Re: Urango confirms Hatton fight!!!
id like to see him fight once more at that weight before i start judging mate
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Originally Posted by bigragu
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
no matter how close it was hatton still won i think hatton edged it on knockdown and dont doubt hatton that was hes first fight at that weight id wait and see hes next fight at that weight before u start doubting him
by him tuck tail and going back down to 140 how are we supposed to judge him? He has not challenged anyone but PBF(for money) other than that what has he shown us at 147? That he can be hurt by the lightest of punchers? or that the transition is simply too much for him? Either way it can now be assumed that Hatton was and will never be in the leagues of PBF, Baldomir or even Gatti(yeah, I said it!!). at least these guys had the ability to step up and hold their own. I won't bring up past fighters like ODLH, Duran, Leonard etc.....
Think your jumping the gun judging him like that at this stage, old son. I'm sure he'll happily move back up if the right fights can be made in the future, and considering the best win for the guys you mention as being in a different leauge to him, since moving up, has been against Kostya Tsyzu victims - who I'm sure you know Ricky beat the fuck out of - must count for something?
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by Preme
So if hatton believes WW is to much for him, and steps back down to where he can be at is best, thats wrong? thats what most of you are saying?
Can you just point out to me where these guys are ranked in the World Ricky is fighting at the moment? the level of opposistion is the problem mate, there all sub standard world class opponents, maybe 1 out of three fights you get away with but 3/3? Collazo broguht the sothpaw problems to the table in my opinion, but he is not World Class, i would struggle to put him in the top 10 at 147, Maussa is pathetic lets be honest i thought ok let him pick up an easy belt after the biggest fight of his life, but now he is again fighting the poorest champion at 140 and 147? wtf? Why? Hatton is slowly going down the p4p rankings at this rate, have a look at people like Corrales and Castillo and check the resume out over the past years they fight the best around for hand pick the easiset option out there.
I love Ricky to bits but this fight is a joke i couldnt give to shits if the IBF Belt was ont he line, the guy won a gift decision and now Hatton similar to Maussa is coming to mop up the pieces. There are 5/6 guys out there who would make a great fight but it looks like Ricky and his team dont want to risk the 0 and make the $$ while they can which is not good for the sport.
Bro Hattons opposition has been ranked quite high to be honest, Maussa was #3 at Jr. Welter I think at the time, Collazo was #4 at Welter when they fought, plus Tszyu before those two who was champion ay Jr. W. Urango ain't currently ranked but after three fights against top 10 opposition he can be afforded an easy one.
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by bigragu
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no matter how close it was hatton still won i think hatton edged it on knockdown and dont doubt hatton that was hes first fight at that weight id wait and see hes next fight at that weight before u start doubting him
by him tuck tail and going back down to 140 how are we supposed to judge him? He has not challenged anyone but PBF(for money) other than that what has he shown us at 147? That he can be hurt by the lightest of punchers? or that the transition is simply too much for him? Either way it can now be assumed that Hatton was and will never be in the leagues of PBF, Baldomir or even Gatti(yeah, I said it!!). at least these guys had the ability to step up and hold their own. I won't bring up past fighters like ODLH, Duran, Leonard etc.....
Think your jumping the gun judging him like that at this stage, old son. I'm sure he'll happily move back up if the right fights can be made in the future, and considering the best win for the guys you mention as being in a different leauge to him, since moving up, has been against Kostya Tsyzu victims - who I'm sure you know Ricky beat the fuck out of - must count for something?
Kostya did, of course, have a shoulder that was injured so bad that he required immediate major surgery right after that fight. . . . And I wouldn't say "beat the fuck out of" either. I had Hatton up by a point or two when Kostya quit. And Hatton should have had at least one point deduction for all the fouling too. If he's scared to go back to 147 and give Collazo the rematch he promised, let's see him fight Castillo at 140. I guarantee he'll lose.
Re: Urango confirms Hatton fight!!!
Most of u r so quick to rite of hatton just cos hes thought a few lesser opposition recently in Collazo nd maussa and like galaxy said they where top 10 ranked at the time plus Collazo was a step up in weight and a natural WW who is a southpaw. But when cotto fights Branco,Mallinagi,Torres who are supposed to be easy fights he almost gets knocked out by torres then struggles to beat paulie, there all considerd to be good fighters even though torres had only thought in columbia for most of his career nd paulie who most people said would not go past the 6th but not collazo nd why is that cos theres to many hatton hatters who r still sore about him destroying tszyu. Nd when u look at all the great fighters past nd present they all have alot of fights with lesser oppositionos y is hatton being slated so bad for it?
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What an absolute joke.. It's so funny that things like this can even happen.. Like we are just supposed to forget that he was easily outboxed and lost the title shot they hand fed him... And talk about a step backwards for Hatton, it would be comical if this bout happens... NEver have I seen a fighter pull such a total 180 without officially suffering a loss.. I mean honestly, if this fight happens, Hatton is basically chickenshit as far as Im concerned... He vacated this very title probably a year ago to move up and get the bigger fights at welter, then he basically loses to an unknown but still escapes with a belt, now he drops back down to fight someone who just did the very same thing... Only Hatton won the very belt legitimately in the first place.
and what drugs are you on? you dont have to like hatton, yes it was close and yes he was hurt but he won,
Re: Urango confirms Hatton fight!!!
I have been waiting for this fight for a long time. ::**
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Most of u r so quick to rite of hatton just cos hes thought a few lesser opposition recently in Collazo nd maussa and like galaxy said they where top 10 ranked at the time plus Collazo was a step up in weight and a natural WW who is a southpaw. But when cotto fights Branco,Mallinagi,Torres who are supposed to be easy fights he almost gets knocked out by torres then struggles to beat paulie, there all considerd to be good fighters even though torres had only thought in columbia for most of his career nd paulie who most people said would not go past the 6th but not collazo nd why is that cos theres to many hatton hatters who r still sore about him destroying tszyu. Nd when u look at all the great fighters past nd present they all have alot of fights with lesser oppositionos y is hatton being slated so bad for it?
because hatton is a veteran and many people continue to rate him as a top 10 p4p fighter, whereas the general consensus is that cotto is still a prospect and still improving--and no one currently rates him p4p.
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What an absolute joke.. It's so funny that things like this can even happen.. Like we are just supposed to forget that he was easily outboxed and lost the title shot they hand fed him... And talk about a step backwards for Hatton, it would be comical if this bout happens... NEver have I seen a fighter pull such a total 180 without officially suffering a loss.. I mean honestly, if this fight happens, Hatton is basically chickenshit as far as Im concerned... He vacated this very title probably a year ago to move up and get the bigger fights at welter, then he basically loses to an unknown but still escapes with a belt, now he drops back down to fight someone who just did the very same thing... Only Hatton won the very belt legitimately in the first place.
I completely agree, :coolclick: both fighters lost their last fights, they both have belts that were gifted to them and now they are both fighting each other because they are scared to rematch the guys who beat them.
If HBO show this they should bill the fight, 'Hit and Run, The Great Belt Robbers Losers Final'.
Personally I've gone from being a massive Ricky Hatton fan to wanting to see him knocked on his a** when he steps up again. If he fights Urango, he's a coward, plain and simple.
were you drunk when you watched the fight, tell you wot il let you guess my shiney yellow arse when hatton beats urango then beats castillo and is crowned chicken shit of the world
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
I hope this is just a stepping stone type fight for Hatton, trying to re-adjust back at 140 on the way to a showndown with Castillo.
finally you can see the light, trhought it was pretty dam obvious meself , you can have 1 of them happy clicks
Re: Urango confirms Hatton fight!!!
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
no matter how close it was hatton still won i think hatton edged it on knockdown and dont doubt hatton that was hes first fight at that weight id wait and see hes next fight at that weight before u start doubting him
well bloody said
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Originally Posted by Fenster
So since beating Kostya in 05 he's heading into 07 by adding Maussa, Collazo and Urango to his record.
Piss poor.
yeah cos all the other light welter/ welter fighters have been against top names in their last 3 fights
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
I hope this is just a stepping stone type fight for Hatton, trying to re-adjust back at 140 on the way to a showndown with Castillo.
finally you can see the light, trhought it was pretty dam obvious meself , you can have 1 of them happy clicks
why does he need an easy fight to "re-adjust back" to his normal weight that he only left for a single fight? it's not like RJJ or Tarver putting on 30-40 pounds of muscle. the guy went up SEVEN POUNDS--he walks around much heavier anyway.
i'm guessing they couldn't schedule castillo right away, but they better be fighting him soon.
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Originally Posted by Preme
So if hatton believes WW is to much for him, and steps back down to where he can be at is best, thats wrong? thats what most of you are saying?
well said
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by warreng
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Originally Posted by galaxy76
I hope this is just a stepping stone type fight for Hatton, trying to re-adjust back at 140 on the way to a showndown with Castillo.
finally you can see the light, trhought it was pretty dam obvious meself , you can have 1 of them happy clicks
why does he need an easy fight to "re-adjust back" to his normal weight that he only left for a single fight? it's not like RJJ or Tarver putting on 30-40 pounds of muscle. the guy went up SEVEN POUNDS--he walks around much heavier anyway.
i'm guessing they couldn't schedule castillo right away, but they better be fighting him soon.
he dosent need an easy fight, castillo is banned til the end of the yearan the other chaps at 140 are tied up ui think,