Re: Calzaghe damaged his left hand
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It's impossible to beat "great" fighters if they're not willing to face you, ICB ;)
Oh come on Fenster i don't believe that all great fighters were ducking Calzaghe i think it's more to do with that Warren talks alot of bullshit and never actually gets the job done and Calzaghe has never looked to keen either.
Well I wasn't specifically referring to Calzaghe but
What great fighters could/should he have fought then?
Bernard Hopkins
Roy Jones Jr
Clinton Woods
Glen Johnson
Antonio Tarver
Hell there not all great names but certainly would of been better than the other load of rubbish opponents he has been facing lately and there is plenty more but can't think at moment ;)
None of those guys are supermiddles ;)
Re: Calzaghe damaged his left hand
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Fenster
It's impossible to beat "great" fighters if they're not willing to face you, ICB ;)
Oh come on Fenster i don't believe that all great fighters were ducking Calzaghe i think it's more to do with that Warren talks alot of bullshit and never actually gets the job done and Calzaghe has never looked to keen either.
Well I wasn't specifically referring to Calzaghe but
What great fighters could/should he have fought then?
Bernard Hopkins
Roy Jones Jr
Clinton Woods
Glen Johnson
Antonio Tarver
Hell there not all great names but certainly would of been better than the other load of rubbish opponents he has been facing lately and there is plenty more but can't think at moment ;)
None of those guys are supermiddles ;)
Why didn't he move up though he always said he would because its hard to make weight to be honest i think staying at Supermiddleweight was wrong decision yea your be in record books but everyone will know you never fought anyone great so everyone will just think its joke.
Re: Calzaghe damaged his left hand
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Fenster
It's impossible to beat "great" fighters if they're not willing to face you, ICB ;)
Oh come on Fenster i don't believe that all great fighters were ducking Calzaghe i think it's more to do with that Warren talks alot of bullshit and never actually gets the job done and Calzaghe has never looked to keen either.
Well I wasn't specifically referring to Calzaghe but
What great fighters could/should he have fought then?
Bernard Hopkins
Roy Jones Jr
Clinton Woods
Glen Johnson
Antonio Tarver
Hell there not all great names but certainly would of been better than the other load of rubbish opponents he has been facing lately and there is plenty more but can't think at moment ;)
None of those guys are supermiddles ;)
Why didn't he move up though he always said he would because its hard to make weight to be honest i think staying at Supermiddleweight was wrong decision yea your be in record books but everyone will know you never fought anyone great so everyone will just think its joke.
Because of a lack of big fights at supermiddle he planned to move up in 2004. Was inked in to face Glen Johnson but had to pull out through injury. Johnson was rightfully pissed off and went on to fight Jones, instead, and Calzaghe was left in limbo back down at supermiddle untill the Lacy fight came along. You do realise it's only just over a year ago that the TWO BEST SUPERMIDDLES IN THE WORLD faced off. Lacy was meant to be THE MAN.
Incidentally Calzaghe was moving to lightheavy again last year, to face Johnson, but Woods ruined the plans.
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.......jesus, Calzaghe gets injured more than anyone I remember.....and I'm a Vitali Klitschko fan!!!!
At least Vitali earns his injuries!
Oh please!
At least Joe fights through his injuries & doesn't sit it out on a stool against a feather fisted pitty patter of a mini-heavyweight...& I'm a Vitali fan...hell...I'm even a Byrd fan...but an injury is an injury.
This is a prime example of what I stated earlier...nothing is permittable for Joe...but excusable for everyone else. ;)
Re: Calzaghe damaged his left hand
Must have really bad hands as he hardly landed any hard shots at all.
I agree! :)
Re: Calzaghe damaged his left hand
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Fenster
It's impossible to beat "great" fighters if they're not willing to face you, ICB ;)
Oh come on Fenster i don't believe that all great fighters were ducking Calzaghe i think it's more to do with that Warren talks alot of bullshit and never actually gets the job done and Calzaghe has never looked to keen either.
Well I wasn't specifically referring to Calzaghe but
What great fighters could/should he have fought then?
Bernard Hopkins
Roy Jones Jr
Clinton Woods
Glen Johnson
Antonio Tarver
Hell there not all great names but certainly would of been better than the other load of rubbish opponents he has been facing lately and there is plenty more but can't think at moment ;)
None of those guys are supermiddles ;)
Why didn't he move up though he always said he would because its hard to make weight to be honest i think staying at Supermiddleweight was wrong decision yea your be in record books but everyone will know you never fought anyone great so everyone will just think its joke.
To be fair to Calzaghe though Ice he's just done EXACTLY what Bernard Hopkins did before him. Completely dominate a single division, defeating all mandatories and making more successful defenses than virtually anybody else ever. I think the win over Manfredo has just put him above Hopkins for number of defenses now with just the legendary Sven Ottke and Joe Luis above him.
To be fair to Joe, when you have succesfully defended your 168 lb title 20 times it must be hard to decide to give it up and fight at a different weight which he pretty much would have to if he wants to fight the big US names.
I'd imagine now that whatever he says, the thought of beating Joe Luis record of 24 defense must be on his mind.
Inkin, followed by Kessler and Taylor if/when he moves up would leave him needing two more.
Finally Hopkins never really grew any balls until he was 40 and got beat now did he, why should Calzaghe be any different?
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Fenster
It's impossible to beat "great" fighters if they're not willing to face you, ICB ;)
Oh come on Fenster i don't believe that all great fighters were ducking Calzaghe i think it's more to do with that Warren talks alot of bullshit and never actually gets the job done and Calzaghe has never looked to keen either.
Well I wasn't specifically referring to Calzaghe but
What great fighters could/should he have fought then?
Bernard Hopkins
Roy Jones Jr
Clinton Woods
Glen Johnson
Antonio Tarver
Hell there not all great names but certainly would of been better than the other load of rubbish opponents he has been facing lately and there is plenty more but can't think at moment ;)
None of those guys are supermiddles ;)
Why didn't he move up though he always said he would because its hard to make weight to be honest i think staying at Supermiddleweight was wrong decision yea your be in record books but everyone will know you never fought anyone great so everyone will just think its joke.
Calzaghe was left in limbo back down at supermiddle untill the Lacy fight came along. You do realise it's only just over a year ago that the TWO BEST SUPERMIDDLES IN THE WORLD faced off. Lacy was meant to be THE MAN.
You can't keep using Lacy as Calzaghe's scapegoat. Anyone that watched Lacy's career knew he was never the real deal. He never fought any real bangers in the division before fighting Calzaghe. Calzaghe is a professional slap boxer, them bullshit illegal punches are the reason why his hands are always hurt. I was starting to respect him, but his just plain sucks. He is a damn good hustler. He has his country on lock. Calzaghe's last 5 opponents were nothing but hyped up contenders. It always looks good when you beat an undefeated fighter, or 1 loss fighter, but all of them fighters weren't really that good.
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booowhoooo, fight kessler. if he wants to be a great else where besides his home country try fighting someone close to good alteast.
Re: Calzaghe damaged his left hand
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Fenster
It's impossible to beat "great" fighters if they're not willing to face you, ICB ;)
Oh come on Fenster i don't believe that all great fighters were ducking Calzaghe i think it's more to do with that Warren talks alot of bullshit and never actually gets the job done and Calzaghe has never looked to keen either.
Well I wasn't specifically referring to Calzaghe but
What great fighters could/should he have fought then?
Bernard Hopkins
Roy Jones Jr
Clinton Woods
Glen Johnson
Antonio Tarver
Hell there not all great names but certainly would of been better than the other load of rubbish opponents he has been facing lately and there is plenty more but can't think at moment ;)
None of those guys are supermiddles ;)
Why didn't he move up though he always said he would because its hard to make weight to be honest i think staying at Supermiddleweight was wrong decision yea your be in record books but everyone will know you never fought anyone great so everyone will just think its joke.
Calzaghe was left in limbo back down at supermiddle untill the Lacy fight came along. You do realise it's only just over a year ago that the TWO BEST SUPERMIDDLES IN THE WORLD faced off. Lacy was meant to be THE MAN.
You can't keep using Lacy as Calzaghe's scapegoat. Anyone that watched Lacy's career knew he was never the real deal. He never fought any real bangers in the division before fighting Calzaghe. Calzaghe is a professional slap boxer, them bullshit illegal punches are the reason why his hands are always hurt. I was starting to respect him, but his just plain sucks. He is a damn good hustler. He has his country on lock.
Calzaghe's last 5 opponents were nothing but hyped up contenders. It always looks good when you beat an undefeated fighter, or 1 loss fighter, but all of them fighters weren't really that good.
Lacy fooled 95% of the boxing world then. Lacy started FAVOURITE against Calzaghe. Just about every so-called expert picked Lacy!!! Lacy was meant to be the rightful no.1 supermiddle that came to dispose of the pathetic fraud Calzaghe.
Obviously you Kessler lovers KNEW Lacy was useless and Kessler was the rightful no.1.. and maybe if Kessler has the balls he'll come to dispose of the pathetic fraud Calzaghe too.
Whats so impressive about Kesslers last 5 opponents?
Siaca: beaten twice by Byron Mitchell - The same Byron Mitchell that wasn't able to last 6 minutes with Calzaghe.
Mundine: KO'd by Sven Ottke. Beaten by Siaca.
Lucas: Past it veteran - KO'd in his prime by Glenn Catley. Same Glenn Catley that Calzaghe KO'd in Amatuers.
Beyer: Past it veteran - KO'd in his prime by Glenn Catley. Same Glenn Catley that Calzaghe KO'd in Amatuers.
Andrade: Crude, limited, inexperienced, hadn't proved himself world class against anyone.
Re: Calzaghe damaged his left hand
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Not really a surprise, Joe's a great fighter but he has Candy-cane hands
and a Candy Cane heart too... I dont want to hear it anymore STEP IT UP JOE!!!!!!!!!!
That my friend has earned you a CC#496 on me, made me spit my coffee out.... :spit:
:coolclick:#1338 to bad one of this generations great talents is more than content with championing mediocrity and taking the path of least resistence... Meanwhile you got guys from this generation like Delahoya, Barrera, Morales, Mosely, Holyfield, Coralles, Gatti etc. that would fight anyone and brake there balls and make sure they leave their calling card everytime out
CC 497 on me! I'm so sick of the mouth... He's been on record saying he was calling this one and that one out forever... It may be Warren but if Joe really wanted to fight one of these guys HE COULD!
#200 back at you Your right if he really wanted it he can have it... Warren works for him to get the fights
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Not really a surprise, Joe's a great fighter but he has Candy-cane hands
and a Candy Cane heart too... I dont want to hear it anymore STEP IT UP JOE!!!!!!!!!!
That my friend has earned you a CC#496 on me, made me spit my coffee out.... :spit:
:coolclick:#1338 to bad one of this generations great talents is more than content with championing mediocrity and taking the path of least resistence... Meanwhile you got guys from this generation like
Delahoya, Barrera, Morales, Mosely, Holyfield, Coralles, Gatti etc. that would fight anyone and brake there balls and make sure they leave their calling card everytime out
Interesting
Not one single Middle, supermiddle or lightheavy amongst those names ;)
Now, now dont be petty Fenster.... Notice I put etc in there ok how about Jeff Lacy that kid has heart win or lose.. I dont get it Joe could go to the Vatican slap the Pope and put his hat on and people would defend him... I mean when he calls out Michael Jackson for title defense #22 are you guys gonna claim Jacko is a bad mutha with the white glove on?? Hahahaha!!!!
Seriously lets not be petty, but Joe's comp is pure crap plain and simple.. UNDISPUTABLE!!!!!! Seriously nothing to be proud of.. Floyd may be a wanker and take Shite for his record but his record looks like solid gold compared to Joe ;)
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Not really a surprise, Joe's a great fighter but he has Candy-cane hands
and a Candy Cane heart too... I dont want to hear it anymore STEP IT UP JOE!!!!!!!!!!
That my friend has earned you a CC#496 on me, made me spit my coffee out.... :spit:
:coolclick:#1338 to bad one of this generations great talents is more than content with championing mediocrity and taking the path of least resistence... Meanwhile you got guys from this generation like
Delahoya, Barrera, Morales, Mosely, Holyfield, Coralles, Gatti etc. that would fight anyone and brake there balls and make sure they leave their calling card everytime out
Interesting
Not one single Middle, supermiddle or lightheavy amongst those names ;)
Now, now dont be petty Fenster.... Notice I put
etc in there ok how about Jeff Lacy that kid has heart win or lose.. I dont get it Joe could go to the Vatican slap the Pope and put his hat on and people would defend him... I mean when he calls out Michael Jackson for title defense #22 are you guys gonna claim Jacko is a bad mutha with the white glove on?? Hahahaha!!!!
Seriously lets not be petty, but Joe's comp is pure crap plain and simple.. UNDISPUTABLE!!!!!! Seriously nothing to be proud of.. Floyd may be a wanker and take Shite for his record but his record looks like solid gold compared to Joe ;)
The point was you named great fighters but none around Calzaghe's weight class.
And now you name Lacy but then say Calzaghe's comp is pure crap!!!!
WTF!?!? ;D
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http://www.itv-boxing.com/News/Story...050280,00.html
It's time for JC to fight CF now. no joke, it's a lot bigger fight than the Inkin one and i would personally prefer to see it. i really do feel this fight should be made because imo its the number 1 fighter against the number 3 fighter! come on the froch!
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Not really a surprise, Joe's a great fighter but he has Candy-cane hands
and a Candy Cane heart too... I dont want to hear it anymore STEP IT UP JOE!!!!!!!!!!
That my friend has earned you a CC#496 on me, made me spit my coffee out.... :spit:
:coolclick:#1338 to bad one of this generations great talents is more than content with championing mediocrity and taking the path of least resistence... Meanwhile you got guys from this generation like
Delahoya, Barrera, Morales, Mosely, Holyfield, Coralles, Gatti etc. that would fight anyone and brake there balls and make sure they leave their calling card everytime out
Interesting
Not one single Middle, supermiddle or lightheavy amongst those names ;)
Now, now dont be petty Fenster.... Notice I put
etc in there ok how about Jeff Lacy that kid has heart win or lose.. I dont get it Joe could go to the Vatican slap the Pope and put his hat on and people would defend him... I mean when he calls out Michael Jackson for title defense #22 are you guys gonna claim Jacko is a bad mutha with the white glove on?? Hahahaha!!!!
Seriously lets not be petty, but Joe's comp is pure crap plain and simple.. UNDISPUTABLE!!!!!! Seriously nothing to be proud of.. Floyd may be a wanker and take Shite for his record but his record looks like solid gold compared to Joe ;)
The point was you named great fighters but none around Calzaghe's weight class.
And now you name Lacy but then say Calzaghe's comp is pure crap!!!!
WTF!?!? ;D
You know what I mean.... Lacy is my Favorite along with Holyfield and Mayweather jr... That was a virtuoso win for Joe BUT he is making a living and a legacy off of that fight.
I dont get it the whole purpose of fighting American contender turd Manfredo, was to gain popularity and noteriety in the states for some exposure and a big showdown with one of America's finest.... Now we have talk that he will FINALLY face his mandatory challenger Dennis Inkin. SO again Joe supposed momentum starter, only works in reverse
Calzaghe confirms hand fracture
Joe Calzaghe has been struck by his recurring hand problem after confirming that he fractured a bone against Peter Manfredo Jr last Saturday night.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6542147.stm
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