Re: Joe Calzaghe vs NigelBenn who would win?
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Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Miles i think he should have spent his last few years say from 2004 till his retirement fighting the best such as Roy jones,Glenn johnson,sven ottke,Robin reid again,Markus beyer,Antonio tarver fighting around super middle and light heavy making a name worldwide and then finish off against Mikkel kessler.I partly blame frank warren for either not getting the fights or not wanting to get the fights protecting his investment
The Jones fight was never going to happen, was it? Johnson? Calzaghe always injures himself when that is in the offing. Ottke was scared stiff of Calzaghe. Robin Reid was beaten and even with a damaged hand. Think if the hand wasnt damaged! Beyer, was a beltholder true enough. Calzaghe should have fought and beaten him. Tarver was never really an option until quite recently and then Hopkins knocked him out. Calzaghe should fight Kessler, Im in complete agreement there.
Yes, Warren sucks and Its a shame it has petered out like it has. Joe has great ability has had limited opportunity to really test himself.
Re: Joe Calzaghe vs NigelBenn who would win?
I used to be a big fan of Frank Warrens he used to deliver but now he could'nt deliver my newspaper on time. When Matt Skelton fought Danny Williams the first time it was meant to be world title eliminater type thing Danny won then they fought a rematch same again an eliminater now Matt is guna fight Sprott and still no world title Frank is a lieing cock
Re: Joe Calzaghe vs NigelBenn who would win?
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Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Yes but thats because at the time in the states Roy was the attraction nobody knew Joe
OK lesson time;
When calzaghe fought Reid he broke his hand around the half way mark and up untill that point was winning pretty comfatably - BUT Hbo were watching that fight, they wnated to build calzaghe up to fight RJJ, but because of the broken hand it was a very unatractive fight and they lost all interest in him. Fighting Reid again would prove nothing, it wasn't as if it was a close SD where calzaghe fought a fight with both hands, come on now get over it reid lost and a rematch was of no need ot calzaghe.
Gln johnson is a fight calzaghe could of done well with, he was known in the sates and a fight calzaghe wouldn't have to much troulbe winning - but hand injuries cost that fight not to happen sadly.
Ottke never wnated the calzaghe fight. They made him an offer to meet calzaghe IN GERMANY where he had won numerous home town decisions, mitchel, johnson, brewer, Reid we screwed ovee in germany yet he still wudnt take the fight coz he kne whe had no fucking chance.
Roy jones priced him self out a number of times, Bernard hopkins was offerd a career high pay day to meet calzaghe IN THE US after he had beaten Tito, calzaghe had signed his contract, don king and warren had done thie rpart all that was left was for hopkins to sign, but he doubled his asking price at the last minute...
Kessler is the only legit argument IMO people can make about a fight calzaghe should be fighting; im just willing to give him a lil more time, if this manfredo fight pays off and he gets shots at the likes of taylor and wirght or hopkins should he beat wright - i think in the long run people will be saying he made the right choice... until his next apponent is named im content not to jump on any agon and fuel hate for no proven reason.
Re: Joe Calzaghe vs NigelBenn who would win?
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Yes but thats because at the time in the states Roy was the attraction nobody knew Joe
OK lesson time;
When calzaghe fought Reid he broke his hand around the half way mark and up untill that point was winning pretty comfatably - BUT Hbo were watching that fight, they wnated to build calzaghe up to fight RJJ, but because of the broken hand it was a very unatractive fight and they lost all interest in him. Fighting Reid again would prove nothing, it wasn't as if it was a close SD where calzaghe fought a fight with both hands, come on now get over it reid lost and a rematch was of no need ot calzaghe.
Gln johnson is a fight calzaghe could of done well with, he was known in the sates and a fight calzaghe wouldn't have to much troulbe winning - but hand injuries cost that fight not to happen sadly.
Ottke never wnated the calzaghe fight. They made him an offer to meet calzaghe IN GERMANY where he had won numerous home town decisions, mitchel, johnson, brewer, Reid we screwed ovee in germany yet he still wudnt take the fight coz he kne whe had no F****** chance.
Roy jones priced him self out a number of times, Bernard hopkins was offerd a career high pay day to meet calzaghe IN THE US after he had beaten Tito, calzaghe had signed his contract, don king and warren had done thie rpart all that was left was for hopkins to sign, but he doubled his asking price at the last minute...
Kessler is the only legit argument IMO people can make about a fight calzaghe should be fighting; im just willing to give him a lil more time, if this manfredo fight pays off and he gets shots at the likes of taylor and wirght or hopkins should he beat wright - i think in the long run people will be saying he made the right choice... until his next apponent is named im content not to jump on any agon and fuel hate for no proven reason.
Well said preme, :coolclick:
Says it all with facts and to the point...
Re: Joe Calzaghe vs NigelBenn who would win?
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Yes but thats because at the time in the states Roy was the attraction nobody knew Joe
OK lesson time;
When calzaghe fought Reid he broke his hand around the half way mark and up untill that point was winning pretty comfatably - BUT Hbo were watching that fight, they wnated to build calzaghe up to fight RJJ, but because of the broken hand it was a very unatractive fight and they lost all interest in him. Fighting Reid again would prove nothing, it wasn't as if it was a close SD where calzaghe fought a fight with both hands, come on now get over it reid lost and a rematch was of no need ot calzaghe.
Gln johnson is a fight calzaghe could of done well with, he was known in the sates and a fight calzaghe wouldn't have to much troulbe winning - but hand injuries cost that fight not to happen sadly.
Ottke never wnated the calzaghe fight. They made him an offer to meet calzaghe IN GERMANY where he had won numerous home town decisions, mitchel, johnson, brewer, Reid we screwed ovee in germany yet he still wudnt take the fight coz he kne whe had no F****** chance.
Roy jones priced him self out a number of times, Bernard hopkins was offerd a career high pay day to meet calzaghe IN THE US after he had beaten Tito, calzaghe had signed his contract, don king and warren had done thie rpart all that was left was for hopkins to sign, but he doubled his asking price at the last minute...
Kessler is the only legit argument IMO people can make about a fight calzaghe should be fighting; im just willing to give him a lil more time, if this manfredo fight pays off and he gets shots at the likes of taylor and wirght or hopkins should he beat wright - i think in the long run people will be saying he made the right choice... until his next apponent is named im content not to jump on any agon and fuel hate for no proven reason.
Well said preme, :coolclick:
Says it all with facts and to the point...
Can't CC you back untill 24, already used that bad boy for making me laugh with your error ;D lol
Re: Joe Calzaghe vs NigelBenn who would win?
Lets just hope he fights Kessler because time is running out on Joe he is'nt getting any younger
Re: Joe Calzaghe vs NigelBenn who would win?
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by miles
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Yes but thats because at the time in the states Roy was the attraction nobody knew Joe
OK lesson time;
When calzaghe fought Reid he broke his hand around the half way mark and up untill that point was winning pretty comfatably - BUT Hbo were watching that fight, they wnated to build calzaghe up to fight RJJ, but because of the broken hand it was a very unatractive fight and they lost all interest in him. Fighting Reid again would prove nothing, it wasn't as if it was a close SD where calzaghe fought a fight with both hands, come on now get over it reid lost and a rematch was of no need ot calzaghe.
Gln johnson is a fight calzaghe could of done well with, he was known in the sates and a fight calzaghe wouldn't have to much troulbe winning - but hand injuries cost that fight not to happen sadly.
Ottke never wnated the calzaghe fight. They made him an offer to meet calzaghe IN GERMANY where he had won numerous home town decisions, mitchel, johnson, brewer, Reid we screwed ovee in germany yet he still wudnt take the fight coz he kne whe had no F****** chance.
Roy jones priced him self out a number of times, Bernard hopkins was offerd a career high pay day to meet calzaghe IN THE US after he had beaten Tito, calzaghe had signed his contract, don king and warren had done thie rpart all that was left was for hopkins to sign, but he doubled his asking price at the last minute...
Kessler is the only legit argument IMO people can make about a fight calzaghe should be fighting; im just willing to give him a lil more time, if this manfredo fight pays off and he gets shots at the likes of taylor and wirght or hopkins should he beat wright - i think in the long run people will be saying he made the right choice... until his next apponent is named im content not to jump on any agon and fuel hate for no proven reason.
Well said preme, :coolclick:
Says it all with facts and to the point...
Can't CC you back untill 24, already used that bad boy for making me laugh with your error ;D lol
;D, Shsshh! Noone needs to know! :)
Re: Joe Calzaghe vs NigelBenn who would win?
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Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Lets just hope he fights Kessler because time is running out on Joe he is'nt getting any younger
That is very true
Re: Joe Calzaghe vs NigelBenn who would win?
I these guys fought 10 ten times, I think Joe wins by UD 7 times with skill and workrate. The other 3 though, Nigel gets to him, and Joe suffers a humiliating KO defeat.
If the Nigel that got into the ring with the G-Man shows up though, I don't give Joe C much of a chance, even if he shows up like he did for the fight with Lacy.
The one thing I'm sure of, I'd have no problem forking over $50 to see this one on PPV.
