Calzaghe is a F****** idiot...

Calzaghe is not a fukin idiot, I don't like him, but he's not an idiot. However he's not the unbeatable God that most Brits deem him to be. He had some definite trouble with Bika, who is not even ranked in the ring top 10. Bika won 4 rounds, and got his shots hin, wild and dirty as they may have been. Joe was whinin to the ref quite a bit too, some of it was warranted, but some wasn't. It was a so-so performance against average competition, which has been a pattern of Calzaghe's for a while, with Lacy and a few other fights being exceptions. HBO's commentating was bias and crap as usual, Kellerman stated Calzaghe was dominating the fight after less than 2 rounds were up. Too bad by the 12th he was holding on and had lost the round. Joe for sure won the fight, but it was hardly impressive, and he got busted up from the 168lb version of Carlos Maussa. And no Wacko, I don't think he would beat Jones or Hopkins, he'd have a better chance against Jones probably though.

Joe was lucky that fella couldn't box.

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Joe was lucky that fella couldn't box.

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I think the fact he couldn't box was Joe's biggest problem, because he abandoned his own boxing skills and tried to brawl. Had it been a boxing match, Joe would most likley hae reverted back to the jab and combinations and taken him to pieces.

One things the fight proves (not that it was in doubt) is that JC is a tuff Mofo, didn't take a backwards step, even after getting constantly butted and ruffed up.

Don't think Bika won 4 rounds Hulk!!! ;)


Much like Hatton, if JC doesn't back up his 1 really big win with something soon, I am really gonna lose patience with him

I disagree, all he needed to do was stick out the jab and backup, which he finally did in round 8. Instead to trying to out brawl and out muscle a big strong guy. Afterall it's up to you in impose your fight on the guy not get suckered in the other mand gameplan and certainly not sink down to their level.

Joe clowned around until he got cut, then he smartened up. Every boxer is beatable, but Calzaghe has more than enough boxing skill to go around. It would take a 30 year old Bernard Hopkins, to even have a chance at defeating Calzaghe. Either that or a Calzaghe broken hand.

Joe would destroy both so i dnt really think it matters who he fights nxt.

bt to see him beat b-hop would b gr8

I think Hopkins has the edge over both kessler and calzaghe, but both could conceivably win aswell. Kessler v Calzaghe is 50-50, and would probably as good as fight as we'd ever seen. Personally I'd rather see that.

I think being 34, having 42 fights and having really serious hand problems means that Calzaghe v Kessler would be mighty close!!

Just seeing how much variety Joe can bring to his game is testament to his experience in the ring.
I haven't seen a whole lot of either Joe or Kessler, but I think I'd rather see that fight than watch Joe outhustle Hopkins or Jones. I don't think Hopkins would be an easy fight for Joe, but I do think he'd win on activity alone.

Kessler looks strong, solid, and young. Joe's fast, strong, tough, and most of all - crafty. I think Joe would pull a hard decision.

But then again, you guys know more about these fighters than I do!!

wasn't really impressed with his performance and he was hit repeatedly with B-Hop's favorite punch the over hand right, also wtf was up with all the cockiness in the first 3 rounds, he was getting tagged and wasn't really dominating yet he was dancing and clowning around like if he was the god of boxing

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wasn't really impressed with his performance and he was hit repeatedly with B-Hop's favorite punch the over hand right, also wtf was up with all the cockiness in the first 3 rounds, he was getting tagged and wasn't really dominating yet he was dancing and clowning around like if he was the god of boxing

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Its called "being a ponce". Calzaghe shouldnt do the Lord Poncenbury routine too often before he retires. ;)

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wasn't really impressed with his performance and he was hit repeatedly with B-Hop's favorite punch the over hand right, also wtf was up with all the cockiness in the first 3 rounds, he was getting tagged and wasn't really dominating yet he was dancing and clowning around like if he was the god of boxing

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CC Nice post - A young Robin 'Reaper Man' Reid had Calzaghe eating that punch all night long and dropped a wafer-thin decision - and Joe didn't give him, his hardest test to date, any chance of a rematch and thus Reid was forced to Italy and Germany etc to get a fight (dropping a points loss to Otke in a TOTAL rip-off in germany).

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wasn't really impressed with his performance and he was hit repeatedly with B-Hop's favorite punch the over hand right, also wtf was up with all the cockiness in the first 3 rounds, he was getting tagged and wasn't really dominating yet he was dancing and clowning around like if he was the god of boxing

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CC Nice post - A young Robin 'Reaper Man' Reid had Calzaghe eating that punch all night long and dropped a wafer-thin decision - and Joe didn't give him, his hardest test to date, any chance of a rematch and thus Reid was forced to Italy and Germany etc to get a fight (dropping a points loss to Otke in a TOTAL rip-off in germany).

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i remember woodhall giving calzaghe trouble aswell with right hands

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wasn't really impressed with his performance and he was hit repeatedly with B-Hop's favorite punch the over hand right, also wtf was up with all the cockiness in the first 3 rounds, he was getting tagged and wasn't really dominating yet he was dancing and clowning around like if he was the god of boxing

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CC Nice post - A young Robin 'Reaper Man' Reid had Calzaghe eating that punch all night long and dropped a wafer-thin decision - and Joe didn't give him, his hardest test to date, any chance of a rematch and thus Reid was forced to Italy and Germany etc to get a fight (dropping a points loss to Otke in a TOTAL rip-off in germany).

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you did fail to mention how calzaghe had a broken hadn for like half of that fight....

It's clear to me that HBO wants Calzaghe-Hopkins. Note how HBO had the rights to broadcast the whole Kessler-Beyer fight, but instead just showed a 2-second clip of the KO followed by Kellerman saying that in order to show if he's great, Calzaghe must fight someone who's a proven great--Hopkins or Wright--and that beating Kessler wouldn't prove anything other than what people already recognize (that Calzaghe is good).

I agree with Kellerman on this too. Hopkins and Wright are top 5 P4P fighters. Joe currently is not. Kessler certainly is not. Fighting Wright or Hopkins would answer way more questions than fighting Kessler (unless Kessler won, that is). The upside on a Kessler fight is MUCH smaller, both financially and reputationally.