Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
No your wrong. I was a Toney man. defending him to the core.
Maybe I'll come back around. But he'll have to win me back!
Besides who really cares about Toney now anyway, when we've got
THE GIANT NICOLAI VALUEV!
(sound of landmine950hopping on new bandwagon)
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
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Originally Posted by landmine950
No your wrong. I was a Toney man. defending him to the core.
Maybe I'll come back around. But he'll have to win me back!
Besides who really cares about Toney now anyway, when we've got
THE GIANT NICOLAI VALUEV!
(sound of landmine950hopping on new bandwagon)
Hah..If you aint discovered yet bro..
I stuck toney-peter II on my other thread to watch ;)
Peace you dirty trendwhore :P
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
I was just assuming everyone hit it dead on when they said toney was done but after watching the fight its bs and should've been stopped in round 2 by dq. Valuev pfff don't get me started.
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
I was just assuming everyone hit it dead on when they said toney was done but after watching the fight its bs and should've been stopped in round 2 by dq. Valuev pfff don't get me started.
Peter beat Toney easily, anyone who believes differently has a great pair of rose colored glasses. :)
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
I was just assuming everyone hit it dead on when they said toney was done but after watching the fight its bs and should've been stopped in round 2 by dq. Valuev pfff don't get me started.
Peter beat Toney easily, anyone who believes differently has a great pair of rose colored glasses. :)
I completely disagree...
Check my thread..Big dispute with toney peter II..
IVE even put the vid up there watch while you read...
And somehow i get the feeling you have watched it and not taken note on what has been landed during the tired slow jabbing and clinching moments..And the times in which they lasted for etc..
There was alot of round stealing done by peter in that fight..Last minute big punches and it seems that all the judges score for big punches rather then busyness now ::**
And toney would have been more capable of not bieng hit by round stealer's had he not been bashed up in the back of the head ;)
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
I was just assuming everyone hit it dead on when they said toney was done but after watching the fight its bs and should've been stopped in round 2 by dq. Valuev pfff don't get me started.
Peter beat Toney easily, anyone who believes differently has a great pair of rose colored glasses. :)
I completely disagree...
Check my thread..Big dispute with toney peter II..
IVE even put the vid up there watch while you read...
And somehow i get the feeling you have watched it and not taken note on what has been landed during the tired slow jabbing and clinching moments..And the times in which they lasted for etc..
There was alot of round stealing done by peter in that fight..Last minute big punches and it seems that all the judges score for big punches rather then busyness now ::**
And toney would have been more capable of not bieng hit by round stealer's had he not been bashed up in the back of the head ;)
I just wanna know what it was that Toney dropped on the floor cause he had his head down the whole night.
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
I was just assuming everyone hit it dead on when they said toney was done but after watching the fight its bs and should've been stopped in round 2 by dq. Valuev pfff don't get me started.
Peter beat Toney easily, anyone who believes differently has a great pair of rose colored glasses. :)
I completely disagree...
Check my thread..Big dispute with toney peter II..
IVE even put the vid up there watch while you read...
And somehow i get the feeling you have watched it and not taken note on what has been landed during the tired slow jabbing and clinching moments..And the times in which they lasted for etc..
There was alot of round stealing done by peter in that fight..Last minute big punches and it seems that all the judges score for big punches rather then busyness now ::**
And toney would have been more capable of not bieng hit by round stealer's had he not been bashed up in the back of the head ;)
I just wanna know what it was that Toney dropped on the floor cause he had his head down the whole night.
Took me about half a minute for that to click...
Well..You will have your head down when peoples keep rabbit punchin ya ;)
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
I was just assuming everyone hit it dead on when they said toney was done but after watching the fight its bs and should've been stopped in round 2 by dq. Valuev pfff don't get me started.
Peter beat Toney easily, anyone who believes differently has a great pair of rose colored glasses. :)
I completely disagree...
Check my thread..Big dispute with toney peter II..
IVE even put the vid up there watch while you read...
And somehow i get the feeling you have watched it and not taken note on what has been landed during the tired slow jabbing and clinching moments..And the times in which they lasted for etc..
There was alot of round stealing done by peter in that fight..Last minute big punches and it seems that all the judges score for big punches rather then busyness now ::**
And toney would have been more capable of not bieng hit by round stealer's had he not been bashed up in the back of the head ;)
I just wanna know what it was that Toney dropped on the floor cause he had his head down the whole night.
Took me about half a minute for that to click...
Well..You will have your head down when peoples keep rabbit punchin ya ;)
The only time I saw him hit him behind the head was when he put his head down though. I'll watch the fight again though cause I could be wrong although I already saw it 3 times. 8)
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
Well... Sometimes he put it down..Sometimes it was pushed down....
But at the end of the day..Your gona be labelled guilty when you throw over hand rights on the back of someones head about 4 times in a row...
Sam did also throw really strange looping shots behind the ear and even further back then that when they stood strait.. I dont know who here has been banged behind the head.. But for those who havnt...
I dont reccomend it..There is a reason why they illegal..They will do something real weird to you..
And when its someone the size of sam peter..No matter how good toney's chin is..
He was a middleweight god at one point and now he fighting big ol boys.. So he didnt need them shots..
Lol Peace
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
People you're aware muscle weighs more then fat, yeah Toney was a pound heavier but I bet his BFP was a lot lower. Problem is, it wasn't lean muscle he put on
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
There was a LOT of illegal stuff by Peter
He got warned a PILE of times
Hitting behind the head,holding,posting a lot of stuff
The ref kept warning him and stopped the fight twice to warn him.
He held toney's hed down and then clubbed him like 3 times right on the brain stem. That was intentional and should have garnered a point deduction.
But! he didn't blatently do it again right away,giving the ref the chance to deduct a point.
Also if you bend way over and lean off to the right when your only 5 foot nothin to start with..guess what! your going to get hit in the back of the mellon! Its not a legitimate defense! Its like turning your back at the last second and complaining. im not sure of the ruling in Pro but in Amatuer its strictly illegal to bend over. Don't forget the fight where Briggs turned a guy around held his head over the ropes and then nailed him with a right hand! he KO's the guy and wins the fight with a TOTTALLY illegal blow. Moral or the story if you get away with it its legal!
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
He may be brain dead! ??? ???
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
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Originally Posted by landmine950
There was a LOT of illegal stuff by Peter
He got warned a PILE of times
Hitting behind the head,holding,posting a lot of stuff
The ref kept warning him and stopped the fight twice to warn him.
He held toney's hed down and then clubbed him like 3 times right on the brain stem. That was intentional and should have garnered a point deduction.
But! he didn't blatently do it again right away,giving the ref the chance to deduct a point.
Also if you bend way over and lean off to the right when your only 5 foot nothin to start with..guess what! your going to get hit in the back of the mellon! Its not a legitimate defense! Its like turning your back at the last second and complaining. im not sure of the ruling in Pro but in Amatuer its strictly illegal to bend over. Don't forget the fight where Briggs turned a guy around held his head over the ropes and then nailed him with a right hand! he KO's the guy and wins the fight with a TOTTALLY illegal blow. Moral or the story if you get away with it its legal!
There's a difference between swinging and missing your punch and hitting someone in the back of the head, and AIMIMG for it and hammering down on it.
You know a fighter can get a concussion because of that, ask Montell Griffin what happened when he fought Tarver.
Anyway, I didn't think Peter dominated Toney in any way shape or form and my dad thought Toney won the fight.
So I guess its what you're looking for in the fight really.
I was impressed with Peters jab, wasn't impress at how he's still open for every punch Toney threw
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by landmine950
There was a LOT of illegal stuff by Peter
He got warned a PILE of times
Hitting behind the head,holding,posting a lot of stuff
The ref kept warning him and stopped the fight twice to warn him.
He held toney's hed down and then clubbed him like 3 times right on the brain stem. That was intentional and should have garnered a point deduction.
But! he didn't blatently do it again right away,giving the ref the chance to deduct a point.
Also if you bend way over and lean off to the right when your only 5 foot nothin to start with..guess what! your going to get hit in the back of the mellon! Its not a legitimate defense! Its like turning your back at the last second and complaining. im not sure of the ruling in Pro but in Amatuer its strictly illegal to bend over. Don't forget the fight where Briggs turned a guy around held his head over the ropes and then nailed him with a right hand! he KO's the guy and wins the fight with a TOTTALLY illegal blow. Moral or the story if you get away with it its legal!
There's a difference between swinging and missing your punch and hitting someone in the back of the head, and AIMIMG for it and hammering down on it.
You know a fighter can get a concussion because of that, ask Montell Griffin what happened when he fought Tarver.
Anyway, I didn't think Peter dominated Toney in any way shape or form and my dad thought Toney won the fight.
So I guess its what you're looking for in the fight really.
I was impressed with Peters jab, wasn't impress at how he's still open for every punch Toney threw
Thanks maj!! cc..
You pretty much covered what ive wrote up on my other thread In short..
Peace
Re: James Toney Disputes Scoring of Peter Bout
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by landmine950
There was a LOT of illegal stuff by Peter
He got warned a PILE of times
Hitting behind the head,holding,posting a lot of stuff
The ref kept warning him and stopped the fight twice to warn him.
He held toney's hed down and then clubbed him like 3 times right on the brain stem. That was intentional and should have garnered a point deduction.
But! he didn't blatently do it again right away,giving the ref the chance to deduct a point.
Also if you bend way over and lean off to the right when your only 5 foot nothin to start with..guess what! your going to get hit in the back of the mellon! Its not a legitimate defense! Its like turning your back at the last second and complaining. im not sure of the ruling in Pro but in Amatuer its strictly illegal to bend over. Don't forget the fight where Briggs turned a guy around held his head over the ropes and then nailed him with a right hand! he KO's the guy and wins the fight with a TOTTALLY illegal blow. Moral or the story if you get away with it its legal!
There's a difference between swinging and missing your punch and hitting someone in the back of the head, and AIMIMG for it and hammering down on it.
You know a fighter can get a concussion because of that, ask Montell Griffin what happened when he fought Tarver.
Anyway, I didn't think Peter dominated Toney in any way shape or form and my dad thought Toney won the fight.
So I guess its what you're looking for in the fight really.
I was impressed with Peters jab, wasn't impress at how he's still open for every punch Toney threw
OK.............. so you didn't think Peter dominated him and your dad thought Toney won. I guess it's true what they say, bad eyesight is hereditary.