Jones & Mayweather have never fought at those weights again since moving up. Armstrong let the featherweight title go, but defended the lightweight title against Ambers (who he lost the title to) & Feldman, & continued to defend the welter championship. The feat was pretty remarkable & may never be repeated again.
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I'd have to say Roy Jones. Seriously, used to hate him for several reasons and none of them had to do with his abilitly. I love the man now (in a totally straight way).
My number 2? George Foreman. Bring it. lol
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If the question is "who is the greatest boxer of all time" then theres one answer IMHO. Ali. I think whilst Great is something you achieve in the ring its also something increased out of the ring. Our Sport has a bad enough rap now. It needs Ambassadors, Its why Tyson just about creeps into my top 10 HWs list. The man did nothing good for the sport outside the ring, despite the fact he was a phenomenon in it.
Ali was too. I never get tired of watching The Thrilla.., or Rumble.. Ever. Add what the man has done away from the ring that reflects well on the sport and my mind is made up.
Cool Click for you sir. :coolclick: Excellent point about the sport needing Ambassadors.
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Carlos Monzon
Cool click for you sir. Monzon was a stone cold legend, and arguably the greatest middleweight ever. Sadly many people forget about himin the mix.
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If the question is "who is the greatest boxer of all time" then theres one answer IMHO. Ali. I think whilst Great is something you achieve in the ring its also something increased out of the ring. Our Sport has a bad enough rap now. It needs Ambassadors, Its why Tyson just about creeps into my top 10 HWs list. The man did nothing good for the sport outside the ring, despite the fact he was a phenomenon in it.
Ali was too. I never get tired of watching The Thrilla.., or Rumble.. Ever. Add what the man has done away from the ring that reflects well on the sport and my mind is made up.
Cool Click for you sir. :coolclick: Excellent point about the sport needing Ambassadors.
I'll say this, I was in an elevator at work the other day, kind of in a shitty mood. Some guys who you could tell were casual fans and nothing more were talking about Ali and how no other boxer in the history of the sport could touch him blah blah blah, without thinking I snickered in the most rude and smart ass way I knew how. Least to say they quit talking and I felt like a dick afterward. The thing is, if you're talking strictly abilities in the ring and not achievements outside of it IMO (and quite a few others) Ali doesn't come close to many of the fighters I've seen. No doubt he's the biggest name boxing has ever seen, simply because of the time period he was in. The use of draft dodging combined with the whole muslim religion front made him the huge icon he is. He was just a normal guy who was just as much a sinner as everyone else on here, and was nothing more than excited about the idea of being a muslim - but the people took it one step further and built him up to be this living god. Do you really believe that if Ali had fought in this era he would be beloved in the same way? No, the second he said he was a muslim we'd all say ok, you wanna fly a plane into my house?
one of the greatest heavyweights of all time easily, but heavyweight is the keyword
just an opinion tho, could easily be wrong :-\
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Originally Posted by SouthLondon
If the question is "who is the greatest boxer of all time" then theres one answer IMHO. Ali. I think whilst Great is something you achieve in the ring its also something increased out of the ring. Our Sport has a bad enough rap now. It needs Ambassadors, Its why Tyson just about creeps into my top 10 HWs list. The man did nothing good for the sport outside the ring, despite the fact he was a phenomenon in it.
Ali was too. I never get tired of watching The Thrilla.., or Rumble.. Ever. Add what the man has done away from the ring that reflects well on the sport and my mind is made up.
Cool Click for you sir. :coolclick: Excellent point about the sport needing Ambassadors.
I'll say this, I was in an elevator at work the other day, kind of in a shitty mood. Some guys who you could tell were casual fans and nothing more were talking about Ali and how no other boxer in the history of the sport could touch him blah blah blah, without thinking I snickered in the most rude and smart a** way I knew how. Least to say they quit talking and I felt like a dick afterward. The thing is, if you're talking strictly abilities in the ring and not achievements outside of it IMO (and quite a few others) Ali doesn't come close to many of the fighters I've seen. No doubt he's the biggest name boxing has ever seen, simply because of the time period he was in. The use of draft dodging combined with the whole muslim religion front made him the huge icon he is. He was just a normal guy who was just as much a sinner as everyone else on here, and was nothing more than excited about the idea of being a muslim - but the people took it one step further and built him up to be this living god. Do you really believe that if Ali had fought in this era he would be beloved in the same way? No, the second he said he was a muslim we'd all say ok, you wanna fly a plane into my house?
one of the greatest heavyweights of all time easily, but heavyweight is the keyword
just an opinion tho, could easily be wrong :-\
agreed my friend.
Ali was good, ali was great but not the greatest, his reputation is built on the era, his awesome personallity i mean he was cocky no doubt he had charisma but was he undefeated ..no did he have titles in different wieght classes ..no
i think its cos yeh he knocks out liston in the round he predicted he did alot for boxing and the whole muslim thing.. and yes he was one of the greatest if not the greatest heavywieghts but certainly not the greatest boxer and it bewilders me that the casual fan or even the boxing fanatic will say well roy has lost 3 fights and hes no longer great but ali is thought of as you said nearly in god like proportions and should have damaged his legacy for staying in the business far longer than he should have! but is stil thought of as the greatest, far from it.. i'd like to see the tough assed lighter boxing warriors get some recognition liek chavez, duran (mainstream, he is a legend to most fanatics) and others like them.
jus my opinion baby :P
