Saturday Night - Collazo-V-Mosley... Who wins?

I guess Mosley, though he didn't exactly look spectacular at 147 versus Estrada or Cruz.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

I'm gonna take SSM by UD, pretty decisive win for Mosley by 3 or 4 rds.... I think SSMs vet. skills and tactics will do it for him..... His hand speed is better then Collazo, SSM knows how to put punches together well and I think ultimately Collazo will not be able to find a rythim as SSM will mix it up.....

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Thats how I see it as well, good insight O0

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Originally Posted by shza

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Originally Posted by Jimboogie

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Originally Posted by ono

Its not been shown in the UK live so there isn't as much interest over here for it. I voted Collazo by UD anyway. I don't think Mosley is back to his best. I think Vargas was washed up and that in itself made Mosley out to be better than he is. Last time at welter he looked average against Cruz but i think Collazo's combination punching could be a big factor.

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Yeah I was hoping for a response from our Stateside Saddonians, I know it’s being shown live on ShowTime.

Your right about Mosley's last outing at Welter. I’m hoping he has returned with more in his locker.
The thing that gets me is that Mosley’s thing seemed to be based around speed & power in combinations.

So potentially you’ve got two fighters willing to put a lot in.
On top of that Mosley as we know is a very seasoned fighter while Collazo already has that look about him too.




As you can probably tell, im hoping this fight proves to be a big deal as i'm rapidly growing tired of the other welters making excess noise.

This fight is just strictly business 8)

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It's on HBO. I hear everyone on the uncertainty of Shane, and it being hard to tell against a punching-bag version of Vargas, but I'm still picking him to win by KO. If he can KO a nearly 170-pound Vargas, he's easily got the power to do the same here.

Question for the Hatton fans: if Collazo wins, it's because Shane's past his prime, right? No one would pick Collazo over a prime Shane. So how would a Collazo victory over a shot Shane Mosely do anything to bolster Hatton's (gift) decision over Collazo? Not following....

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Go ask Winky mate ;)

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Originally Posted by Jimboogie

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Originally Posted by shza

Question for the Hatton fans: if Collazo wins, it's because Shane's past his prime, right? No one would pick Collazo over a prime Shane. So how would a Collazo victory over a shot Shane Mosely do anything to bolster Hatton's (gift) decision over Collazo? Not following....

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Go ask Winky mate ;)

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Nice try. Shane was coming off of back-to-back victories looking pretty prime against De La Hoya when he turned down a third to fight Winky. And unlike Collazo, one could certainly argue that Winky could take Shane at any point in Shane's career anyway. My question still stands.

But seriously, where's the RBR thread for this? Wacko?

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Question for the Hatton fans: if Collazo wins, it's because Shane's past his prime, right? No one would pick Collazo over a prime Shane. So how would a Collazo victory over a shot Shane Mosely do anything to bolster Hatton's (gift) decision over Collazo? Not following....

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Go ask Winky mate ;)

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Nice try. Shane was coming off of back-to-back victories looking pretty prime against De La Hoya when he turned down a third to fight Winky. And unlike Collazo, one could certainly argue that Winky could take Shane at any point in Shane's career anyway. My question still stands.

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Aha! But why did he turn down the thrid fight with Dela-Hoya? ;)

Anyway, not meaning to side track, Collazo isn't fighting a shot Mosley.

I know this isn't what the Hatton fans want to hear... But I think it may very well come down to Mosley and how he handled the move back to 147, how his speed has kept up etc.. I think if he is in great shape and serious like he sounds to be, he will win this fight by mid round KO. People forget that Hatton had very little problem hitting Collazo, it was the counter punching that gave him so much trouble... But Shane is alot faster and more powerful than Ricky at welterweight, or at least he should be. If he uses good movement and combinations I don't expect Collazo to last very long. Don't be surprised if he ends up counting lightbulbs.

I am taking Mosely by UD. It will look closer than what the score cards will reflect. I expect Collazo to have a good showing, enough to look good without getting blown out. He will do enough to make it competitive, and like I said Mosely will win the UD (8 to 4 my guess) but it will appear closer than that. Shane will have to much experience and speed for Collazo.

I ended up taking Mosley by UD. I think Collazo will be just good enough to lose competitively. I can't bet against Shane. For some reason, Forrest had his number, and Winky is Winky - bigger, great D, great chin, vicious jab to keep Shane off balance.

Collazo is a nice figher, but Shane is going to pick him apart, little by little. I'm not sure I see a stoppage, unless it's very late. I think Shane KO'd Vargas because he was brawler who walked into punches. Collazo is a little cuter. He won't get hit flush quite as often and I think he'll be able to go to full 12, and he'll probably manage to take 3 or 4 rounds. That's my storry and I'm stickin to it.

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Originally Posted by shza

But seriously, where's the RBR thread for this? Wacko?

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Let's hope that Wacko's grandmother is doing okay and that he is not away because of that.

sugaR shane mosley!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by p4pking

I know this isn't what the Hatton fans want to hear... But I think it may very well come down to Mosley and how he handled the move back to 147, how his speed has kept up etc.. I think if he is in great shape and serious like he sounds to be, he will win this fight by mid round KO. People forget that Hatton had very little problem hitting Collazo, it was the counter punching that gave him so much trouble... But Shane is alot faster and more powerful than Ricky at welterweight, or at least he should be. If he uses good movement and combinations I don't expect Collazo to last very long. Don't be surprised if he ends up counting lightbulbs.

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Lol while i think it will be a closer fight (maybe i am blinded by my faith in hatton ;D) and possibly would consider having a flutter on Collazo, i had to laugh at your conclusion of the fight. I'd click you for that but i already have done today. Maybe tomorrow ;)

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Originally Posted by p4pking

I know this isn't what the Hatton fans want to hear... But I think it may very well come down to Mosley and how he handled the move back to 147, how his speed has kept up etc.. I think if he is in great shape and serious like he sounds to be, he will win this fight by mid round KO. People forget that Hatton had very little problem hitting Collazo, it was the counter punching that gave him so much trouble... But Shane is alot faster and more powerful than Ricky at welterweight, or at least he should be. If he uses good movement and combinations I don't expect Collazo to last very long. Don't be surprised if he ends up counting lightbulbs.

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Lol while i think it will be a closer fight (maybe i am blinded by my faith in hatton ;D) and possibly would consider having a flutter on Collazo, i had to laugh at your conclusion of the fight. I'd click you for that but i already have done today. Maybe tomorrow ;)

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Yea. Hatton fans all seem to hope Collazo will win this one.. But at the same time I don't think anyoen can deny Hatton is not well suited to welterweight and didn't have the punch or workrate he had shown previously when he fought Collazo. Mosley is, that's all.. I think that he really has shaken off some cobwebs since losing to Wright again and returning to welter, but I always thought it was slightly dumb of him to then move up to 154 again for Vargas. I seem to remember he didn't weigh in much over 150 though, so Im just expecting him to look as good as he did against Vargas, which wasn't great, but it'll be enough I think. It's not as if Collazo has been tested like this before, Mosley will be hitting him a lot harder than Hatton was, and Collazo won't be able to put a dent on him Shane has a great chin, he's taken big punches at 154 and stood up to them fine. I think Collazo's cuteness, or defence is slightly overrated, the only thing that stopped Hatton from constantly hitting him was that Collazo could hurt him back with counter shots. If he can't budge Mosley on the inside, I see him crumbling somewhere along the line.

I pick Mosley by late KO. No arguments to support... just a hunch.

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Originally Posted by Jimboogie

No one seems to be talking about this fight too much, yet should prove to be a real boxing treat! 8)

Mosley seems rejuvenated and Collazo knows he's getting better and better. IMO this is a pick-em fight posing many questions that beg to be answered...

Is Mosley really back to his old ways... Is he still fast, explosive and confident?
Is Collazo really the best kept secret of the 147'ers... Can he exhibit and utilise the tough & slick qualities he showed against Hatton?

What does this fight do for boxing @ 147... Indeed what does it do for the winner and loosers career respectively?
Also, what reverberating effect could this fights outcome have on the reputation of past opponents?

At this point, more importantly, who do you think will win this intriguing match-up?

Discuss ;)

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I forgot/didn't think this was on Saturday, good news indeed. It's not a hard one to pick though, and HARDLy a pick em fight you guys. "Sugar" Shane Mosley by UD, fo sure. He'll have some difficulty with Collazo, possibly lose up to 4 rounds, but not anymore than that. Remember this is Shane Mosley fighting Collazo NOT Ricky Hatton fighting Collazo. ;) Big difference.