Re: How good is Carl Froch?
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Great wise words Tam from a kid who was 6 when Calzaghe won the title
put back in the dummy and gain some knowledge
why do you say that? being honest in 2 years time JC aint geting any better and i personally can only see Carl gettin better. JC will be 36 and way past it. If you read what i said....i said the longer he leaves it the more chance carl has of winning. I DIDNT SAY HE WOULD LOSE! i would just favour carl better. It will be a lot harder for JC to take on carl in 2 years, than he did now.
and why dont i have any knowledge?
Froch is an arrogant B******,so it will (hopefully) be a grudge fight against Calzaghe or Kessler,I would love to see Froch getting a real bloody beating.Froch only has a big mouth and Calzaghe or Kessler will close it
but being honest everytime he has opened his mouth he has delivered the goods am i wrong? i think he will stop Reid and this will be a shock through the 168 weight class....you'll see ;D
It ain't to hard to deliver the goods with the type of opponents he's faced.
but his oppanents are improving with each fight he is in. you can see he is improving as welll it will all add up and you know that!
Improving? According to him he's there. He's the best out there. What the hell does he need to improve? And the level of opposition hasn't improved by much.
come on.....you can see over the last year he has improved. he is up there and i do rate him in the top 5 at 168. i do think the next fights will build up to bigger ones and i think Carl will do well at 168.
Do you have no faith in him at all???
None whats so ever. But I tell you what. I'll give him credit if continues to improve his competition level. There's plenty of fighters Froch can face that will earn him respect besides the current top 2. Lucian Bute, Denis Inkin, Juergen Braehmer. Jean Paul Mendy,. Robert Stieglitz. Who the fuck are they? There nobodies. Just like Froch. But like Froch. They think they are. They all got nice pretty records. They think there prospects. Let them fight and see who's right. I'll give Froch a hell of of a lot more respect if he fought one of these guys as oppose to facing a shot fighter like Robin Ried.
Yeh i agree with VD there. Fighing Robin Reid means fuck all after what Lacy did to him. Out of the British veterans there is Magee and Reid and he has already knocked Magee out so thats that. Forget domestic and move onto world level. And Vd is correct in saying, if Froch cannot get a fight against any of the top 5, he should fight a prospect from another country. If he proves he's the best prospect out there, nobody will be able to deny him his shot.
But his level of opposition needs to improve dramitically. Dale Westerman and Tony Dodson are hardly gate keepers to world class. That wouldn't be a problem for any other prospect in their 20th fight but Froch is 28 (i think) so he needs to get a move on.
Re: How good is Carl Froch?
Froch has everything. Speed, Power,Granite Jaw, Fitness, Stamina.
He is not fighting Robin Reid. Reid Mouthed off on some radio show what he would do to Froch and then went quiet when offered the fight.
Problem is no one wants to fight The Cobra. Hes never been hurt or tired in his career. Yes he mouths off at times but to be fair has always backed it up in the ring and could knock out Calzaghe or Kessler with either hand.
Manfredo Jr gets a shot and hes nothing but a Gameshow loser who lost to Light Welterweight Alfonzo Gomez.
Yes Calzaghe is fighting someone who has lost to someone same size as Junior Witter. This is a complete Joke.
Everyone is Running Scared. Will end up winning WBC belt from Kessler as mandatory while Calzaghe fights guys smaller than him.
Brian Magee is a good fighter who was due to fight Calzaghe a while back. Froch proper sparked him out.
You dont rate him cos you dont like him. FACT.
Nobody liked Chris Eubank cos of percieved arrogange. Until he beat up Benn. Froch is Number one SMW.
Re: How good is Carl Froch?
Tricky not yet Hes not, but Ive got to say Im warming to Him The kids a good fighter.
Re: How good is Carl Froch?
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Originally Posted by TrickyTree
Froch has everything. Speed, Power,Granite Jaw, Fitness, Stamina.
He is not fighting Robin Reid. Reid Mouthed off on some radio show what he would do to Froch and then went quiet when offered the fight.
Problem is no one wants to fight The Cobra. Hes never been hurt or tired in his career. Yes he mouths off at times but to be fair has always backed it up in the ring and could knock out Calzaghe or Kessler with either hand.
Manfredo Jr gets a shot and hes nothing but a Gameshow loser who lost to Light Welterweight Alfonzo Gomez.
Yes Calzaghe is fighting someone who has lost to someone same size as Junior Witter. This is a complete Joke.
Everyone is Running Scared. Will end up winning WBC belt from Kessler as mandatory while Calzaghe fights guys smaller than him.
Brian Magee is a good fighter who was due to fight Calzaghe a while back. Froch proper sparked him out.
You dont rate him cos you dont like him. FACT.
Nobody liked Chris Eubank cos of percieved arrogange. Until he beat up Benn. Froch is Number one SMW.
Are you Carl Froch? You sound just like him ;D
Re: How good is Carl Froch?
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Originally Posted by TrickyTree
Froch has everything. Speed, Power,Granite Jaw, Fitness, Stamina.
He is not fighting Robin Reid. Reid Mouthed off on some radio show what he would do to Froch and then went quiet when offered the fight.
Problem is no one wants to fight The Cobra. Hes never been hurt or tired in his career. Yes he mouths off at times but to be fair has always backed it up in the ring and could knock out Calzaghe or Kessler with either hand.
Manfredo Jr gets a shot and hes nothing but a Gameshow loser who lost to Light Welterweight Alfonzo Gomez.
Yes Calzaghe is fighting someone who has lost to someone same size as Junior Witter. This is a complete Joke.
Everyone is Running Scared. Will end up winning WBC belt from Kessler as mandatory while Calzaghe fights guys smaller than him.
Brian Magee is a good fighter who was due to fight Calzaghe a while back. Froch proper sparked him out.
You dont rate him cos you dont like him. FACT.
Nobody liked Chris Eubank cos of percieved arrogange. Until he beat up Benn. Froch is Number one SMW.
If Froch really wanted to he could of fought Lirando Andrade to see who the real top prospect was. But he didn't. Much easier to avoid him and than cry nobody wants to fight him.
Re: How good is Carl Froch?
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Great wise words Tam from a kid who was 6 when Calzaghe won the title
put back in the dummy and gain some knowledge
why do you say that? being honest in 2 years time JC aint geting any better and i personally can only see Carl gettin better. JC will be 36 and way past it. If you read what i said....i said the longer he leaves it the more chance carl has of winning. I DIDNT SAY HE WOULD LOSE! i would just favour carl better. It will be a lot harder for JC to take on carl in 2 years, than he did now.
and why dont i have any knowledge?
Froch is an arrogant B******,so it will (hopefully) be a grudge fight against Calzaghe or Kessler,I would love to see Froch getting a real bloody beating.Froch only has a big mouth and Calzaghe or Kessler will close it
but being honest everytime he has opened his mouth he has delivered the goods am i wrong? i think he will stop Reid and this will be a shock through the 168 weight class....you'll see ;D
It ain't to hard to deliver the goods with the type of opponents he's faced.
but his oppanents are improving with each fight he is in. you can see he is improving as welll it will all add up and you know that!
Improving? According to him he's there. He's the best out there. What the hell does he need to improve? And the level of opposition hasn't improved by much.
come on.....you can see over the last year he has improved. he is up there and i do rate him in the top 5 at 168. i do think the next fights will build up to bigger ones and i think Carl will do well at 168.
Do you have no faith in him at all???
None whats so ever. But I tell you what. I'll give him credit if continues to improve his competition level. There's plenty of fighters Froch can face that will earn him respect besides the current top 2. Lucian Bute, Denis Inkin, Juergen Braehmer. Jean Paul Mendy,. Robert Stieglitz. Who the F*** are they? There nobodies. Just like Froch. But like Froch. They think they are. They all got nice pretty records. They think there prospects. Let them fight and see who's right. I'll give Froch a hell of of a lot more respect if he fought one of these guys as oppose to facing a shot fighter like Robin Ried.
Correct me if im wrong here, but hasnt Carl Froch called JC many a time? does this not show he thinks he is ready? He is steeping up in match ups and i feel the fight after Robin Reid will be a higher standard again. I think Carl is working his way up and if the chance to fight JC was on the table do you really think he would say no?
Re: How good is Carl Froch?
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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whens he fighting Reid?
soon i think, there was a thread recently made about it!
I thought that Froch offered Reid the fight, but Reid wanted nothing to do with it.
Froch is a decent fighter, but can be lazy. I think he is one of those fighters who improves with the opponent he is fighting. Unfortunately he needs to fight bigger opposition, but sadly he falls into the category of to much risk, not enough reward, ala Witter. The only way for him to make it up there is to wait it out for a mandatory spot.
Re: How good is Carl Froch?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by TrickyTree
Froch has everything. Speed, Power,Granite Jaw, Fitness, Stamina.
He is not fighting Robin Reid. Reid Mouthed off on some radio show what he would do to Froch and then went quiet when offered the fight.
Problem is no one wants to fight The Cobra. Hes never been hurt or tired in his career. Yes he mouths off at times but to be fair has always backed it up in the ring and could knock out Calzaghe or Kessler with either hand.
Manfredo Jr gets a shot and hes nothing but a Gameshow loser who lost to Light Welterweight Alfonzo Gomez.
Yes Calzaghe is fighting someone who has lost to someone same size as Junior Witter. This is a complete Joke.
Everyone is Running Scared. Will end up winning WBC belt from Kessler as mandatory while Calzaghe fights guys smaller than him.
Brian Magee is a good fighter who was due to fight Calzaghe a while back. Froch proper sparked him out.
You dont rate him cos you dont like him. FACT.
Nobody liked Chris Eubank cos of percieved arrogange. Until he beat up Benn. Froch is Number one SMW.
If Froch really wanted to he could of fought Lirando Andrade to see who the real top prospect was. But he didn't. Much easier to avoid him and than cry nobody wants to fight him.
c'mon VD - he just picks up the phone and agree's a date huh?
Librado has the Golden Boy backing him into the world-title shot, so he aint gonna go for a riskier/less rewarding match-up in Froch is he?
Denis Inkin is a bloody dangerous cat and Lucien Bute is a handful too.
After this next fight, you will have a yard-stick to measure him against the above 2 ;)
Re: How good is Carl Froch?
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Hes overated once he steps up in class he's gonna get his arse kicked
Re: How good is Carl Froch?
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Hes overated once he steps up in class he's gonna get his a*** kicked
Why you think that? why is he overated? whos rated him to say that he is overated? being honest CF is an awesome exciting fighter.
Re: How good is Carl Froch?
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Originally Posted by althetruthhindley
Great wise words Tam from a kid who was 6 when Calzaghe won the title
put back in the dummy and gain some knowledge
idiot ::**
Re: How good is Carl Froch?
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Hes overated once he steps up in class he's gonna get his a*** kicked
Why you think that? why is he overated? whos rated him to say that he is overated? being honest CF is an awesome exciting fighter.
Why is his next opponent 26-7? Did he or didn't he say he was facing a top ranked opponent next? What's up with that? And don't make a fool of yourself by saying Sergey Tatevosyan is a top ranked opponent.
Re: How good is Carl Froch?
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Great wise words Tam from a kid who was 6 when Calzaghe won the title
put back in the dummy and gain some knowledge
You clown. Tam's age should have no bearing on his opinion. Your Basically saying he's too young to know anything about Calzaghe. That's like Saying CutMeMick is young to talk about Sugar Ray Leanord or Smashup is to young to talk about Ali or Bilbo is too young to talk about Marciano.
From his previous posts i can make my own assesment of his knowledge and it is far greater than yours.
Getting back to the topic ;D
I think Froch does have it in him to be a world champion. He has a lot of power and he's awkward with a very good chin. I don't know if he is good enough to beat Calzaghe but i would give him a decent shout against anybody else.......including Kessler.
agreed im 17 and since ive been on this site my knowledge has improved twice as much and im learning more and more everyday i disagree with tams comment aswell but no need to take piss out of his age just because he has different opinion
Re: How good is Carl Froch?
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Great wise words Tam from a kid who was 6 when Calzaghe won the title
put back in the dummy and gain some knowledge
why do you say that? being honest in 2 years time JC aint geting any better and i personally can only see Carl gettin better. JC will be 36 and way past it. If you read what i said....i said the longer he leaves it the more chance carl has of winning. I DIDNT SAY HE WOULD LOSE! i would just favour carl better. It will be a lot harder for JC to take on carl in 2 years, than he did now.
and why dont i have any knowledge?
Maybe cuz your post gives the impression that you don't know S*** about boxing. Read your post again. See how foolish it is.
Being honest why is it foolish? its just the truth when you think about it. You probs dont like Carl thats is why you dont belive he can be a 168 champ! which i think he can.
right froch has horrible defense he leave his hands down all time and calzaghe would murder froch and i see your other post that you said he called out calzaghe ect because he knows calzaghe isnt interested in him at this point in his career and he knows he wont fight him calzaghe has quick hands and alot of workrate and froch leave his hands down all time not good combo against guy like calzaghe froch hasnt beaten any world class opps at moment until he does he is overrated hype machine
Re: How good is Carl Froch?
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Great wise words Tam from a kid who was 6 when Calzaghe won the title
put back in the dummy and gain some knowledge
why do you say that? being honest in 2 years time JC aint geting any better and i personally can only see Carl gettin better. JC will be 36 and way past it. If you read what i said....i said the longer he leaves it the more chance carl has of winning. I DIDNT SAY HE WOULD LOSE! i would just favour carl better. It will be a lot harder for JC to take on carl in 2 years, than he did now.
and why dont i have any knowledge?
Maybe cuz your post gives the impression that you don't know S*** about boxing. Read your post again. See how foolish it is.
Being honest why is it foolish? its just the truth when you think about it. You probs dont like Carl thats is why you dont belive he can be a 168 champ! which i think he can.
right froch has horrible defense he leave his hands down all time and calzaghe would murder froch and i see your other post that you said he called out calzaghe ect because he knows calzaghe isnt interested in him at this point in his career and he knows he wont fight him calzaghe has quick hands and alot of workrate and froch leave his hands down all time not good combo against guy like calzaghe froch hasnt beaten any world class opps at moment until he does he is overrated hype machine
Froch's defense is underratted. His leaving his hands down has nothing to do with a technical flaw, rather it's a deliberate tactic on his part to bait his opponents in. They don't call him the Cobra for nothing!
I really really like Froch, he's hands down the most exciting fighter in Britain right now in my opinion (Khan excluded) The way he fights is exciting and dramatic. He likes to show contempt for his opponents ability to hurt him and that adds drama to his fights.
I think a fight between him and Calzaghe would be awesome. I think Calzaghe could outwork Froch and win a decision but if one of them was going to get knocked out I'd put my money on it not being the Cobra.
He takes a punch, is strong as an ox, has bags of stamina and can take a guy out with one punch.
Probably my favourite British fighter at the moment.
