Ref throws towel back out!

I've seen it happen before. The one that immediately comes to mind is the second Louis/Schmeling fight. If you can get the video Schmeling's corner throws the towel into the ring and the ref picks it up and throws it out of the ring and it ends up hanging on the ropes.

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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN

This was poor refereeing, this is why boxing sometimes cops a bad rap because of the macho thing.
Earl was never going to win this fight and that was evident from round one.
Imagine if Jay Nady had not stopped the Tszyu v Judah fight.
Could you imagine the damage that would have been done to Judah if it went into a third round!!
Zab Judah owes his life to Jay Nady.

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I wouldn't say that. Zab was knocked down near the end of the 2nd. He was on rubbery legs, but he was aware. It's possible in that 60 seconds he could have recovered and went on to dominate Kostya.

But at the same time I really didn't have a problem with the stoppage.

This happens more regularly than I'd thought at first.

The fight can only be stopped by the ref , doctor or the fighter in most modern rules.

It happened in the Danny Willimas fight recently also.

In the first Abraham Miranda fight.

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Originally Posted by beerjelly

Anyone seen this before? As happened tonight when Graham Eark fought Katsidis, Earl was taking a beating and his corner threw in the towel only for the ref Mickey Vann to throw it back out and let the fight continue. Seconds later Earl knocked Katsidis down. Ive never seen a ref do this before and just wondered if anyone had?
Also I couldnt help thinking what if the worst had happened and Earl was seriously hurt after the incident, how would Mickey Vann have felt then?

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It is more of a question on exactly who threw in the towel? (I did not see the fight) only the head cornerman can throw in the towel so if the second or the cut man did it then that is why the towel was thrown back out.

If it was the head corner man then Graham Earl lost the fight no matter what happened after the towel was tossed back out.

The only other explanation would be the old "Only the ref can stop the fight rule" but I am not sure if that applies to the towel being thrown in.

I may be wrong but that is always how I thought it worked.

Most commisions no longer let you throw in a towel,the corners got to signal to the ref

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Most commisions no longer let you throw in a towel,the corners got to signal to the ref

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Really? Why no more towel?

I thought the towel was the signal lol.

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Originally Posted by Put Em' Up

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Most commisions no longer let you throw in a towel,the corners got to signal to the ref

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Really? Why no more towel?

I thought the towel was the signal lol.

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Its a hazard,if the ref doesnt see it,or the other fighter doesnt see it,theyre going skating

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

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Originally Posted by Put Em' Up

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Most commisions no longer let you throw in a towel,the corners got to signal to the ref

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Really? Why no more towel?

I thought the towel was the signal lol.

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Its a hazard,if the ref doesnt see it,or the other fighter doesnt see it,theyre going skating

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:lolhaha:

That's ridiculous. Health and safety gone mad.

So they decided there's more chance of someone injuring themselves slipping on a towel than a fighter taking unnecessary blows because a corner can't get the refs attention?

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

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Originally Posted by Put Em' Up

Really? Why no more towel?

I thought the towel was the signal lol.

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Its a hazard,if the ref doesnt see it,or the other fighter doesnt see it,theyre going skating

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:lolhaha:

That's ridiculous. Health and safety gone mad.

So they decided there's more chance of someone injuring themselves slipping on a towel than a fighter taking unnecessary blows because a corner can't get the refs attention?

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Most of the time,the ref's got a better view of the fighter anyway. Most of the time its the ref or the ring doctor who pulls the fight long before the corner wanted it stopped

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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN

This was poor refereeing, this is why boxing sometimes cops a bad rap because of the macho thing.
Earl was never going to win this fight and that was evident from round one.
Imagine if Jay Nady had not stopped the Tszyu v Judah fight.
Could you imagine the damage that would have been done to Judah if it went into a third round!!
Zab Judah owes his life to Jay Nady.

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I completely disagree..

Judah's inexperiance and immaturity cost him that fight and if he had of taken a knee he wouldnt have gotten stopped.. Zab did well in the first round and before that tzsyu punch the fight wasnt a white wash.. it was just the legs.. he got up too soon, didnt have his whits about him and it cost him the fight.. i honestly dont even think it was a murderous punch..

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Its a hazard,if the ref doesnt see it,or the other fighter doesnt see it,theyre going skating

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:lolhaha:

That's ridiculous. Health and safety gone mad.

So they decided there's more chance of someone injuring themselves slipping on a towel than a fighter taking unnecessary blows because a corner can't get the refs attention?

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Most of the time,the ref's got a better view of the fighter anyway. Most of the time its the ref or the ring doctor who pulls the fight long before the corner wanted it stopped

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Yeah, of course, but thats not the point is it

You've seen plenty of live fights, right? How many times have you seen the ref slip on a towel thrown in to stop a fight?

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

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Originally Posted by Fenster

:lolhaha:

That's ridiculous. Health and safety gone mad.

So they decided there's more chance of someone injuring themselves slipping on a towel than a fighter taking unnecessary blows because a corner can't get the refs attention?

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Most of the time,the ref's got a better view of the fighter anyway. Most of the time its the ref or the ring doctor who pulls the fight long before the corner wanted it stopped

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Yeah, of course, but thats not the point is it

You've seen plenty of live fights, right? How many times have you seen the ref slip on a towel thrown in to stop a fight?

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By the third round,that towel is soaked,you throw that in in,it creates a wet spot,there are more then one fight on a card

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Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN

Nit-picking! The guy ends up in Hospital you dickhead!!

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I bet if you asked earl though he wouldnt have it changed..

I mean in all fairness.. it turned out fine.. He went to hostpital BUT he went with his pride! And thats a great thing..

and if it werent for mickey vann giving earl a shot to show how man he was mr graham earl would never have gotten to fight amir khan and earnt some nice money :)

So in all fairness.. Graham earl is well, he is living it up now, well deserved.. and mickey vann made the right choice

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Most of the time,the ref's got a better view of the fighter anyway. Most of the time its the ref or the ring doctor who pulls the fight long before the corner wanted it stopped

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Yeah, of course, but thats not the point is it

You've seen plenty of live fights, right? How many times have you seen the ref slip on a towel thrown in to stop a fight?

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By the third round,that towel is soaked,you throw that in in,it creates a wet spot,there are more then one fight on a card

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Relax. This is not an interrogation, Monkey.

I just want to know if you've personally seen a ref deck it by way of towel thrown into ring?

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

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Originally Posted by Put Em' Up

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Most commisions no longer let you throw in a towel,the corners got to signal to the ref

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Really? Why no more towel?

I thought the towel was the signal lol.

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Its a hazard,if the ref doesnt see it,or the other fighter doesnt see it,theyre going skating

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Crazy thing is they are not allowed to jump on the apron to stop it either (or are not supposed to) So exactly how is a corner supposed to stop it mid round if they feel it is the thing to do?

Kind of a catch 22 with the rules. Oh well this is boxing lol