Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?
Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
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Originally Posted by Britkid
On the principal that all fighters listed must of turned pro in 1976 or later, here is my Top 30:
30 James Toney
29 Ronald ‘Winky’ Wright
28 Orlando Canizales
27 Mike Tyson
26 Sot Chitalada
25 Jeff Chandler
24 Lennox Lewis
23 Floyd Mayweather Jr
22 Aaron Pryor
21 Myung Woo Yuh
20 Jung Koo Chang
19 Kostya Tszyu
18 Brian Mitchell
17 Jeff Fenech
16 Salvador Sanchez
15 Marco Antonio Barrera
14 Mike McCallum
13 Felix Trinidad
12 Evander Holyfield
11 Khoasio Galaxy
10 Michael Spinks
9 Azumah Nelson
8 Bernard Hopkins
7 Ricardo Lopez
6 Roy Jones
5 Thomas Hearns
4 Pernell Whitaker
3 Oscar de la Hoya
2 Julio Cesar Chavez
1 Ray Leonard
I have asked you this question before and I will ask you again because you never seem to give a good answer, how do you have Chavez above Whitaker. Besides look at the ODH fight, Whitaker landed 50 more punches including knocking Oscar down and dipped and dogged all his hard punches all night long, it was a clear victory. Compare that with the way ODH fought Chavez when Chavez was beyond his prime and you can see the greatness. Pernell get's my vote. He outclassed 2 out of the three boxers ahead of him in their primes.
Just don't see how anybody could score the De La Hoya fight in favour of Whitaker ???
Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?
Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
Who would everyone say is the best fighter of the last 30 years? Duran, Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Whitaker, ODLH, Chavez, Hopkins, RJJ all have to be up there!
Boxing skills I would say Lennox Lewis, Bernard Hopkins, Ray Leonard
Raw talent RJJ
Excitement Oscar Delahoya
I will include Mayweather in boxing skills once he fights a big name fighter who's not too far past his prime. (I suppose that might never happen.)
Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?
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hey, everyone has forgotten John Ruiz.
For that matter, how about the beat it bruiser, Paul Reubens.
;D
Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
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Originally Posted by Britkid
On the principal that all fighters listed must of turned pro in 1976 or later, here is my Top 30:
30 James Toney
29 Ronald ‘Winky’ Wright
28 Orlando Canizales
27 Mike Tyson
26 Sot Chitalada
25 Jeff Chandler
24 Lennox Lewis
23 Floyd Mayweather Jr
22 Aaron Pryor
21 Myung Woo Yuh
20 Jung Koo Chang
19 Kostya Tszyu
18 Brian Mitchell
17 Jeff Fenech
16 Salvador Sanchez
15 Marco Antonio Barrera
14 Mike McCallum
13 Felix Trinidad
12 Evander Holyfield
11 Khoasio Galaxy
10 Michael Spinks
9 Azumah Nelson
8 Bernard Hopkins
7 Ricardo Lopez
6 Roy Jones
5 Thomas Hearns
4 Pernell Whitaker
3 Oscar de la Hoya
2 Julio Cesar Chavez
1 Ray Leonard
I have asked you this question before and I will ask you again because you never seem to give a good answer, how do you have Chavez above Whitaker. Besides look at the ODH fight, Whitaker landed 50 more punches including knocking Oscar down and dipped and dogged all his hard punches all night long, it was a clear victory. Compare that with the way ODH fought Chavez when Chavez was beyond his prime and you can see the greatness. Pernell get's my vote. He outclassed 2 out of the three boxers ahead of him in their primes.
Just don't see how anybody could score the De La Hoya fight in favour of Whitaker ???
If you did not see the fight of course not.
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You need to learn to score a fight if you think Whitaker won that ;)
Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?
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Originally Posted by BIG H
You need to learn to score a fight if you think Whitaker won that ;)
Show some love H, he landed 50 more punches and scored a knock down, it's fine if you disagree, actually I want you to disagree so we can debate but if you think that fight was a blow out maybe you should learn how to score a fight, one last thing, out of the 107 sports writers who scored the fight 88 thought Whitaker won, I guess they should learn how to score fights also
Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
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Originally Posted by BIG H
You need to learn to score a fight if you think Whitaker won that ;)
Show some love H, he landed 50 more punches and scored a knock down, it's fine if you disagree, actually I want you to disagree so we can debate but if you think that fight was a blow out maybe you should learn how to score a fight, one last thing, out of the 107 sports writers who scored the fight 88 thought Whitaker won,
I guess they should learn how to score fights also
I guess they should ;)
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P.S - It's all tongue in cheek BB, I do love ya ;D
Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
Very nice list Britkid, dont get me wrong i aint disputing ya list becuase i completely agree with SRL no 1 but what are your reasons for him being top!?
However, apologies if i missed it but where is Marvellous Marvin!
It took gritted teeth to admit SRL deserved to be #1...
We all know why he is #1
Adapted to beat a near prime Duran
Showed amazing ability to beat the underrated Kalule at a heavier weight (154lbs)
Beat a near prime Hitman, having to comeback from the verge of defeat to win it in the 'Championship' rounds
Came back to 'beat' Hagler when he had only had one poor fight in five years.
And although he did not win that fight IMO, there is no doubt it was amazing performance just to see him last 12 rounds. No one thought for one second Marvin agreeing to a 12 rather than 15 round fight would make any difference when the contract was written. Hagler was expected to win easily and quickly...
Showed a great brain by managing to win a 175lbs title at 168lbs (VS Donny Lalonde)
And sucked it up in Hearns rematch to give Tommy one hell of a battle, and help make the fight a fine rematch to a classic original.
Now I feel all dirty, think I need to see Leonard/Camacho again ;D
As for Marvin, I did state that I only rated fighters who turned pro in 1976 or later; Marvin of course, turned pro in 1973.
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Originally Posted by Britkid
As for Marvin, I did state that I only rated fighters who turned pro in 1976 or later; Marvin of course, turned pro in 1973.
Of course ;D
I missed that to. The Minter bout was in '80, so I figured he had turned pro by 76. Wow he really did have a long journey. I guess now I have more of an understanding on why the other champions were kind of just waiting for Hagler to go away. He was a 10 year vet by the time he fought Duran. Something I didn't know. I always saw the fight as a young Hagler with a lot of fights versus an aging and past his best Duran. CC BK.
I think the most talented fighter of the last 30 years was Whitaker. I think the greatest is probaby Leonard or Hearns, based off of accomplishments. It's really just splitting hairs. I could make arguments for and against a lot of those people so I don't even know.
Re: The best fighter of the last 30 years?
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Originally Posted by Britkid
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
Very nice list Britkid, dont get me wrong i aint disputing ya list becuase i completely agree with SRL no 1 but what are your reasons for him being top!?
However, apologies if i missed it but where is Marvellous Marvin!
It took gritted teeth to admit SRL deserved to be #1...
We all know why he is #1
Adapted to beat a near prime Duran
Showed amazing ability to beat the underrated Kalule at a heavier weight (154lbs)
Beat a near prime Hitman, having to comeback from the verge of defeat to win it in the 'Championship' rounds
Came back to 'beat' Hagler when he had only had one poor fight in five years.
And although he did not win that fight IMO, there is no doubt it was amazing performance just to see him last 12 rounds. No one thought for one second Marvin agreeing to a 12 rather than 15 round fight would make any difference when the contract was written. Hagler was expected to win easily and quickly...
Showed a great brain by managing to win a 175lbs title at 168lbs (VS Donny Lalonde)
And sucked it up in Hearns rematch to give Tommy one hell of a battle, and help make the fight a fine rematch to a classic original.
Now I feel all dirty, think I need to see Leonard/Camacho again ;D
As for Marvin, I did state that I only rated fighters who turned pro in 1976 or later; Marvin of course, turned pro in 1973.
:coolclick: for the explanation!
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also britkid doesnt admit this
but SRL is his fave fighter of all time, has posters of him on the wall ;)
i know ya hate him really bk ;D
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Originally Posted by beds
also britkid doesnt admit this
but SRL is his fave fighter of all time, has posters of him on the wall ;)
i know ya hate him really bk ;D
'Hate' is such a harsh word... but totally fair! ;D
