Tarver disses Joe Calzaghe

I have stated before that even though Hopkins blew out Tarver doesn't mean that Joe can, Joe & his style is copletely different from Hopkins' style

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by NorthSideX4

I have stated before that even though Hopkins blew out Tarver doesn't mean that Joe can, Joe & his style is copletely different from Hopkins' style

---

The styles are differerent, i agree, but Calzaghe is far to busy for Tarver, Tarver is lazy and for me Calzaghe would win a comfortable decision.

If Calzaghe beat Tarver then I would be impressed.

CC for the read Miles. I thought Tarver would have learnt respect by now,the prick! JoE C would swamp him and easily beat him,way too skilled for Tarver.

I post alot on this forum but 1 thing that annoys me is how people change their minds afterwards. Miles is totally correct,I remember maybe 8 people TOPS thinking JC would win,most thought Lacy would KTFO JC. Now Lacy is nothing etc etc. Secondly,JC has only fought d levels fighters......name me the A level fighters he should have fought..... Remember,when JC cancelled the fight with Lacy once or twice,peeps were saying STUPIIIIIIID things such as he is fraid,he is ducking etc...give me a break. Fact is JC has beaten the shat out of everyone put in front of him and I say this,I'm not even a big fan of the guy but I recognise his accomplishments,he has beaten everyone put in front of him.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by El Gamo

I post alot on this forum but 1 thing that annoys me is how people change their minds afterwards. Miles is totally correct,I remember maybe 8 people TOPS thinking JC would win,most thought Lacy would KTFO JC. Now Lacy is nothing etc etc. Secondly,JC has only fought d levels fighters......name me the A level fighters he should have fought..... Remember,when JC cancelled the fight with Lacy once or twice,peeps were saying STUPIIIIIIID things such as he is fraid,he is ducking etc...give me a break. Fact is JC has beaten the shat out of everyone put in front of him and I say this,I'm not even a big fan of the guy but I recognise his accomplishments,he has beaten everyone put in front of him.

---

So did Sven Ottke. Joe has beaten everybody put in front of him. Thing is there hasn't been much put in front of him in his 41 fights.

Poor analogy,from what I have heard,Sven,the ghost Ottke, won most of his matches via robbery and second,who do you recommend Calzaghe should of fought but did not? Like I said,I'm not a big fan of the guy,but I respect him.

Calzaghe beat Jeff Lacy who doesn't know the definition of defense. Don't overrate Joe because he looked spectacular against a guy that was hyped buyt had little in the way of stopping what Calzaghe had. Same can be said for Tarver beating a past his best Roy Jones. But given the styles of Tarver and Calzaghe, and Calzaghe's defense and ability and skill not being anywhere near Hopkins' then this will be a tough fight.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by El Gamo

Poor analogy,from what I have heard,Sven,the ghost Ottke, won most of his matches via robbery and second,who do you recommend Calzaghe should of fought but did not? Like I said,I'm not a big fan of the guy,but I respect him.

---

Besides the obvious fighters, he should of faught Sven Ottke when he had the chance. But that fight didn't happen cuz Calzaghe wouldn't fight in Germany and he didn't want Ottke to get the larger purse. Ignoring the fact that Ottke's lameass IBF and WBA titles actually meant more than Calzaghe's crappy ass WBO title. He always said Ottke was nothing to be scared of. So why not go into Germany and fight the champion who only scored 6 knock outs in his career? Let me guess it was all Ottke's fault that fight didn't happen. Just like it's Bernard Hopkins fault, Roy Jones fault, Kessler fault, Glen Johnson's fault, Antonio Tarver's fault, Winky Wright's fault that there fight's with Calzaghe don't happen. It's always somebody else's fault, but never Joe's.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by El Gamo

Poor analogy,from what I have heard,Sven,the ghost Ottke, won most of his matches via robbery and second,who do you recommend Calzaghe should of fought but did not? Like I said,I'm not a big fan of the guy,but I respect him.

---

Besides the obvious fighters, he should of faught Sven Ottke when he had the chance. But that fight didn't happen cuz Calzaghe wouldn't fight in Germany and he didn't want Ottke to get the larger purse. Ignoring the fact that Ottke's lameass IBF and WBA titles actually meant more than Calzaghe's crappy a** WBO title. He always said Ottke was nothing to be scared of. So why not go into Germany and fight the champion who only scored 6 knock outs in his career? Let me guess it was all Ottke's fault that fight didn't happen. Just like it's Bernard Hopkins fault, Roy Jones fault, Kessler fault, Glen Johnson's fault, Antonio Tarver's fault, Winky Wright's fault that there fight's with Calzaghe don't happen. It's always somebody else's fault, but never Joe's.

---

I agree with you El gamo, Calzaghe wins in my book.

Violent Demise. How many of Ottke's fights have you seen when he has been defending in Germany ? I'll tell what i know, and that is he get's the decision, he owns the ref, the is no way he loses when fighting at home. I ask you this Q Why did he never leave Germany to fight ?

A. He would have lost.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mattyhitman

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by El Gamo

Poor analogy,from what I have heard,Sven,the ghost Ottke, won most of his matches via robbery and second,who do you recommend Calzaghe should of fought but did not? Like I said,I'm not a big fan of the guy,but I respect him.

---

Besides the obvious fighters, he should of faught Sven Ottke when he had the chance. But that fight didn't happen cuz Calzaghe wouldn't fight in Germany and he didn't want Ottke to get the larger purse. Ignoring the fact that Ottke's lameass IBF and WBA titles actually meant more than Calzaghe's crappy a** WBO title. He always said Ottke was nothing to be scared of. So why not go into Germany and fight the champion who only scored 6 knock outs in his career? Let me guess it was all Ottke's fault that fight didn't happen. Just like it's Bernard Hopkins fault, Roy Jones fault, Kessler fault, Glen Johnson's fault, Antonio Tarver's fault, Winky Wright's fault that there fight's with Calzaghe don't happen. It's always somebody else's fault, but never Joe's.

---

I agree with you El gamo, Calzaghe wins in my book.

Violent Demise. How many of Ottke's fights have you seen when he has been defending in Germany ? I'll tell what i know, and that is he get's the decision, he owns the ref, the is no way he loses when fighting at home. I ask you this Q Why did he never leave Germany to fight ?

A. He would have lost.

---

Unfortunately I seen a couple of Ottke fights. I never once said he was great. He was far from it. And he got the close win all the time. Some unjust. By I'll give Ottke this, he fought often. And his resume while not great, is better than Calzaghe. As for Ottke not fighting outside of Germany, why does that matter? Calzaghe don't fight anywhere but his own turf, either.

calzaghe would murder tarver.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Starr

If Calzaghe beat Tarver then I would be impressed.

---

It doesnt take much to impress some people, eh Starr?? ::** ;D

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Majesty

Calzaghe beat Jeff Lacy who doesn't know the definition of defense. Don't overrate Joe because he looked spectacular against a guy that was hyped buyt had little in the way of stopping what Calzaghe had. Same can be said for Tarver beating a past his best Roy Jones. But given the styles of Tarver and Calzaghe, and Calzaghe's defense and ability and skill not being anywhere near Hopkins' then this will be a tough fight.

---

EXACTLY

How is JC more skilled than Tarver? Who has Joe beaten to show you that he can defeat Tarver? and we alll know it will be at Light Heavy Tarver by TKO