Re: Ben vs Mclellan Weird fight
The commontater even states that you get a little extra time if you end up through the ropes ;)
GM was telling the world he was gonna put nige in hospital and was flying with 14 first round ko's or thereabouts come fight night.
Brutal brutal fight that one and one of the best i have seen in a UK ring.
Amazing stuff from both fighters.
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he could not continue any longer and he would of died
Hate to be cruel but he may have been better off
The fight should have been stopped when Benn got his a** kicked in the 1st round
Also I believe rabbit punches from Benn as well as McClellan's hard sparring led to his disability
Lol quite true..He got knocked through the ropes if i remember right...
In fact!! Its was the press row that actually helped him back in!! lol
He never would of made it back in if it wasn't for press row. That fight should of ended in the first round. Benn was given every chance possible and than some. The ref pulled McClellan off Benn so many times it was ridiculous. And for no reason at all but to give Benn time to recover. McClellan was not going to leave England the winner. Not matter what. It was going to be prevented. This was a straight ambush. If Benn was any kind of man he would not consider this a win.
At least get your facts right before you go building huge conspiracy theories on top of them. :nono:
Referee was crap, but if there was a fix in place it was for the G-man to get rid of Benn.
Having watched the fight, I don't think you can cast any aspersions on what sort of man Nigel Benn is. >:mad
I aint never said one thing about what kind of man the dark destroyer is..
So what people make mistakes..But i say one thing and all these cats try get up my a** with theyr snide comments and whatnot..
What did i hurt someones feelings..Get over it...I RARELY make mistake..Give a brother a break..
I'm not criticising you Tito, you always have a reasonable point of view (I may not always agree, but I can usually see your point). I know you didn't say anything about what kind of man Nigel Benn is ......... I was having a pop at VD who regularly regurgitates bullshit and parcels it up as wise words (or, at least, 'street slang' that he saw in a movie somewhere).
So you just made a mistake about the press pushing him back in (big deal, I make bigger mistakes than that when I post, I'm sure). VD however had decided that on his planet that constitues a conspiracy and that G-Man really won in the first - a barmy proposition if ever I heard one - and Benn is somehow inadequate as a human being.
A cc to Tito, one of my favourite posters
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Originally Posted by Fenster
I think it's best to actually watch fights before you comment on them
that way you can save yourself from looking like a complete and utter moron.
That doesn't work for me Fenster.
I still look like a complete and utter moron, even after watching the fights.
;)
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
he could not continue any longer and he would of died
Hate to be cruel but he may have been better off
The fight should have been stopped when Benn got his a** kicked in the 1st round
Also I believe rabbit punches from Benn as well as McClellan's hard sparring led to his disability
Lol quite true..He got knocked through the ropes if i remember right...
In fact!! Its was the press row that actually helped him back in!! lol
He never would of made it back in if it wasn't for press row. That fight should of ended in the first round. Benn was given every chance possible and than some. The ref pulled McClellan off Benn so many times it was ridiculous. And for no reason at all but to give Benn time to recover. McClellan was not going to leave England the winner. Not matter what. It was going to be prevented. This was a straight ambush. If Benn was any kind of man he would not consider this a win.
Agreed My Friend a real Black Eye on the sport that gets Vaunted as some superhuman performance... I cant in my own mind see it, Nigel got so many chances that night, anyfighter could have peformed on that level if they were giving the same opportunities.. He should of been named Nigel "The Cat" Benn since he got about 9 lives
Just like Violent stated and its undisputable footage that the Ref pulled Gerald of of Benn on a few ocassions for no reason, Benn was not able to intelligently defend himself in the 1st round he was falling thru the ropes taking punches with his hands down....THATS A TKO!!!! not to mention the rabbit punches and Butts.. At one point you can here Ferdie Pacheco in the 1st round "What is this ref doing? Why is he Holding back McClellan?"
Gerald was the true warrior that nite.. Despite all the unfair advantages and a whole country and Ref against him he Damn near layed down his life to overcome those odds...He just came up short I cant think of another fighter that could have hung in there just as long...
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He never would of made it back in if it wasn't for press row. That fight should of ended in the first round.
Some people should rewatch the following footage. Benn goes down no doubting that, press row put up their hands (defence mechanism) as they do anywhere else in the world and Benn climbs back into the ring unassisted before the count reaches ten. American commentary too, none of that terribly biased British stuff.
The referee is fussy, no doubting that, but to be honest did he really help Benn THAT much? Benn was looking after himself pretty well considering the shelling he was getting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy4ahdtiks8
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How many punches did Benn land in the first? 3 at the most. He was ready to go through out the whole round. But for some reason the ref just had to separate them. Not once, not twice. Hell no even three times. 5 times! For no reason at all. Anybody who's ever boxed before knows a second or two is all it takes for a fighter to get knocked out. For a ref to deny a fighter the chance to deliver the knock out blow 5 times is ridiculous. So yes he really did help Benn that much.
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VD doesnt like anything or anyone that is british. Thought you guys would have realised this by now. He is best being ignored as his opinions are not worth shit to anyone who doesnt live in his little make believe world where he is king!
Who's this clown?
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Its not so much you Tito, everyone gets it wrong every once in a while and your posts are usually very knowledgable. Its Viloent D who's being the arsehole.
And just so that its clear :sadclick: for you VD
Damn not another sc.
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I think it's best to actually watch fights before you comment on them
that way you can save yourself from looking like a complete and utter moron.
That doesn't work for me Fenster.
I still look like a complete and utter moron, even after watching the fights.
;)
At least you know what you are
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Originally Posted by Fenster
I think it's best to actually watch fights before you comment on them
that way you can save yourself from looking like a complete and utter moron.
I think I have demonstrated that I'm a pretty educated and balanced poster.. ;)
I can guarnatee I have seen the fight more than most of the people commenting on this thread.. I watched it numerous times around the time the fight took place and had Ice Cold Boxing dig it up for me over the summer and have watched it another 5x or so and came to the same conclusion i did 11 years ago.. I even had a friend at work that is a casual fan who didnt remember the fight, watch it and I asked him what he thought, he said that Benn got away with alot and the ref was garbage to the point were he impacted that fight 100% ...
Difference of opinion is one thing but name calling and condecending and terse remarks are unesscesary..
its all or nothing with the opinions of that particular fight.. It was either the Heroic effort of a lifetime for Benn or the biggest Screw Job in the past 30 years for McClellan all depending on who you talk to, there is no middle ground on this one, never has been ;)
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:coolclick: I got your back on this one VD my Brutha... Again to BBQ someone for difference of opinion on such a controversial fight is ridiculous... This aint about Hate for a fighter or preference, I liked Nigel Benns destructive ways in the ring he was exciting to watch, but its about whats right and The video dosent Lie, its an undisputable fact that Gerald was fighting 3 men in the ring that nite... If that happened to Benn, Eubank, Calzaghe or even Hatton the British boxing fan would be just as upset!!!!
But lets forget about the personal feelings for the combatants, but about whats right
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lyle u are spot on at the time i picked g-man by 1 round ko and in my opinion he got it!!!
rest is history
Benn won cos he had more of a heart
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benn got from what i remember 9 seconds rest in total when ref pulled them apart it didnt really make no difference gman battered him he survived and comeback and started winning yes maybe ref shouldnt of pulled them apart few times but it made no real difference imo anyway
and ps you see my post count has gone loads :( i will never catch wacko now :P
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benn got from what i remember 9 seconds rest in total when ref pulled them apart it didnt really make no difference gman battered him he survived and comeback and started winning yes maybe ref shouldnt of pulled them apart few times but it made no real difference
Sure it does!!!!!!! ICB I can tell you 1st hand even when I have sparred I been buzzed and a second or two makes a world of diference in recovery time whether your trying to survive or going for the KO, when your on Queer street a second feels like eternity
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benn got from what i remember 9 seconds rest in total when ref pulled them apart it didnt really make no difference gman battered him he survived and comeback and started winning yes maybe ref shouldnt of pulled them apart few times but it made no real difference
Sure it does!!!!!!! ICB I can tell you 1st hand even when I have sparred I been buzzed and a second or two makes a world of diference in recovery time whether your trying to survive or going for the KO, when your on Queer street a second feels like eternity
to me mate it didnt really make any difference he still would of survived benn was great that night his chin was good that night and he was leagues ahead of anything he performed before i think out of series of 10 g man would beat benn but that night benn was something special and no one can take that away from him
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benn got from what i remember 9 seconds rest in total when ref pulled them apart it didnt really make no difference gman battered him he survived and comeback and started winning yes maybe ref shouldnt of pulled them apart few times but it made no real difference
Sure it does!!!!!!! ICB I can tell you 1st hand even when I have sparred I been buzzed and a second or two makes a world of diference in recovery time whether your trying to survive or going for the KO, when your on Queer street a second feels like eternity
to me mate it didnt really make any difference he still would of survived benn was great that night his chin was good that night and he was leagues ahead of anything he performed before i think out of series of 10 g man would beat benn but that night benn was something special and no one can take that away from him
Ice my man, if you ever boxed before you would know a second or two can change everything. And Benn's chin was not great that night. If it was he wouldn't of been down twice know would he.
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How many punches did Benn land in the first? 3 at the most. He was ready to go through out the whole round. But for some reason the ref just had to separate them. Not once, not twice. Hell no even three times. 5 times! For no reason at all. Anybody who's ever boxed before knows a second or two is all it takes for a fighter to get knocked out. For a ref to deny a fighter the chance to deliver the knock out blow 5 times is ridiculous. So yes he really did help Benn that much.
You've dropped the whole "he was helped back into the ring" line then?
I figure two or maybe three more posts and I'll have you on your knees, like you should be.
;D
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How many punches did Benn land in the first? 3 at the most. He was ready to go through out the whole round. But for some reason the ref just had to separate them. Not once, not twice. Hell no even three times. 5 times! For no reason at all. Anybody who's ever boxed before knows a second or two is all it takes for a fighter to get knocked out. For a ref to deny a fighter the chance to deliver the knock out blow 5 times is ridiculous. So yes he really did help Benn that much.
You've dropped the whole "he was helped back into the ring" line then?
I figure two or maybe three more posts and I'll have you on your knees, like you should be.
;D
You confirmed it with the footage you posted. It's clearly obvious there pushing him in. In no way shape or form did Benn land on top of them. So there was nothing to be defensive about. And just so you know, just cuz you blow me first doesn't mean I'm a blow you back. It don't work that way, homie.
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Originally Posted by Fenster
I think it's best to actually watch fights before you comment on them
that way you can save yourself from looking like a complete and utter moron.
Difference of opinion is one thing but name calling and condecending and terse remarks are unesscesary..
If you comment on a fight you haven't seen you're a complete and utter moron. Fact.
If you invent crazy wild scenarios about a fight you have seen and try to pass it off as fact, you're a complete and utter moron. Fact.
What's unesscesary is for guys that are supposedly boxing fans making demeaning comments against a man that prevailed in a brutal tragic fight
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Nigel got so many chances that night, anyfighter could have peformed on that level if they were giving the same opportunities.. He should of been named Nigel "The Cat" Benn since he got about 9 lives
Gerald was the true warrior that nite.. Despite all the unfair advantages and a whole country and Ref against him
And you've got your bruthas back on this one, right? You agree with his comments, right?
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McClellan was not going to leave England the winner. Not matter what. It was going to be prevented. This was a straight ambush. If Benn was any kind of man he would not consider this a win.
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I think I have demonstrated that I'm a pretty educated and balanced poster.. ;)
Have you? ;)
