Re: CORRALES COMES IN 5 LBS OVER!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakey
Quote:
Originally Posted by galaxy76
They better ban Corrales. When Castillo was waiting for his hearing I said he should only be fined. But now that Corrales has done the same he better get the same punishment. At least Casamayor is willing to fight, I hope he knocks Corrales' a** out for being a chump!
Ok guys, corrales came in over and your all saying how he said it was bad of castillo well are you guys forgetting castillo didnt do it once...HE DID IT TWICE! Fighters come in overweight occasionally, it happens...but castillo did it twice! So dont go acting like corrales has done the same thing castillo did. It was obvious both time castillo had no intention on coming in on weight. And corrales fought castillo the first time he was over weight so it aint the same kind of situation.
I gotta agree with some of this but disagree with other parts
Yes, this does not make Castillo any better, he did it twice so if anything he's worse. Just because Chico's a hypocrite doesn't mean he's worse than Castillo is as far as weight goes, cause Castillo did come in over twice.
But, fighters come in overweight occasionally? Chico came in FIVE pounds overweight. That's not just a little overweight. Both he and Castillo are absolutely ridiculous for coming in that much overweight. That's not a little overweight.
Its not obvious that Castillo didn't even try to make weight, I was suspicious that he may have done that for the second fight but its not obvious. But if he did though, doesn't Corrales have to be under some kind of scrutiny too? I mean, 5 pounds overweight, either he's unprofessional, just has way outgrown the weight, or he didn't try, same for Castillo.
I wanna see what Chico comes in at for the weighin tomorrow. If he's really been draining himself, and hasn't eaten since Monday then he's gonna have a tough time rehydrating and eating without going above 147, or without just being weak as hell.
Re: CORRALES COMES IN 5 LBS OVER!
Actually there is no excuse for coming in heavy at this level and payday , its the management / trainers job to see the fighter comes in correct. A fighter should be at his target weight a week before the fight and maintain that weight proper until fight time . . really no excuse for this .
Re: CORRALES COMES IN 5 LBS OVER!
I am REALLY dissappointed in Corrales especially considering that he has been at the end of a similar decision with Castillo so he should understand the importance of making weight. Hopefully this is his last fight at 135. As for Cas,I feel for him because he really has no choice,this is his last shot at the big time,he had no other viable oppertunity so he has to take the fight.
The only difference is that I think Castillo knew he was not going to make weight and the second time,he just wanted to KO Chico regardless of the weight whereas I'd find it hard to believe that Diego would be the same. I'm dissappointed in Goossen too!
Re: CORRALES COMES IN 5 LBS OVER!
Re: CORRALES COMES IN 5 LBS OVER!
Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
I am REALLY dissappointed in Corrales especially considering that he has been at the end of a similar decision with Castillo so he should understand the importance of making weight. Hopefully this is his last fight at 135. As for Cas,I feel for him because he really has no choice,this is his last shot at the big time,he had no other viable oppertunity so he has to take the fight.
The only difference is that I think Castillo knew he was not going to make weight and the second time,he just wanted to KO Chico regardless of the weight whereas I'd find it hard to believe that Diego would be the same. I'm dissappointed in Goossen too!
Good point well made. Casamayor doesn't have a choice he has to go in there and try and win even with a four pound difference at the weigh in. It's all well and good dealing with that at SMW or LH, but 4lbs at the lighter weights is a damn big adantage, as we saw last time out when Corrales got rocked big time. Maybe he thought he deserved the same advantage, or he saw he wasn't going to make the weight, and decided to take what money he could anyway.
Re: CORRALES COMES IN 5 LBS OVER!
I think I speak for everyone here when I say.......WOW!
Re: CORRALES COMES IN 5 LBS OVER!
Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakey
Quote:
Originally Posted by galaxy76
They better ban Corrales. When Castillo was waiting for his hearing I said he should only be fined. But now that Corrales has done the same he better get the same punishment. At least Casamayor is willing to fight, I hope he knocks Corrales' a** out for being a chump!
Ok guys, corrales came in over and your all saying how he said it was bad of castillo well are you guys forgetting castillo didnt do it once...HE DID IT TWICE! Fighters come in overweight occasionally, it happens...but castillo did it twice! So dont go acting like corrales has done the same thing castillo did. It was obvious both time castillo had no intention on coming in on weight. And corrales fought castillo the first time he was over weight so it aint the same kind of situation.
I gotta agree with some of this but disagree with other parts
Yes, this does not make Castillo any better, he did it twice so if anything he's worse. Just because Chico's a hypocrite doesn't mean he's worse than Castillo is as far as weight goes, cause Castillo did come in over twice.
But, fighters come in overweight occasionally? Chico came in FIVE pounds overweight. That's not just a little overweight. Both he and Castillo are absolutely ridiculous for coming in that much overweight. That's not a little overweight.
Its not obvious that Castillo didn't even try to make weight, I was suspicious that he may have done that for the second fight but its not obvious. But if he did though, doesn't Corrales have to be under some kind of scrutiny too? I mean, 5 pounds overweight, either he's unprofessional, just has way outgrown the weight, or he didn't try, same for Castillo.
I wanna see what Chico comes in at for the weighin tomorrow. If he's really been draining himself, and hasn't eaten since Monday then he's gonna have a tough time rehydrating and eating without going above 147, or without just being weak as hell.
Yeah points taken. But i think after the second time castillo came in overweight i think he didnt really try to make weight. But anyway, we will see what happens tomorrow.
Re: CORRALES COMES IN 5 LBS OVER!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakey
Quote:
Originally Posted by galaxy76
They better ban Corrales. When Castillo was waiting for his hearing I said he should only be fined. But now that Corrales has done the same he better get the same punishment. At least Casamayor is willing to fight, I hope he knocks Corrales' a** out for being a chump!
Ok guys, corrales came in over and your all saying how he said it was bad of castillo well are you guys forgetting castillo didnt do it once...HE DID IT TWICE! Fighters come in overweight occasionally, it happens...but castillo did it twice! So dont go acting like corrales has done the same thing castillo did. It was obvious both time castillo had no intention on coming in on weight. And corrales fought castillo the first time he was over weight so it aint the same kind of situation.
Not once did Castillo come in 140. And then weigh in again at 139. This is much worse because all the heat Corrales gave and all the sympathy he got and how much he milked it, only to come in at 140 for his NEXT fight and contradict everything he said. That is much worse then what Castillo did.
Castillo never said "He could have called me when he came in overweight to let me know he couldn't make 135 anymore.. call me and say you can make 137 or something just so we didn't both drain ourselves or so that I wouldn't drain myself when he didnt intend to, that would have been the most respectful thing to do." Corrales said that(or something like that) And yet here he is saying that he was 147 two weeks before the fight and etc and not once did he think to make that announcement or to call Casamayor and tell him that. Not once.
That is what makes this much worse cause it's like the national spokesman against the N.R.A. decides to go on a killing spree and afterwards say "Guns are still wrong."
::**
Re: CORRALES COMES IN 5 LBS OVER!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakey
Quote:
Originally Posted by galaxy76
They better ban Corrales. When Castillo was waiting for his hearing I said he should only be fined. But now that Corrales has done the same he better get the same punishment. At least Casamayor is willing to fight, I hope he knocks Corrales' a** out for being a chump!
Ok guys, corrales came in over and your all saying how he said it was bad of castillo well are you guys forgetting castillo didnt do it once...HE DID IT TWICE! Fighters come in overweight occasionally, it happens...but castillo did it twice! So dont go acting like corrales has done the same thing castillo did. It was obvious both time castillo had no intention on coming in on weight. And corrales fought castillo the first time he was over weight so it aint the same kind of situation.
That is what makes this much worse cause it's like the national spokesman against the N.R.A. decides to go on a killing spree and afterwards say "Guns are still wrong."
::**
I think this last quote is a little over the top, he let himself down sure but I'm certain nobody feels worse both physically and mentally right now than Corrales.
As Snakey said Castillo did it twice to Corrales.
It does seem wrong to me however that fighters are even allowed to fight at a weight that is clearly well below their normal bodyweight.
I'm amazed that in todays world where safety is a priority that it's not illegal for a man with a clear size advantage exploiting the weigh ins to fight somebody naturally smaller than them. It's not just Corrales pretty much every fighter in the lower divisions is guilty of it.
I think the weigh in should be on the day of the world putting a stop to all this nonsense once and for all.
By the way Jorge Barrios failed to make weight against Guzman and was consequently stripped last month and I don't remember a single person criticisng him at all.
Even Lampley and all said he had had real weight problems before the fight and that it might have taken it's toll on him.
But when Castillo and now Coralles do it, they are seen to be gaining an advantage ???
Boxing confuses me sometimes :P
Re: CORRALES COMES IN 5 LBS OVER!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakey
Quote:
Originally Posted by galaxy76
They better ban Corrales. When Castillo was waiting for his hearing I said he should only be fined. But now that Corrales has done the same he better get the same punishment. At least Casamayor is willing to fight, I hope he knocks Corrales' a** out for being a chump!
Ok guys, corrales came in over and your all saying how he said it was bad of castillo well are you guys forgetting castillo didnt do it once...HE DID IT TWICE! Fighters come in overweight occasionally, it happens...but castillo did it twice! So dont go acting like corrales has done the same thing castillo did. It was obvious both time castillo had no intention on coming in on weight. And corrales fought castillo the first time he was over weight so it aint the same kind of situation.
Good point.
Re: CORRALES COMES IN 5 LBS OVER!
Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakey
Quote:
Originally Posted by galaxy76
They better ban Corrales. When Castillo was waiting for his hearing I said he should only be fined. But now that Corrales has done the same he better get the same punishment. At least Casamayor is willing to fight, I hope he knocks Corrales' a** out for being a chump!
Ok guys, corrales came in over and your all saying how he said it was bad of castillo well are you guys forgetting castillo didnt do it once...HE DID IT TWICE! Fighters come in overweight occasionally, it happens...but castillo did it twice! So dont go acting like corrales has done the same thing castillo did. It was obvious both time castillo had no intention on coming in on weight. And corrales fought castillo the first time he was over weight so it aint the same kind of situation.
That is what makes this much worse cause it's like the national spokesman against the N.R.A. decides to go on a killing spree and afterwards say "Guns are still wrong."
::**
I think this last quote is a little over the top, he let himself down sure but I'm certain nobody feels worse both physically and mentally right now than Corrales.
As Snakey said Castillo did it twice to Corrales.
It does seem wrong to me however that fighters are even allowed to fight at a weight that is clearly well below their normal bodyweight.
I'm amazed that in todays world where safety is a priority that it's not illegal for a man with a clear size advantage exploiting the weigh ins to fight somebody naturally smaller than them. It's not just Corrales pretty much every fighter in the lower divisions is guilty of it.
I think the weigh in should be on the day of the world putting a stop to all this nonsense once and for all.
By the way Jorge Barrios failed to make weight against Guzman and was consequently stripped last month and I don't remember a single person criticisng him at all.
Even Lampley and all said he had had real weight problems before the fight and that it might have taken it's toll on him.
But when Castillo and now Coralles do it, they are seen to be gaining an advantage ???
Boxing confuses me sometimes :P
Because Barrios's glasses are his excuse for being overweight :)
And I think it's more Corrales critisizing Castillo and then doing the same thing more over the top then him thats bigger
Re: CORRALES COMES IN 5 LBS OVER!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starr
Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakey
Quote:
Originally Posted by galaxy76
They better ban Corrales. When Castillo was waiting for his hearing I said he should only be fined. But now that Corrales has done the same he better get the same punishment. At least Casamayor is willing to fight, I hope he knocks Corrales' a** out for being a chump!
Ok guys, corrales came in over and your all saying how he said it was bad of castillo well are you guys forgetting castillo didnt do it once...HE DID IT TWICE! Fighters come in overweight occasionally, it happens...but castillo did it twice! So dont go acting like corrales has done the same thing castillo did. It was obvious both time castillo had no intention on coming in on weight. And corrales fought castillo the first time he was over weight so it aint the same kind of situation.
That is what makes this much worse cause it's like the national spokesman against the N.R.A. decides to go on a killing spree and afterwards say "Guns are still wrong."
::**
I think this last quote is a little over the top, he let himself down sure but I'm certain nobody feels worse both physically and mentally right now than Corrales.
As Snakey said Castillo did it twice to Corrales.
It does seem wrong to me however that fighters are even allowed to fight at a weight that is clearly well below their normal bodyweight.
I'm amazed that in todays world where safety is a priority that it's not illegal for a man with a clear size advantage exploiting the weigh ins to fight somebody naturally smaller than them. It's not just Corrales pretty much every fighter in the lower divisions is guilty of it.
I think the weigh in should be on the day of the world putting a stop to all this nonsense once and for all.
By the way Jorge Barrios failed to make weight against Guzman and was consequently stripped last month and I don't remember a single person criticisng him at all.
Even Lampley and all said he had had real weight problems before the fight and that it might have taken it's toll on him.
But when Castillo and now Coralles do it, they are seen to be gaining an advantage ???
Boxing confuses me sometimes :P
Because Barrios's glasses are his excuse for being overweight :)
And I think it's more Corrales critisizing Castillo and then doing the same thing more over the top then him thats bigger
Yeah I'm with you Starr, Corrales was all teared up that his opponent didn't make weight. Bleeting about all the sacrifice he's made then goes & does the same thing. Plus Barrios was a lot closer to the weight than Corrales!
Re: CORRALES COMES IN 5 LBS OVER!
Corrales is shot and he knows it. Coming in overweight is a way for him to try and gain andvantage over a fighter he knows deep inside he can't beat
Re: CORRALES COMES IN 5 LBS OVER!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Corrales is shot and he knows it. Coming in overweight is a way for him to try and gain andvantage over a fighter he knows deep inside he can't beat
cc bro, I think Corrales was hoping Casamayor would say no to fighting giving Corrales a way out. Unfortunately for Corrales; Casamayor as he has said would even fight in the street. Corrales is gonna get KTFO!!!
Re: CORRALES COMES IN 5 LBS OVER!
Quote:
Originally Posted by galaxy76
Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Corrales is shot and he knows it. Coming in overweight is a way for him to try and gain andvantage over a fighter he knows deep inside he can't beat
cc bro, I think Corrales was hoping Casamayor would say no to fighting giving Corrales a way out. Unfortunately for Corrales; Casamayor as he has said would even fight in the street. Corrales is gonna get KTFO!!!
Amen brother, I'm with you on ths one. Who cares about the bookies saying that Corrales will iwn, I agree that he was hoping for a way out of this grudge match, and Casamayor wouldn't give him it. Goodnight Corrales.
