Re: No One in Good Conscious Can Rate Hatton Higher Than Shane P4P
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And before you respond, no, it has nothing to do with the fact that Shane was more impressive against a common opponent, because I realize styles make fights, and I don't hold that against Ricky, but whatever your definition of p4p is, whether it's what have you done for me lately, or who would beat who hypothetically, Shane beats Ricky in both those criteria areas. Right now at this very moment, there is no rational explanation to have Hatton rated higher than Mosley.
the fact hatton is undefeated and is getting hype nowadays is whats holding him in the p4p ranks, but shane has beaten and fought ten times better oppenent then hatton has, and at 35 just dominated a guy that should of beat hatton just a few months ago.
Name one shane mosley victim who is ten times better than Kostya Tszyu? I agree with everything else. Shane is a helluva fighter but that comment is absurd
prime oscar dela hoya (twice) way better then a old koysta tszyu that had only 3 fights in what 3 years,
shane has only lost to two fighters, winky and forrest.
hatton has only 1 name that stands out, old tszyu...shane has fought and dominated divisions and he move up in weights for the sake of just fighting better oppenents. he fought winky in a higher weight class, unlike hatton, he rather rot at 140 and pick on smaller fighters so he can protect his virginity.
:coolclick: I agree, beating a 35 year old Tyszu who had barely fought in 3 years isn't the same as beating a prime De La Hoya,
or even moving upto 154 and beating a faded Vargas.
Tyszu has spent the last two years tap dancing, does anyone really think he would have been doing that if him and his team felt he still had something to offer?
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You roll your eyes JimBoogie but what had Tyszu done in the last 5 years exactly?
He beat Ben Takie in a 12 round decision, Tackie ALWAYS loses to any name fighter, he lost his next two after Tyszu to Hatton and Mitchell, has subsequently lost to Lazcano and fought to a draw against Contender 'star' Norberto Bravo. Big deal.
Tyszu knocked out Jesse James Leija in 5, again Leija gets knocked out by ALL the big names, De La Hoya 2, Mosely 9, Gatti 5 A Nelson 6, again really not a big deal.
And he beat Sharmba Mitchell in 3 another fighter who always gets knocked out by the big names, Mayweather 6, Williams 5, Stevie Johnstone 9, Leaveander Johnson 8.
The last big win for Tyszu was in 2001 against Zab.
His team have since urged him not to come out of retirement becuase the y believe he's shot.
Beating Tyszu wasn't that big a deal. A good achievement yes, but Tyszu was on the slide, it's fact.
Tackie beat Oliveria
That was an amazing fight. Pretty sure it broke compu box numbers for total punches thrown at any weight :o Took alot out of each guy though, neither of them ever beat a solid fighter again...