Im fucked, need serious advice

Turn the shit around on them. Get a lawyer and sue the fuckin company for slander and causing you emotional grief. Your a kid with no record and there's no tape (there ain't right) or proof that says you did it. Being named as a suspect has caused you severe stress. I guarantee you they'll back off.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Turn the S*** around on them. Get a lawyer and sue the F****** company for slander and causing you emotional grief. Your a kid with no record and there's no tape (there ain't right) or proof that says you did it. Being named as a suspect has caused you severe stress. I guarantee you they'll back off.

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this is the uk, not being funny but in the us u can sue people for looking at u funny, fk a women sued Mc donalds coz thier coffe was to hot ffs

As for your references, not to worry, it is illegal for any employer to give u a bad one, they can only A acnolage the fact that you worked for them from date said to date said, or B only list the good points, anything bad and you can press charges and win without a doubt.

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Originally Posted by Preme

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Turn the S*** around on them. Get a lawyer and sue the F****** company for slander and causing you emotional grief. Your a kid with no record and there's no tape (there ain't right) or proof that says you did it. Being named as a suspect has caused you severe stress. I guarantee you they'll back off.

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this is the uk, not being funny but in the us u can sue people for looking at u funny, fk a women sued Mc donalds coz thier coffe was to hot ffs

As for your references, not to worry, it is illegal for any employer to give u a bad one, they can only A acnolage the fact that you worked for them from date said to date said, or B only list the good points, anything bad and you can press charges and win without a doubt.

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If they dismissed him for theft (rightly or wrongly), they can say they dismissed him for theft.

It is not illegal to give a bad reference, it is illegal to give an UNTRUE one.

Let us know how it goes my man!..
All the best thou !
Peace

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Originally Posted by Steelie

Part of me personally would want to prove the point and make them drag out every fucking CCTV tape, cross reference shifts and go over the tills just to kind of show that I'd nothing to hide.

Ultimately you've gone against company policy by buying the drink but your certainly not guilty of helping yourself to £70 from the till. They can't prove it cos it didn't happen but your quite right, that element of doubt will still be there.

As far as references go...you'd be surprised at just how sloppy at lot of companies are. At your age just bang on a couple of personal references if asked. If you really must declare that you've worked at this shop (to prove you have relevant experience for example) they can only put in your reference statements of fact. Most companies only put dates of employment on these days cos they're afraid of getting sued.

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what im worried about is:

I put $20 in the till for the drink and i got my change of $19.37, that could look like anything from a CCTV point of view. Because the change was pretty vast it is almost impossible to tell what the hell i did take

Can't really offer any more advice than any of the others.

All the best mate let us know how it goes.

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Originally Posted by BIG H

Firstly mate - don't worry - if you are innocent they have to prove otherwise

secondly - you will just get a caution even if they did find you gulity (which they won't)

Don't let it get you down fella ;)

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Haven't read through all of this yet BUT if you accept a caution you are admitting guilt. So don't.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Turn the S*** around on them. Get a lawyer and sue the F****** company for slander and causing you emotional grief. Your a kid with no record and there's no tape (there ain't right) or proof that says you did it. Being named as a suspect has caused you severe stress. I guarantee you they'll back off.

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this is the uk, not being funny but in the us u can sue people for looking at u funny, fk a women sued Mc donalds coz thier coffe was to hot ffs

As for your references, not to worry, it is illegal for any employer to give u a bad one, they can only A acnolage the fact that you worked for them from date said to date said, or B only list the good points, anything bad and you can press charges and win without a doubt.

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i know i hate our legal system like people sueing mcdonalds for being overweight like they forced them to eat the food.

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Turn the S*** around on them. Get a lawyer and sue the F****** company for slander and causing you emotional grief. Your a kid with no record and there's no tape (there ain't right) or proof that says you did it. Being named as a suspect has caused you severe stress. I guarantee you they'll back off.

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Bang on... they can not accuse you of taking money if they do not have 100% proof you could get a tidy sum for this if you turned the tables on them...

also im 99% sure photographic evidence does not stand up in court or never used to ;)

so they can do fuck all if you took it or not... which im betting you did you theiving bastard ;D

anyhoooo dont worry they cant do fuck all except make you so shit scared that you wont do it again which is what it sounds like they are doing ;)

Sue them and then get 1 million dollars. Then go talk to your employers and go well thanks for the 1 000 070 bucks ;D

yeah man like he said. sue em for a couple of mil (and give me a share please) ;D

What happened about this in the end??

yeh, they dropped the bs about me stealing and now im gonna have a stupid diciplinary meeting..not going to go though, im not travelling 80 miles just to be told off for buying my own tango

First off.. It's just a gas station job right....! Bro if you are innocent, keep pleading it. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Turn the S*** around on them. Get a lawyer and sue the F****** company for slander and causing you emotional grief. Your a kid with no record and there's no tape (there ain't right) or proof that says you did it. Being named as a suspect has caused you severe stress. I guarantee you they'll back off.

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Bang on... they can not accuse you of taking money if they do not have 100% proof you could get a tidy sum for this if you turned the tables on them...

also im 99% sure photographic evidence does not stand up in court or never used to ;)

so they can do F*** all if you took it or not... which im betting you did you theiving B****** ;D

anyhoooo dont worry they cant do F*** all except make you so S*** scared that you wont do it again which is what it sounds like they are doing ;)

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All good advice so far.

With regards the CCTV footage - the systems for the Co-Op are/where originally installed by ADT and are now maintained by Initial Security after winning the co-ops UK security tender.

As far as i am aware their recording equipment is not stored in a locked cabinet and the tapes used are not in a secured storage facility.

Combined with the fact that they are a commercial premises, they will be bound by the data protection act.

Basically, if the employer is using the system as a tool to monitor staff activity - and not record incidents to assist police, then they are infringing on your rights.

I'm pretty sure that the Co-Op systems DONT comply with the requirements of DPA and thus would be ruled out in any prosecution (recordings not stored in compliance with DPA in a locked cabinet by a registered indivual - i.e. the Data Controller as they are refered to by the DPA)

Furthermore, if they are using the footage to 'spy' & 'monitor your behaviour' without your consent then they are on sticky ground themselves.

Refer to section 3 of the following:-

http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documen...ct_applies.pdf