Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
I'm not blaming Vitali. You are right, it's the WBC's fault and I'm blaming the WBC. They have the loophole to let it's former champ unretire and jump right in, at their discretion. They have a choice, and they are choosing unfairly. It's a joke, because likely their plan was for Toney to win the title, fight Maskaev (when the rematch happened) then fight Vitali. The judges screwed that up, so they mandated the rematch. Peter screwed that up for them again. Now, Vitali's ready, and promise to Peter or not, they want to give him his shot. It ain't Vit's fault. He's just taking advantage of his opportunity. Fair play to him, but Peter is still getting screwed. Do you think Briggs or Caveman is going to fight Peter when he's not their mandatory? If they are going to lose, they, like everyone else in the HW division, would rather go out in a blaze of glory with a Klitchko payday.
I don't blame them for being the big paydays. I don't even blame Maskeav. The WBC shouldn't even give him the option.
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
vitali wants to fight Maskaev because he knows that is the only way the klit brothers can both hold titles at the same time. vitali can't beat any of the other champs that's why he wants the chump. He waited until Peter beats Toney the second time to announce that cause he was banking on Toney winning. He knows he can't beat Peter so he wants to win it from Maskaev so even he loses or if he decides to retire again, he's ok with that cause they did what they set out to do and they're happy with that. That's why I no longer respect either klit as a real champ.
You're a dumbass and you're just angry that Sam no longer has his title shot...the anger I understand but you know God Damn well Vitali would beat the dreads off of Shannon Briggs and flat out destroy Nicolay Valuev!!!
Vitali is fighting Maskaev because he feels he has a score to settle no whether or not Sam Peter should get this shot or wait is up for debate as the shot was promised to both men!
We can't afford a box off because who knows if Maskaev can win vs whoever he fights.
I think you Peter fans are more pissed because if Sam couldn't beat Wladimir then he sure as hell can't beat Vitali!!!
You calling me a dumbass not only shows me that you're a coward that talks sh** behind a keyboard but it also tells me that you know I'm right and you're frustrated as hell.
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
I'm still too pissed off, and hoping Peter won't get ripped off to even think about whats next up for him .
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
You calling me a dumbass not only shows me that you're a coward that talks sh** behind a keyboard but it also tells me that you know I'm right and you're frustrated as hell.
Riddle me this yankee! How would you plan to actually PROVE I'm a coward instead of someone who just speaks his mind and has different opinions than yourself? Were you going to challenge me to some kind of internet duel???......stop being a jackass and argue correctly
#1 You're NOT right Vitali = Emeritus Champ and therefore was able to come back and fight FOR THE WBC TITLE whenever he wanted to.
#2 Yes Sam Peter won his #1 Contender status BUT the WBC already promised Vitali his shot......all I can say is it's bad timing.
#3 The WBC and Oleg Maskaev had control of this situation and therefore they are to blame
...sure Vitali COULD take a warm up fight he and COULD fly a rocket ship to the moon! What's wrong with making money and winning a title right away, he's an older fighter and may not feel as though he has enough time to fuck around with a warm up fight OR he may just feel he's good enough to go ahead and win which I think is true.
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
Sam Peter needs to take as little risk as possible considering he's the #1 mandatory. He should fight a 6'6" or thereabouts, pushover to stay fresh for the Klitschkos (because Vitali will win, unless that leg is shot) and to minimize the possibility of losing. An L at this point would force him to work his way back up.
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
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Originally Posted by Preme
anyone know where peter is ranked with the WBA? the lick the wbc's a** so im guessing fairly high up?
http://www.fightnews.com/rankings2.htm
These are the most recent rankings of all heayweight divisions. Peter isn't ranked by the WBA or the IBF (I'm guessing he just doesn't pay their fees at all). The WBO, if that counts, has him ranked at #2, behind Sultan. I assume that he will be the mandatory for the winner of Briggs-Ibragamov, but I'm not sure. They could jerk him around and force him into a box-off for his title show, and even if he gets that belt, it's the less prestigious WBO.
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
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Originally Posted by SeanE
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Originally Posted by Preme
anyone know where peter is ranked with the WBA? the lick the wbc's a** so im guessing fairly high up?
http://www.fightnews.com/rankings2.htm
These are the most recent rankings of all heayweight divisions. Peter isn't ranked by the WBA or the IBF (I'm guessing he just doesn't pay their fees at all). The WBO, if that counts, has him ranked at #2, behind Sultan. I assume that he will be the mandatory for the winner of Briggs-Ibragamov, but I'm not sure. They could jerk him around and force him into a box-off for his title show, and even if he gets that belt, it's the less prestigious WBO.
cheers mate
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
You calling me a dumbass not only shows me that you're a coward that talks sh** behind a keyboard but it also tells me that you know I'm right and you're frustrated as hell.
Riddle me this yankee! How would you plan to actually PROVE I'm a coward instead of someone who just speaks his mind and has different opinions than yourself? Were you going to challenge me to some kind of internet duel???......stop being a jackass and argue correctly
#1 You're NOT right Vitali = Emeritus Champ and therefore was able to come back and fight
FOR THE WBC TITLE whenever he wanted to.
#2 Yes Sam Peter won his #1 Contender status BUT the WBC already promised Vitali his shot......all I can say is it's bad timing.
#3 The WBC and Oleg Maskaev had control of this situation and therefore they are to blame
...sure Vitali COULD take a warm up fight he and COULD fly a rocket ship to the moon! What's wrong with making money and winning a title right away, he's an older fighter and may not feel as though he has enough time to F*** around with a warm up fight OR he may just feel he's good enough to go ahead and win which I think is true.
Listen you fa99ot. Stop calling out my name over the web like a little pu55y. It's not my fau;t the truth hurts. It has hurt since the beggining of time. If you don't have a legit argument and have to resort to name calling cause you know you can't get smacked in the safety of being at home behind your computer then talk to someone else. I'm not gonna stop telling the truth cause it hurts you.
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
let me weigh in here !! Yo Lyle you called the kid a dumbass ! that aint very nice bro ! come on now Lets all have group hug ! :grouphug: ...
Now tell me that don't feel good ! ;) 8) LMFAO !
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
let me weigh in here !! Yo Lyle you called the kid a dumbass ! that aint very nice bro ! come on now Lets all have group hug ! :grouphug: ...
Now tell me that don't feel good ! ;) 8) LMFAO !
Thanx Lords...that did feel better.
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
he said and I quote
"vitali wants to fight Maskaev because he knows that is the only way the klit brothers can both hold titles at the same time. vitali can't beat any of the other champs that's why he wants the chump."
If that doesn't deserve the DUMBASS moniker then what does?
But if it truly insulted you then I am sorry.....is that better?
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
I mean let's take a good hard look at the other title holders....
Shannon Briggs BUM had a title fight where he only had to really fight 1 round and has a tiny guy lined up for his first defense....Vitali might eat a few right hands before KO-ing Shannon but the KO would come!
Nicolay Valuev....undefeated, a HUGE fighter (in size) and would promise to be a huge payday for Vitali due to the novelty of the event but Nicolay was stunned by Monte Barrett, end of discussion!
Wladimir the brothers won't fight each other and that's that
So by that rational Nicolay Valuev or Shannon Briggs would be the better options to fight if Vitali was to fight a BUM for a title.....Oleg really and legitimately beat a good fighter in Hasim Rahman and he KO'd him!....no he DOMINATED HIM!
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
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Originally Posted by Lyle
he said and I quote
"vitali wants to fight Maskaev because he knows that is the only way the klit brothers can both hold titles at the same time. vitali can't beat any of the other champs that's why he wants the chump."
If that doesn't deserve the DUMBASS moniker then what does?
But if it truly insulted you then I am sorry.....is that better?
Apology accepted and hopefully we can move forward from here on. I understand you get worked up about your guys cause I do too but it seems that more and more people are resorting to that name calling and stuff and it's starting to take away from the forum. You gotta know I like debating with you cause even when you're not involved I call your name out but it's all in good fun. The thing is, there are guys in here that probably didn't go through a day of high school without getting a wggie so they get online to act tough. You proved me wrong though. It takes a real man to apologize. CC for that now it's time to argue.....Peter is gonna knock both the klits OUT!!! I'm betting the farm!!
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
hahaha.......I apologize and you insult me.
Thanks I guess....takes a real man to talk shit after he has been apoligized to
And just an FYI, I'm no bully and I'm not one of their victims either....I'm a very nice person to those who choose to treat me so. Just because I call someone an asshole, a jackass, a dumbass etc doesn't mean I use that in a tone of hatred just as an attention getter so you pay attention, got it?
Peter had his shot vs Wlad and if he gets another one Sam will be knocked out cold. Go ahead bet the farm, if you like losing money go ahead.
Sam Peter couldn't KO James Toney, he couldn't KO Charles Shufford....he damn sure won't KO Vitali!!!!
Re: Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???
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Originally Posted by Lyle
hahaha.......I apologize and you insult me.
Thanks I guess....takes a real man to talk S*** after he has been apoligized to
And just an FYI, I'm no bully and I'm not one of their victims either....I'm a very nice person to those who choose to treat me so. Just because I call someone an asshole, a jackass, a dumbass etc doesn't mean I use that in a tone of hatred just as an attention getter so you pay attention, got it?
Peter had his shot vs Wlad and if he gets another one Sam will be knocked out cold. Go ahead bet the farm, if you like losing money go ahead.
Sam Peter couldn't KO James Toney, he couldn't KO Charles Shufford....he damn sure won't KO Vitali!!!!
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