Absolutely
1. Pacquiao
2. Wright
3. Mayweather
Pacquiao has proven to be worthy. Speed, power, stamina, , excitement...and most importantly the quality of opposition. He's done it all!
Printable View
Absolutely
1. Pacquiao
2. Wright
3. Mayweather
Pacquiao has proven to be worthy. Speed, power, stamina, , excitement...and most importantly the quality of opposition. He's done it all!
1. Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
3. Winky Wright
Pacman has the warrior spirit and brings total excitement. He KO'd the number 1 and number 2 Top Mexican Boxers. He is currently the most dangerous fighter out there today.
Mayweather #1 without a doubt.P4P means that if they were all the same size who would come out on top.Based on facts...
Pac.1.He lunges with his punches 2.he is often off balance 3.he bounces which makes you prone to run into more punches 3.his defense is good but not great.
Mayweather-1.What flaws can you spot?
Winky-1.He stands flat footed at times. 2.He tends to pity pat punches.3.his combinations arent great.
speed-PBF
stamina-PBF
power-PBF-Pac tie
Ring awareness-PBF
expirience-PBF-he was born into the sport(he only has 6 losses in his lifetime)
footwork-PBF
counter punching-PBF-Winky-tie
Excitement-Pac
Defense-PBF-Winky-tie
feel free to make improvements...
pac has great stamina too and almost as fast. about experience... when fighting more tough competitions... pac has definitely the edge against mayweather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olympian904
mayweathers edge is his flawless defense, counter-punching and ring-awareness.
for intangibles... have to give it t pac for the excitement factor!!!
1.pbf
2.pacman
3.wright
I know rafael marquez moving up lol
also j.taylor
Top Ten Reasons Why Pacman Is Pound-For-Pound King
1. Pacman has brought a glow to the face of Larry Merchant. It's an orange-reddish tint which is usually only produced in men of Sir Lawrence's age when they take one tablet of Cialis or Viagra. Pacman brings joy to Larry's heart and soul and that is a good thing.
2. Pacman conducts himself like a gentleman at press conferences. Perhaps he can tutor James Toney and other louts so they can reform their too often boorish behavior in public..
3. Pacman is modest. Unlike PBF, Pound for Pound Biggest Ego around, he does not tell the media that he has surpassed the legendary ring exploits of an Ali or a Robinson. Modesty is becoming when it is real and I am sure it one of the reasons the Pacmaniacs adore him.
4. To use a British expression, Pacman does not slag or insult his present or future opponents. You don't hear him calling Barrera a taco-eating idiot, Joan Guzman a Dominican dolt or Edwin Valero a vicious Venezeulan. He seems to respect all opponents until the first bell rings. And he has the large "eggs" so that, if it made financial sense he would travel to Santo Domingo to fight Guzman, Mexico City to fight MAB or JM Marquez and to Caracas or Tokyo to fight Valero (who is promoted by Mr, Honda-San of Teiken.) What do I base this on? Well, Pacman went to San Antonio to fight MAB which is the same as fighting a Mexican in Mexico. You can check that out with Sweet Pea Whitaker who did not know that JC Chavez had 60,000 "cousins" until he fought that national idol in San Antone.
5. They never built a monument to Julio Cesar Chavez in Mexico, although both Culiacan and/or Mexico City should have. But they are erecting a monument to Manny in the PI as befitting a national hero. Do you think either Grand Rapids or Las Vegas will ever erect a monument to Mr. F. Mayweather Jr.? It's more likely PBF commissions his own and puts it in his Vegas backyard. Notice how I avoided using the verb "erect" in reference to those sexual stimulants which, or so I hear, can give one a Larry Merchant like glow of Pacmania excitement.
6. Pacman will probably start getting endorsement deals from ATLA, the American Association of Trial lawyers, or the American Bar Association. With his busy pen, Pacman signs contracts with just about every manager, promoter or boxing agent he meets and spends, oh say, about 20 minutes of time with.
7. Two or three more defeats and I bet Manny is a good enough of a brother to tell Bobby Pacquaio it is time to retire from boxing. Muhammad Ali, stung when his brother Rahaman lost to Dan McAlinden on the first Ali-Frazier fight undercard March 8, 1971, forced Rahaman to hang up the gloves. He then Rahaman a job with a less then detailed description. Once, when asked what service younger brother provided to Muhammad, Ali said, "I pay him $50,000 a year and that ain't bad for driving and jiving. Bobby Pac can become the driver and jiver for Manny.
8. He's got three losses and two draws but I cannot remember ever hearing about Pacman turning into a whino meaning a crybaby meaning an excuse-maker meaning a whimp. If memory serves, he did not even moan and groan when the late Agapito Sanchez gave him an Eusebio Pedroza Dirty Tricks Lesson.
9. I think Joan Guzman has the style to befuddle Pacman. I think Pacman handles the fading MAB and JM Marquez. I think Gzuman is much hungrier than MAB and might have a tough fight with would find a way to beat JMM. What makes Pacman-Guzman is great boxing theater is that, peering ahead into 2007, that I make it an even money or pick 'em fight. I cannot think of another "dream match" that I can say that about. Let me know if you can.
10. Pacman has more fans in Cebu City than PBF does in Michigan, Indiana and Ohio.
Mayweather has never beaten or even fought ANYBODY who will be in the Hall of Fame. He is a greatly gifted boxer (note I did not say fighter) who is frail, has no real punching power and will be totally dominated and knocked stupid by DeLaHoya, who is bigger, much stronger and hits like a mule. No contest after Mayweather gets hit the first time, which will come early. He is a later day edition of RJjr, a soft chinned overrated fighter of all time. Id'd love to see Pretty Boy get his face flattened by Sugar Shane, he would probably not hear the bell for round 5. Bet on Mayweather, hope you got a lotta change & deep pockets!
Small nitpick, but Gatti will likely be in the Hall of Fame.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
Well, the sport is called "boxing," not "fighting".....Quote:
He is a greatly gifted boxer (note I did not say fighter)
Could you cite some examples of Floyd's soft chin? Maybe a time where he was badly wobbled by a below average puncher, or a time when he was knocked down?Quote:
He is a later day edition of RJjr, a soft chinned overrated fighter of all time.
Shane hasn't KO'd an opponent in 5 rounds or less since he fought Adrian Stone (who?) six years ago.Quote:
Id'd love to see Pretty Boy get his face flattened by Sugar Shane, he would probably not hear the bell for round 5.
Fraud Gayweather is overrated, overranked, overhyped, and untested.
He's been ducking Miguel Cotto, Shane Mosley, Antonio Margorito, and even his fellow overrated fighter.. Hatton.
Pac meanwhile has been fighting best of the best. He dropped his taller/bigger opponent lately.
I'm not hatin' y'all. Just stating the truth and being objective.
Pac also has prime losses...Solis was a NOBODY!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
As for ducking Cotto,Margo,and Hatton...other than Kostyza they have beaten C+ fighters.Instead of whining and trying to say that he has been ducking them...why dont they step up and make him fight then as did Baldomir.
As for Mosley...Floyd chased him for years...now all of a sudden after he takes a couple of losses and needs his name out there for a big fight...he starts calling Floyd out.
To all the Floyd sycophants I have this to say: I don’t hate Floyd but I think someone with his talent and ability, which is enormous, should fight the best available competition. He got by Judah and Baldomir- 2 very good welters. That’s great - but there are more guys to beat in that division before he can be anointed KING. I believe he avoided Margarito consistently and if the TJ Tornado was such an easy fight why didn’t he roll through him for an easy $8M score? He didn’t do that because he knew Margarito was much too risky a proposition that may have cost him his shot at the Golden Boy. Floyd was a great 130 pounder. He fought the best there. He is an all-time great in that division. At 135, I thought he got a gift against Jose Luis Castillo, and I layed the 4-1 on Floyd in that fight, and he won a close nod in the rematch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olympian904
He fought 3 fights at 140 and beat Corley, Bruseles and Gatti, respectively. All good fighters, but certainly not the best in that division. He bypassed Kostya Tszyu and Ricky Hatton at 140 so he declined to prove he was the best there. As I said, he’s beaten some very good welters but has not beaten the very best in that division. My issue with him is that claims to be the very best fighter in the world while he actively avoids certain fights, and clearly hasn’t beaten the best in the welterweight division. If he does eventually beat them, I’ll give him that credit and tip my hat to him. I just think his actions contradict his statements. He finally got the fight he wanted for personal and monetary reasons (which is fine) by getting the fight with De la hoya. If he wins, he’ll rationalize that he’s done it all and will most likely retire. I understand he’s done enough to be a Hall of Famer but, except for De la hoya, I don’t think he’s willing to fight guys that can REALLY test him at this point in time. I don’t respect that in a great fighter, simple as that. He should be willing to test himself against all comers based on his statements - but he doesn’t. But all time great fighters want to fight the very best and not bullshit the unsuspecting (and I’m being kind) public. And as I said, he’s an all time great at 130 but he never proved that he was the best at 140 and has yet to prove he reigns supreme at Welterweight. You can’t just say you are the greatest and not fight the best guys. It’s that simple. I don’t think Manny Pacquiao will be ducking anybody which is why he has passed Floyd as the best in the world.
BTW, between Floyd when was at 130 against today’s PacMan? I got the Pacman winning by big KO on that.
Could you please tell us the times when Cotto, Mosley, and Hatton have been willing to fight Floyd, and Floyd has turned them down?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
Cotto is a young prospect who is still working his way up the ladder. He's just now up to fighting guys like Zab Judah. There is no way Cotto's handlers would have put him in the ring with Floyd. He's still getting experience.
Mosley has been at 154 since 2002. He just dropped down to 147 within the last year. There was an opportunity for Mosley to possibly fight Floyd in late '06, but Mosley said he wouldn't fight again until '07, so Floyd took the Baldomir fight.
Hatton fought one fight at 147, then jumped right back down to 140.
There are some arguments that people can make against Floyd, but this one you're making has no basis in fact whatsoever.
Floyd been ducking Margo?..lol...here we go again.Who has Margo fought?honestly.Its like if anyone calls out Floyd and he doesnt take the fight...he must be ducking them.How many times has Floyd been dazed or in trouble?Margo or anyone else is not all of a sudden gonna be able to land hard shots on him.FACT
:) :) HATTON
PACKMAN
MAYWEATHER ;) ;)