Re: Who is the greatest flyweight of all time?
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CutMeMick
I know who it ain't......
Pongsaklek hes fighting again some guy whos not even ranked in the top 100.... :-X :(
I sware I can't take it anymore.... This fucker is getting away with that kind of shit!!..... >:mad
Wongjonkam is a good fighter but he's not as great as some people rate him.
During his reigns at flyweight he didn't fight Darchinyan, Montiel, Arce, Donaire, and Narvaez. And he's never even tried to move up in weight. It's sickening.
Who's his next opponent? Some Thai novice making his pro debut? Seems to be the trend with him these days...
Re: Who is the greatest flyweight of all time?
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kidboxin
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I think there are probably four guys in the coversation
Jimmy Wilde-Perhaps the greatest p4p puncher the sport has ever known, The division was more or less created for him. Tiny even for a flyweight. Arguably one of the ten greatest fighters in history.
Pancho Villa-A whirling dervish. Wilde's successor. Defeated Wilde but Wilde was long past it. Dead at 24 with 90+ wins IIRC
Pascual Perez-1950's champ. Ten defenses. Under 5' tall, an attacking machine. Another 80-90 win guy
Miguel Canto-Unlike the other three was not a huge puncher. An excellent boxer and he had something like 14-15 defenses.
In my view the best answer is Wilde. Had Villa lived longer he certainly had a chance to pass him because in the early-mid 1920's the 112's got absolutely loaded with guys like LaBarba and Genaro and Panama Al Brown (how does a 5'11 flyweight grab ya?). Pancho would really have been tested but he could also have rolled up some awfully big wins.
Here's one other thought. By the time Finito Lopez rolled around men were getting weighed in the day before. On a same day weigh-in basis? Finito probably belongs in the discussion. He was taller and longer than anybody I've mentioned except Al Brown.
Nice question BTW!
I'll go with Finito Lopez.
Are you aware Lopez had ZERO flyweight bouts?
Yes but there wasnt a strawweight or junior fly when Wilde was about , Jimmy would have boxed below fly if he had the chance u fuckwit!
Re: Who is the greatest flyweight of all time?
So that makes it ok to rank him as the best flyweight to ever step into a boxing ring? Do you know how silly that sounds?
Lopez is the greatest strawweight of all-time and doesn't deserve to be mentioned alongside the flyweight greats.
Re: Who is the greatest flyweight of all time?
Wilde and its not even close.
Re: Who is the greatest flyweight of all time?
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kidboxin
So that makes it ok to rank him as the best flyweight to ever step into a boxing ring? Do you know how silly that sounds?
Lopez is the greatest strawweight of all-time and doesn't deserve to be mentioned alongside the flyweight greats.
Yeah he does. Withoput day before weigh-ins, I'm not sure ANY of the straweights make 105 or maybe even 108.
Re: Who is the greatest flyweight of all time?
This is the easiest weight division in which to answer this questions - Jimmy Wilde was unquestionably the best that ever lived. His record says so, his opponents said so, the press said so, history said so.
Re: Who is the greatest flyweight of all time?
Easy.
Our very own (ok adopted Mongolian) Shinny Bayaar! ;D
http://www.shinnybayaar.co.uk/images...y_gallery1.jpg
Re: Who is the greatest flyweight of all time?
Jimmy Wilde without a shadow of a doubt. Lopez wasn't a Flyweight so we can't use him as an example. That would be like saying Manny Pacquiao is the best middleweight in the world. Canto was great too and for me second to Wilde!
Re: Who is the greatest flyweight of all time?
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kidboxin
So that makes it ok to rank him as the best flyweight to ever step into a boxing ring? Do you know how silly that sounds?
Lopez is the greatest strawweight of all-time and doesn't deserve to be mentioned alongside the flyweight greats.
Yeah he does. Withoput day before weigh-ins, I'm not sure ANY of the straweights make 105 or maybe even 108.
Lopez never defeated flyweights and his competition at 105-108 was not very impressive. Therefore, I cannot rate him with the flyweights.
Are you even aware that Lopez was often times well under the strawweight limit? He was tiny.
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Jimmy Wilde without a shadow of a doubt. Lopez wasn't a Flyweight so we can't use him as an example. That would be like saying Manny Pacquiao is the best middleweight in the world. Canto was great too and for me second to Wilde!
Good to see someone with sound logic.